SSC Prologue- The Familiar of Zero x-over thingie

Mechatrill

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Also, to address your point about instructions on the side of the Staff of Destruction, said instructions may not be in a language that anyone in Halkeginia knows. For example, Japanese writing is completely foreign, as demonstrated by the grave and last instructions of Siesta's grandfather. While the nationality of the soldier who originally had it was never revealed, it's quite likely that the instructions are in a language no one there understood...
 

marthf1

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Didn't he point out the instructions were partially in image form, or is that not relevant here/for a different weapon/not enough?
 

Eight88

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I posted a link, and from what I can make out, the first image shows how to extend the launcher, the second shows aiming, and the last is firing...I think?

<a href='http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1a/102_0570.JPG' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/comm...1a/102_0570.JPG</a>

Hmm, the instructions would be primarily in English seeing that 30 years ago equals Vietnam conflict and most of them were American inventory. There's also the historical significance and obsolesce of most of the modern gear that doesn't get pointed out...

Anyone want to start a discussion on the subject? :)
 

mgsaintz

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Did launchers in those time have printed instructions on them? I would of thought some countries may have different standards on whether they put instructions on and introduced them in various time.
 

icefire

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FUUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

...I thought it was an update :angry:
 

Eight88

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Yes they did, the launcher in question was used mostly by the US(and Canada I think). The M72 LAW was meant to be disposable, one shot weapon for all personnel and not specialist teams. I'm pretty sure a Dirty Harry movie, The Enforcer(?), showed instructions on the side back when it was made in the 70s...anyway, I am confident that it was the case for 1st Gen M72s in the field.

Edit: I just want to say I admit there's a good chance I am wrong, so if any more knowledgeable people/trained personnel/veterans out there want to correct me, feel free. :p
 

Aegis

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Needs Less Sousuke being considerate more Sousuke blowing shit up and terrorizing teachers........
 

sytang

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ADD Kyuubi Naruto said:
Needs Less Sasuke being considerate more Sasuke blowing shit up and terrorizing teachers........
:blink:
 

Aegis

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It's 3 fucking am, I'm beyond mentally exhausted. I'm sorry for my sins
 

Eight88

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I just thought something...didn't Sousuke have a Soviet upbringing and perhaps a Muslim one? I think I recall him being able to recite the Koran from memory. Would these factors have possible influence in this story?

I wonder what the nobles would think of Communism...hmm...he'd probably just keep that tidbit to himself for no other reason then no one would ask I imagine. On that note, what would his opinions on the feudalistic culture be? Unfavorable? Favorable? Uncaring?
 

Berserkslash

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With him pretty much having grown up in the military, he would probably appreciate the clear cut roles and chain of command, though he wouldn't like any abuse of power.
 

Eight88

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That brings up the question of what military he is functioning in now. I mean there is three "styles" of military life he has. Soviet KGB/Spetznaz. Mujahideen. Generic Western-type Soldier. That might affect his perception as well.

Hmm, what about Mithril? They seem to be a more protect-the-free-world-style military anti-terrorist organization. Would they have values of the protection of innocents and their freedoms or whatever? I do not really remember if they had or did not have mentioned political views. Did they? :huh:
 

Gong

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Eight88 said:
That brings up the question of what military he is functioning in now. I mean there is three "styles" of military life he has. Soviet KGB/Spetznaz. Mujahideen. Generic Western-type Soldier. That might affect his perception as well.

Hmm, what about Mithril? They seem to be a more protect-the-free-world-style military anti-terrorist organization. Would they have values of the protection of innocents and their freedoms or whatever? I do not really remember if they had or did not have mentioned political views. Did they?? :huh:
At the start of the third season, Mithril drops an AS team into Africa to stop atrocities being committed with advanced technology. Hostage rescue and bodyguard work are the missions we see them doing the most of in the series.

If they just wanted to keep Whispered secure, they would have let Kaname's class die in season one and kept her under wraps after faking her death. Instead, they have a long term undercover operation that's meant to give her as normal a life as possible while still keeping her protected.

Protection of the innocent and personal freedom are very important to Mithril.
 

