Its been a while since I've seen Ranma 1/2, so I was hoping someone could tell me if Jusenkyo (Sp?) actually has a spring of drowned man and what submersion in this spring would do. Do the curses combine, or is that just a fanon trope that occassionally pops its head up. Little help would be appreciated.
Ranma ½ Spring of Drowned Man Question
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Mostly fannon trope. The end of the manga has a barrel of the stuff if that helps. Several people fought over it throughout the failed wedding.
Near as I can tell, the spring of the drowned man would cure Ranma. There is no real manga evidence either way tho', aside from the Jusenko guide sending the barrel of the stuff as thanks.
Near as I can tell, the spring of the drowned man would cure Ranma. There is no real manga evidence either way tho', aside from the Jusenko guide sending the barrel of the stuff as thanks.
That's about the size of it, as far as we know.
It is possible for curses to have an effect on only a part of the body (if the water only comes in contact with a portion of the body, as seen during the Spring of Drowned Twins incident), but diving from one spring to another will apparently leave one's cursed form as whatever the last spring they dove into would turn them into. I guess if one dives into a spring that matches whatever their original form is, then their curse is technically cured, because they'll simply change into themselves.
It is possible for curses to have an effect on only a part of the body (if the water only comes in contact with a portion of the body, as seen during the Spring of Drowned Twins incident), but diving from one spring to another will apparently leave one's cursed form as whatever the last spring they dove into would turn them into. I guess if one dives into a spring that matches whatever their original form is, then their curse is technically cured, because they'll simply change into themselves.
Sure I am, I'm writing about those characters, in that world, and addressing the themes and ideas presented in the anime; just because I don't know the play by play of Ranma's fight with Herb or the particulars of say: martial arts tea cermony, doesn't mean its not a Ranma fic. Characterization is what makes a story and a large portion of in depth Ranma 1/2 lore isn't required to get that right.
I'm pretty sure this conversation implied well enough that a Spring of Drowned Man does exist. Otherwise, how would the Jusenkyo guide have sent a whole casket of the water from it to Ranma? Unfortunately, Ranma didn't get to use it (Happosai drank it all, and was apparently unaffected by doing so).
And no, curses don't just combine. It seems that the only way for someone to get a 'mixed' curse would be to take a dip in a spring that had multiple different beings 'imprint' on it at once (and get a form that hybridizes all of the beings that fell in at once, like the Yeti/Ox/Crane/Eel spring that Pantyhose Tarou was cursed by).
The only other result I can think of that might have such an effect would be if the water from multiple springs were mixed together before one dove in. If I recall correctly, the guide simply warned that it was dangerous to do (when Jusenkyo was flooded at the end of the Jusendo arc), but never elaborated on why.
And no, curses don't just combine. It seems that the only way for someone to get a 'mixed' curse would be to take a dip in a spring that had multiple different beings 'imprint' on it at once (and get a form that hybridizes all of the beings that fell in at once, like the Yeti/Ox/Crane/Eel spring that Pantyhose Tarou was cursed by).
The only other result I can think of that might have such an effect would be if the water from multiple springs were mixed together before one dove in. If I recall correctly, the guide simply warned that it was dangerous to do (when Jusenkyo was flooded at the end of the Jusendo arc), but never elaborated on why.
No proof that you can't mix springs like that, Taro's cursed form while a mix to begin with, was combined with a non mixed spring. The spring of drowned twins that Happi got hit with only doubled the bump on his head, not Happi himself. So there is proof right there that even unmixed spring can and will only effect small portions of a person causing a mixed effect.
As I said earlier, it's likely an exposure question. If the correct quantity is exposed than the curse won't mix but will overwrite. But if you don't have enough water then it'll mix.
As I said earlier, it's likely an exposure question. If the correct quantity is exposed than the curse won't mix but will overwrite. But if you don't have enough water then it'll mix.
I dont remember if it is anime/manga or both that have the temporary jusenkyo water but I think it pretty much answers this question. The spring exists and it will cure the cursed person. The affects were temporary but they acted like the real spring in all other respects if I remember right.
In the OVA there is also another man spring that ends up getting destroyed.
