Ranma ½ Ryoga World Tour

[nixofcyzerra]

FWIW, Ranma is usually content minding his own business; he's not an asshole unless someone gives him a reason to be one. The lone exception I can think of is when a potential cure for his curse is involved, he can act self centered...but can you really blame him for that?

Ryoga, and most of the other characters for that matter, go out of their way to showcase (usually towards Ranma) their less endearing tendencies.

2¢

Basically this, although I will add one more interpretation of a manga scene.

If you look at the flashback where Ranma knocked Ryoga into the springs, you'll see 2 things: One: Ryoga dodged Genma, but not Ranma. Of course, he was in mid-air, but I really don't think that a mid-air dodge is beyond his capabilities, even at this point. Two: Ranma wasn't wearing trousers, and almost certainly not underwear either. He apparently, much like his first day at furinkan, lost them.

I've long suspected, and had it as my personal head-canon, that Ryoga could have avoided Ranma as well as Genma were he not too busy ogling Ranma's brand-new lady-parts.

 

[Meinos Kaen]

FWIW, Ranma is usually content minding his own business; he's not an asshole unless someone gives him a reason to be one. The lone exception I can think of is when a potential cure for his curse is involved, he can act self centered...but can you really blame him for that?

Ryoga, and most of the other characters for that matter, go out of their way to showcase (usually towards Ranma) their less endearing tendencies.

2¢

That's my theory, actually. I think that without Ranma around, most of the people in Nerima -well, Kuno family non withstanding- would be sane... Ish. They still have the germs of nutcasing, but it seems like Ranma has a way of getting on people's nerves and/or bring misfortune to them.

 

[FlinFlon]

i don't usually go for anything these days but R/N, but I have thought in the past that this was a good angle for Ryoga stories and congratulations for taking up the challenge.

Your opening setup did its job well enough to catch my eye and interest. Now it comes down to the first tale. Not a horror fan, but still with you so far.

Note: I had a whole list getting into characterization thing but in the end I'll just quote TVTropes: "The core cast numbered more than a dozen persons caught up in a complex web of love, hate, duty, honor, and rivalry — and all of it was played for laughs."

Okay so anyways because of that, I personally give most of the characters the benefit of the doubt when transferring them to a more dramatic/straight setting.

 

[nixofcyzerra]

FWIW, Ranma is usually content minding his own business; he's not an asshole unless someone gives him a reason to be one. The lone exception I can think of is when a potential cure for his curse is involved, he can act self centered...but can you really blame him for that?

Ryoga, and most of the other characters for that matter, go out of their way to showcase (usually towards Ranma) their less endearing tendencies.

2¢

That's my theory, actually. I think that without Ranma around, most of the people in Nerima -well, Kuno family non withstanding- would be sane... Ish. They still have the germs of nutcasing, but it seems like Ranma has a way of getting on people's nerves and/or bring misfortune to them.

...What? I don't even-

The entire male population of furinkan. Crazy samurai-wannabe says they can't date a girl without defeating her. Said girl is a formidable martial artist perfectly capable of kicking their collective asses. So what do they do? Constantly try to defeat her, and have the tar kicked out of them every morning for an extended period of time. At no point do they think this might be a bit morally suspect, or even consider asking out other girls who are probably a bit attention-starved by this point.

The Golden Pair. A Kleptomaniac and a guy who kisses girls against their will. Nuff said.

Gosunkugi. Amateur voodoo practitioner and softcore pornographer who traps people with a tiger, and uses mind-controlling dolls.

Sentaro of the school of Martial Arts Tea Ceremony. Apparently can't ride a horse. When saved by a "girl," instead of thanking her, his response is to drug and kidnap her. Apparently cannot tell a monkey apart from a Miss Tea Ceremony champion. Oh, and willing to murder the person trying to help him (and a monkey) so he can marry another girl he barely knows.

Happosai. Freaking. Happosai.

Ghost Cats looking for brides, guys who intentionally draw cursed paintings, old men who invade people's dreams using the Colonel Sanders effect, Seisun high school cheerleaders, a ghost upset that her underwear wasn't stolen, Phoenix Egg salesmen, morons who won't take life-saving medicine unless kissed by a cute girl, and "love knot" bamboo leaf salesmen who don't mention the dangers.