Eight88

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Gong said:
Eight88 said:
That brings up the question of what military he is functioning in now. I mean there is three "styles" of military life he has. Soviet KGB/Spetznaz. Mujahideen. Generic Western-type Soldier. That might affect his perception as well.

Hmm, what about Mithril? They seem to be a more protect-the-free-world-style military anti-terrorist organization. Would they have values of the protection of innocents and their freedoms or whatever? I do not really remember if they had or did not have mentioned political views. Did they?á :huh:
At the start of the third season, Mithril drops an AS team into Africa to stop atrocities being committed with advanced technology. Hostage rescue and bodyguard work are the missions we see them doing the most of in the series.

If they just wanted to keep Whispered secure, they would have let Kaname's class die in season one and kept her under wraps after faking her death. Instead, they have a long term undercover operation that's meant to give her as normal a life as possible while still keeping her protected.

Protection of the innocent and personal freedom are very important to Mithril.
Hmm, then how would that hypothetically factor into Sousuke's perceptions of the FoZ universe? The whole feudalism thing I mean. Not at all, somewhat, very? :huh:

...Probably not at all I think.
 

zeebee1

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Sousuke follows orders. He's not a believer in Mithril's methods. His idea of protecting someone is kidnapping them and locking them in a room surrounded by explosives.
 

PCHeintz72

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Gong said:
Eight88 said:
That brings up the question of what military he is functioning in now. I mean there is three "styles" of military life he has. Soviet KGB/Spetznaz. Mujahideen. Generic Western-type Soldier. That might affect his perception as well.

Hmm, what about Mithril? They seem to be a more protect-the-free-world-style military anti-terrorist organization. Would they have values of the protection of innocents and their freedoms or whatever? I do not really remember if they had or did not have mentioned political views. Did they?á :huh:
At the start of the third season, Mithril drops an AS team into Africa to stop atrocities being committed with advanced technology. Hostage rescue and bodyguard work are the missions we see them doing the most of in the series.

If they just wanted to keep Whispered secure, they would have let Kaname's class die in season one and kept her under wraps after faking her death. Instead, they have a long term undercover operation that's meant to give her as normal a life as possible while still keeping her protected.

Protection of the innocent and personal freedom are very important to Mithril.
I both agree and disagree... however, we do not have the whole picture, at least in the anime, I've never read the books.

Tessa would never allow harm to come to innocents without very strong orders and convincing otherwise, thankfully she is the commander involved in all operations we see.

However, Kaname is a bad example to use, given her fathers position.

Mithril is a mercenary group... they take on contracts (ones they are willing to do), they take on direct threats (Gauron... Almagam, etc...)... but look at all they do that gets them into trouble... such as the one U.S. Sub that they've encountered. Their actions in Hong Kong, etc... How much easier would it have been to inform Kaname she was under surveilance and why... rather than spy on her visually and audibly... to the point they know when she showers and how she wakes up... And lets no go into Wraith's precense and orders. Protecting whispered is fine, but when you cannot even tell your own team what they might be protecting her from and why is a bit too much cloak and dagger to ascribe them as 'the classical guys in white hats'.

I do believe them more morally correct overall than say something like the TSAB and Midchilda from Nanoha.
 

Eight88

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Hmm, then how would that in turn affect Sousuke, PCHeintc72?
 

PCHeintz72

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Eight88 said:
Hmm, then how would that in turn affect Sousuke, PCHeintc72?
Souskae specifically... not really much at all in my opinion. Souskae obviously is working willingly for Mythril... since it is by choice, we must assume he is at least somewhat in line with their ideals... but Souskae while terrific to have around for defense or offense... is not really all the best to look to as someone whom thinks on the bigger picture... I think that is one reason why he is not in charge of their team despite his capabilities and Mau is. It is not just age, but the ability to think outside the box yet invest herself into the assignment, and still follow orders.

While not truly insane by any means... he is unbalanced, and limited to attempting to fit the outside world into his own worldview.

This literal and grounded view is likely at least in part why he had so much issue with the Lamba driver in anime canon, and was not until Kaname got him thinking enotionally and investing a part of himself into the actions he took that he could truly use it.

I can easily see it impeding his acceptance of his own situation, and why he really is not questioning things more but going with the flow. I do not know if that is author intent, but how it comes across to me here.
 
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