Nasuverse Servants

spooky316

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#1
Hmm, just curious here, but how would each of the servants (specifically Archer) fare against the Sailor Senshi?

I suppose we can also use this topic to compare servants to others too, if needed.
 

fitzgerald

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#2
Well it depends on what version of the Sailor Senshi you're talking about as the manga and anime defer greatly in tone and power.

Post!Manga Usagi as Eternal Sailor Moon is to be frank on a whole different power level than anything in the Nasuverse.

Of course that comes with having Galactic level abilities.

Sailor Saturn as well is quite capable of achieving the complete annihilation of Earth/Gaia at her introduction.

But then again if one squints at her in Nasuverse terminology Saturn is in effect a Galactic version of Gaia's Counterguardians. Her job is ensure Cthulhu type monsters don't keep their footholds in this reality.


For story telling purposes however you make them as strong or weak as you wish.


Ciao
 

spooky316

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#3
fitzgerald said:
Well it depends on what version of the Sailor Senshi you're talking about as the manga and anime defer greatly in tone and power.
If necessary, let's say anime senshi, by each season.
 

Muramasa

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#4
You could also go by which version of the servants you choose. The anime version doesn't seem to make servants all that spectacular. Certainly not much more powerful than the senshi during the Beryl arc.

In the visual novel though, these guys are brutal.

First, physical attacks have absolutely no effect against them. Their physical capability is easily close to, if not early DBZ levels and most servants general carry at least one mad H4XX skill.

I really feel sorry for the senshi if they're unfortunate enough to run into say Lancer or Berserker.

They do make good concubines for Gil though. :p
 

ttestagr

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#5
Muramasa said:
You could also go by which version of the servants you choose. The anime version doesn't seem to make servants all that spectacular. Certainly not much more powerful than the senshi during the Beryl arc.

In the visual novel though, these guys are brutal.

First, physical attacks have absolutely no effect against them. Their physical capability is easily close to, if not early DBZ levels and most servants general carry at least one mad H4XX skill.

I really feel sorry for the senshi if they're unfortunate enough to run into say Lancer or Berserker.

They do make good concubines for Gil though. :p
Not quite.

Physical attacks do affect them, if they have magic backing them up. Hell, Kuzuki killed Rider with his bare hands in one of the routes. Sure he was being reinforced by Caster, but you can't say that the Senshi aren't magic.

Not that they have the skill to crush a Servants throat in hand to hand of course.


But what decides this is that most Servants move and attack close to the sound barrier, and I'm unsure if any version of the Senshi can deal with that type of speed blitz and avoid getting mangled. They'd come back to life later of course, but that wouldn't help them then.
 

shout27

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#6
then servants generally have 10/+1, maybe 20/+2 for Berserker, in terms of DnD 3.X Damage Reduction?
 

ttestagr

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#7
I don't play D&D, and have no idea.

Just from the name, I lean toward no. Servants can't be hurt by normal, regular weapons. At all. If you had a bomb that destroyed the planet, it wouldn't touch them, being spirits and all. Magical attacks can and do hurt them, but some also have immunities and resistances to magic under a certain level. Berserker for example, is totally immune to any attack under the rank of A. Saber has a Magic Resistance rank of A, which cancels all sorcery underneath A rank.
 

Muramasa

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#8
I thought it was anything under B rank as far as Berserker goes.
 

ttestagr

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#9
Muramasa said:
I thought it was anything under B rank as far as Berserker goes.
Its A. But you have to remember that the ranking system puts a B+ weapon over a normal A. From Fuyuki:

Parameter Rules
Working under the basis that '1' is considered a normal value:


Rank Unmodified + (X2) ++ (X3) +++ (X4)
A 50 100 150 200
B 40 80 120 160
C 30 60 90 120
D 20 40 60 80
E 10 20 30 40


When a rank is marked with a +, it means that just for one moment, it is able to temporarily increase its damage two-fold, overcoming even a higher ranked weapon. Only a few heroes have + stats. Those with ++ are uber. Those with +++ are considered to be in a class of their own.
Weapons or stats with an EX rank do not fall under these parameter rules. Things that can no longer be categorized by the numbers of the above scale as they lie beyond them.
High thaumaturgy is considered to be at a rank of A. A+ spells are considered to be close to magic.
A C rank Noble Phantasm is the equivalent of an A rank or A+ normal attack (STR).
Ea's maximum damage is 4000, but with backup items in Gilgamesh's vault, damage can be increased even further.
Since even an E rank skill has positive effects, I'd say it's safe to assume that anything with a rank is going to be better than average.
A++ and EX level for Noble Phantasms are said to be close to Divine Spirit level attacks.
Ranks with "minus" (-) modifiers do exist; Kanshou and Bakuya, Archer's majutsu skill, and Rider's divinity. However, what that translates to in numbers is unknown.
Hm, a lot of strange interpretations are going on, but this is the way how I personally see it. For common ability stats, E = expert, D = ace, C = superhuman, B through A = beyond what a human being can accomplish/going to need some god/demonic/dragon/shinpi blood to get these kinds of stats. There are some other theories for this about how back then, in order to even survive people had to be stronger/tougher/faster. Well Bedivere did manage to run way faster than a normal modern human being could so it is possible.
Other than with NPs, + modifiers can be found in Berserker's STR, Rin Saber's LCK, Caster's MGI, Assassin's AGI (probably factoring in Tsubame Gaeshi). The only non-NP stat with ++ modifiers is Black Saber's MGI.
 
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