And that's just the one's that I was confident resided in Nerima. If we extend our radius, you have the seaside antics, like the guy who feel in love after having his head stamped on, and Picolet Chardin, amongst others. There is an abundance of crazy in the Ranma-verse.

 

[GenocideHeart]

To be fair, Happosai could be construed as the origin of the whole series' misery. And sealing him away was one of the few GOOD things Soun and Genma did.

Also, Gosunkugi was largely harmless UNTIL Ranma came on the scene.

And to top it all off, Akane's hostility is partly Ranma's fault for not being honest with her right away and making her feel deceived. I get the feeling she'd have been a lot more sympathetic and understanding if he'd told her ALLLLLLL about the miserable trip to China first, getting the 'I really am a boy cursed to be a girl because my Dad is a goddamn moron' part out of the way. But as it is, she thought he was trying to trick her (justified, in a way), and the whole thing started in the worst way you could imagine.

 

[Lanceavalon]

FWIW, Ranma is usually content minding his own business; he's not an asshole unless someone gives him a reason to be one. The lone exception I can think of is when a potential cure for his curse is involved, he can act self centered...but can you really blame him for that?

Ryoga, and most of the other characters for that matter, go out of their way to showcase (usually towards Ranma) their less endearing tendencies.

2¢

That's my theory, actually. I think that without Ranma around, most of the people in Nerima -well, Kuno family non withstanding- would be sane... Ish. They still have the germs of nutcasing, but it seems like Ranma has a way of getting on people's nerves and/or bring misfortune to them.

Ryoga would just find someone else to blame for all of his problem, anyone besides himself.

 

[Lord Raa]

To be fair, Happosai could be construed as the origin of the whole series' misery. And sealing him away was one of the few GOOD things Soun and Genma did.

Also, Gosunkugi was largely harmless UNTIL Ranma came on the scene.

And to top it all off, Akane's hostility is partly Ranma's fault for not being honest with her right away and making her feel deceived. I get the feeling she'd have been a lot more sympathetic and understanding if he'd told her ALLLLLLL about the miserable trip to China first, getting the 'I really am a boy cursed to be a girl because my Dad is a goddamn moron' part out of the way. But as it is, she thought he was trying to trick her (justified, in a way), and the whole thing started in the worst way you could imagine.

I agree that Akane and Ranma's first encounter could have gone a lot better.

If Ranma have could learned to keep his mouth shut, he would have saved himself a lot of trouble over the course of the series. But then, it wouldn't be Ranma ½, would it?

That said, I feel that at the beginning of the series, the curse is something that Ranma feels a little ashamed of. Do you blurt out everything that you're ashamed of to people you've just met?

 

[GenocideHeart]

To be fair, Happosai could be construed as the origin of the whole series' misery. And sealing him away was one of the few GOOD things Soun and Genma did.

Also, Gosunkugi was largely harmless UNTIL Ranma came on the scene.

And to top it all off, Akane's hostility is partly Ranma's fault for not being honest with her right away and making her feel deceived. I get the feeling she'd have been a lot more sympathetic and understanding if he'd told her ALLLLLLL about the miserable trip to China first, getting the 'I really am a boy cursed to be a girl because my Dad is a goddamn moron' part out of the way. But as it is, she thought he was trying to trick her (justified, in a way), and the whole thing started in the worst way you could imagine.

I agree that Akane and Ranma's first encounter could have gone a lot better.

If Ranma have could learned to keep his mouth shut, he would have saved himself a lot of trouble over the course of the series. But then, it wouldn't be Ranma ½, would it?

That said, I feel that at the beginning of the series, the curse is something that Ranma feels a little ashamed of. Do you blurt out everything that you're ashamed of to people you've just met?

If you're supposed to live with them, best thing to do is swallow your pride and come out clean with it. Not doing so will just cause trust issues down the line.

 

[coconutED]

And when he finally had some time to himself to think it over clearly, he resolved to do just that. (Quote: "Well, they'll find out anyway. Sooner or later. May as well just go out like I am.")

 

[Lanceavalon]

To be fair, Happosai could be construed as the origin of the whole series' misery. And sealing him away was one of the few GOOD things Soun and Genma did.

Also, Gosunkugi was largely harmless UNTIL Ranma came on the scene.