Taro and the twins water are an exception and I would say were the result of only partial immersion in the water.
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On another topic we dont see many fics based on the spring of drowned asura. A statue drowning is enough to create a curse so you could theoretically throw any action figure into an uncursed spring and create an army of supermen or something else.
In the OVA there is also another man spring that ends up getting destroyed.
Taro and the twins water are an exception and I would say were the result of only partial immersion in the water.
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On another topic we dont see many fics based on the spring of drowned asura. A statue drowning is enough to create a curse so you could theoretically throw any action figure into an uncursed spring and create an army of supermen or something else.
The only problem with the spring of a drowned man being a cure though is that it is a major plot hole, in the beggining the giude doesn't know of a cure, Cologne doesn't know of a cure, Herb doesn't know of a cure and given how they make thier women some rudementary knowledge about the other springs should be present.
So if herb could have just jumped into the drowned man spring then why didn't he, it would have saved him a lot of trouble
I'm not saying that it's not a cure, regaurdless it doesn't really matter that much. Poeple will write what they want to and interpret things as they want it is fanfiction after all
So if herb could have just jumped into the drowned man spring then why didn't he, it would have saved him a lot of trouble
I'm not saying that it's not a cure, regaurdless it doesn't really matter that much. Poeple will write what they want to and interpret things as they want it is fanfiction after all
Probably exactly what you expect.
When his crotch comes into contact with cold water, he plays 'hide the salami', and not in the fun way.
And to genhoss, remember, almost immediately after Herb fell into the Spring of Drowned Girl, the monkey splashed him with the Chisuiton, locking him in his cursed form. Perhaps something bad would happen if one goes into a spring after their curse has been locked that way?
As for why the Spring of Drowned Man wasn't brought up earlier... it's a bit of a stretch to presume, but maybe the spring was very recently made?
When his crotch comes into contact with cold water, he plays 'hide the salami', and not in the fun way.
And to genhoss, remember, almost immediately after Herb fell into the Spring of Drowned Girl, the monkey splashed him with the Chisuiton, locking him in his cursed form. Perhaps something bad would happen if one goes into a spring after their curse has been locked that way?
As for why the Spring of Drowned Man wasn't brought up earlier... it's a bit of a stretch to presume, but maybe the spring was very recently made?
Wasn't the Spring of Drowned Man lost ? As in, nobody remembered which spring it was ?
Because I'm pretty sure the reason the Phoenix tribe was hunting down the Jusenkyo's guide daughter was because she was in possession of the only document pinpointing its position.
They didn't want the other tribes to know of it because of the use they made of it and as such either hided or destroyed proof of its existence.
It could be said that the Spring of Drowned Man was rediscovered during (or just before) the Saffron Arc.
Because I'm pretty sure the reason the Phoenix tribe was hunting down the Jusenkyo's guide daughter was because she was in possession of the only document pinpointing its position.
They didn't want the other tribes to know of it because of the use they made of it and as such either hided or destroyed proof of its existence.
It could be said that the Spring of Drowned Man was rediscovered during (or just before) the Saffron Arc.
meh, it's a plot hole. If said spring existed in jusenkyo, the very moment someone falls any spring, the guide would tell them, "Come here, customer, jump into this spring, See, no big deal".
Or in the case of the girls, is even easier, since we know where is the "Drowned girl" spring. After all, ranma fell into it.
IMHO, there's only two possibilities. Either it's a cure and the jusenkyo guide, Cologne, the and most of the cast misplace their minds do not realize they could do this (Unlikely, the Jusenkyo guide should be aware of the possibility at the very least)
there is an adverse affect in doing so (Most likely scenario), (mutations, the curse locks, the curse mixes... )
Or in the case of the girls, is even easier, since we know where is the "Drowned girl" spring. After all, ranma fell into it.
IMHO, there's only two possibilities. Either it's a cure and the jusenkyo guide, Cologne, the and most of the cast misplace their minds do not realize they could do this (Unlikely, the Jusenkyo guide should be aware of the possibility at the very least)
there is an adverse affect in doing so (Most likely scenario), (mutations, the curse locks, the curse mixes... )