And to top it all off, Akane's hostility is partly Ranma's fault for not being honest with her right away and making her feel deceived. I get the feeling she'd have been a lot more sympathetic and understanding if he'd told her ALLLLLLL about the miserable trip to China first, getting the 'I really am a boy cursed to be a girl because my Dad is a goddamn moron' part out of the way. But as it is, she thought he was trying to trick her (justified, in a way), and the whole thing started in the worst way you could imagine.

I agree that Akane and Ranma's first encounter could have gone a lot better.

If Ranma have could learned to keep his mouth shut, he would have saved himself a lot of trouble over the course of the series. But then, it wouldn't be Ranma ½, would it?

That said, I feel that at the beginning of the series, the curse is something that Ranma feels a little ashamed of. Do you blurt out everything that you're ashamed of to people you've just met?

If you're supposed to live with them, best thing to do is swallow your pride and come out clean with it. Not doing so will just cause trust issues down the line.

Remember he'd just been knocked out and dropped in front of these minutes later. No body is going to be thinking straight in that situation. When he had time to calm down and think he decided on his own to reveal his curse.

 

[GenocideHeart]

To be fair, Happosai could be construed as the origin of the whole series' misery. And sealing him away was one of the few GOOD things Soun and Genma did.

Also, Gosunkugi was largely harmless UNTIL Ranma came on the scene.

And to top it all off, Akane's hostility is partly Ranma's fault for not being honest with her right away and making her feel deceived. I get the feeling she'd have been a lot more sympathetic and understanding if he'd told her ALLLLLLL about the miserable trip to China first, getting the 'I really am a boy cursed to be a girl because my Dad is a goddamn moron' part out of the way. But as it is, she thought he was trying to trick her (justified, in a way), and the whole thing started in the worst way you could imagine.

I agree that Akane and Ranma's first encounter could have gone a lot better.

If Ranma have could learned to keep his mouth shut, he would have saved himself a lot of trouble over the course of the series. But then, it wouldn't be Ranma ½, would it?

That said, I feel that at the beginning of the series, the curse is something that Ranma feels a little ashamed of. Do you blurt out everything that you're ashamed of to people you've just met?

If you're supposed to live with them, best thing to do is swallow your pride and come out clean with it. Not doing so will just cause trust issues down the line.

Remember he'd just been knocked out and dropped in front of these minutes later. No body is going to be thinking straight in that situation. When he had time to calm down and think he decided on his own to reveal his curse.

Considering Genma had no issue revealing it right away, maybe he should've followed suit. If his dishonest pig of a father does it, delaying it yourself only makes you look bad in comparison.

This is just my two cents, anyway.

 

[coconutED]

Considering Genma had no issue revealing it right away, maybe he should've followed suit. If his dishonest pig of a father does it, delaying it yourself only makes you look bad in comparison.

I think you need to re-read the first chapter...Genma doesn't change back until after Ranma is whisked away to spar with Akane. After the spar session, Ranma mopes around alone (Akane had just told him that she's happy he is a girl) for a bit until Kasumi finds him and makes him go take a bath. There's never any indication that Ranma actually knew his father had already revealed himself. And even then, Genma only told Soun (the guy he's known for years) at first and leaves the three daughters in the dark until the formal exposition in chapter 2.

 

[nuclear death frog]

All the negative comments in this thread up to now have been about RYOUGA, not my story! Lawra hasn't criticized my story or my writing. Lanceavalon and NDF either. Their argument was, and I quote their posts:

The problem with this story is that it involves Ryouga, who is a bell-end.

And

Ryoga is not a likable person, far less so the Ranma. So unless this is Ryoga in name few people are going to care what happens to him. Most will wonder, so when does Ranma take the stage?

Hopefully you put more work into your Naruto fics then this.

There. No reference about my actual writing AT. ALL. The argument is Ryoga Sucks=Story Sucks.

That's not negative feedback. That's being a juvenile troll at best.

Yeah, it pretty much was juvenile trolling at best, I admit it. I don't like Ryouga; never have, can't see myself ever doing so. But I couldn't resist making an allusion to similar/identical comments on the old board.

Truth be told, I don't have a particular problem with the first snippet of this, beyond the fact that it's Ryouga-related and that just makes me automatically queasy. Your writing was fine, it's just that the central character sucks. I don't have any problem admitting my bias and I don't know of any further problem with this story's existence; go on and have a blast writing it. I just won't continue reading it. But this shouldn't surprise anybody.

Peace.