Stolen Hearts

Watashiwa

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So Riku opens the Door to Darkness, Kairi loses her heart, and Sora winds up in Traverse Town with the Keyblade. All because Sora got to the play-island last.

Just switch the order of arrival a bit, and you get... this.

Riku opens the Door to Darkness. Later that night the storm hits and Sora loses his heart and falls into Darkness. Riku, horrified at the loss of his friend, collapses, and when the Darkness consumes the world it's Kairi's Light that sees the two of them to Traverse Town.

Riku recovers, and receives the Keyblade a few days after his arrival. But that causes problems. Sora and co. always arrived on new worlds just as their help was needed. In this? Donald and Goofy miss Riku on their first pass through Traverse Town, so things are looking bad for the Disney worlds. Riku's pretty unstable himself--he saw the Darkness that he released into the world devour his best friend in front of him. And the Keyblade is so heavy in his hands...

Kairi for her part is devastated. After all, her crush is gone, she's stuck in Traverse Town, Riku is off on his own, and has gotten so cold recently, shutting himself off from his friends. Plus, there's this Shadow. It's not aggressive at all, even going so far as attacking other, larger Heartless if someone's in danger. Kairi thinks it's the same one--it moves weird, and likes to stick by her Shadow. Plus, it seems to enjoy messing with Riku, who doesn't seem able to destroy it. She's named it "Sora".

And in a world that never was, a new Nobody is making waves. He claims that you don't need a heart to have a conscience, and has defied the Superior's more "practical" directives more than once. But Xemnas has high hopes for Number XIII, Roxas the "Empty Swordsman", and his strange Freelancer Nobodies.

Anyone interested in snippets?

Thanks to Latewave for helping me iron out this bunny.
 

Latewave

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#2
No problem Wata.

This came out pretty good didn't it?

*lightwave?looks for some TFFer's to kick into this thread.
 

cgobyd

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Watashiwa said:
And in a world that never was, a new Nobody is making waves. He claims that you don't need a heart to have a conscience, and has defied the Superior's more "practical" directives more than once. But Xemnas has high hopes for Number XIII, Roxas the "Empty Swordsman", and his strange Freelancer Nobodies.
What would the freelancer Heartless be like?
 

image

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#4
Looks good so far. But I'll have to see the first set of chapters to make an informed opinion about it.

Freelancer Nobodies sound interesting, but Xemnas's behavior seems a bit lenient for something akin to treason in his ranks.

So, Sora shadow is now Riku-light in this verse huh, makes sense.

The Disney worlds consumed by darkness because of Riku, should result in a BSOD moment would be nice touch, especially if Riku realizes that it is essentially his fault the worlds are disappearing faster than they should. How you play with Riku's guilt and subsequent change would make for a lot of drama.

Question will Kairi be able to pull Sora out of the darkness this time and if not what is she going to do now that her hubby to be is now essentially the devil.
 

Watashiwa

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What would the freelancer Heartless be like?
Freelancer Nobodies are look a lot like Dusks. They don't do the dumb little dance though. They have longswords as right hands, and wear a vest-thing and have splints on their legs.

Their ability is interesting. Based on what other Nobodies are around them, the Freelancers gain different powers and their appearances change. Around a Berserker they get tougher and the sword becomes a hammer, and around Dragoons their swords become spears and they start jumping. It's when a Freelancer is paired with more than one type of Nobody, things get really exciting, because they borrow attributes, special abilities and stats from ALL of them.

And when they're around an Organization member... :evil2:


As for Xemnas: Sora was still contacted by the Keyblade in this timeline. He never got to call it because he lost his heart before he got the chance. Xemnas suspects that Sora is special, and only inducts him into the Organization after discovering Sora's ability: to copy other member's attributes. Axel's fire, Zexion's illusions, Lexaeus' earth and so on.

So, Sora shadow is now Riku-light in this verse huh, makes sense.
I'm going to admit I have no idea what you're trying to say here. >.>
 

image

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#6
Okay, Sora is a heartless, right. So he most likely is a shadow type of some sort lesser or greater. The thing of him Riku comes from the fact that Sora is taunting his best friend with his weakness. That is a K1 Riku level dick move. Even at Sora's worst he doesn't do that. That help?
 

Watashiwa

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image said:
Okay, Sora is a heartless, right. So he most likely is a shadow type of some sort lesser or greater. The thing of him Riku comes from the fact that Sora is taunting his best friend with his weakness. That is a K1 Riku level dick move. Even at Sora's worst he doesn't do that. That help?
Nah, he's messing with Riku's head. Stealing his money, tricking Riku into chasing him into a room where Tifa is changing... juvenile stuff like that.
 
#8
I like it! It's a very different take on Kingdom Hearts that nevertheless has some interesting potential. Sora in Anti-Form bopping about would be entertaining, especially if Riku could combine with him to perform some Limits. "Roxas" appearing this early would be fun too, especially when he and Riku actually meet.
 

Watashiwa

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#9
Well, that's the thing. It isn't Roxas from the games, with the bleached hair and amnesia. It's Sora's Nobody.

And Anti-Form won't be around, this is Sora's Heartless. Those of you who pay attention to the Japan-only releases know why that's significant. :lol:
 

Flamewolf

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Watashiwa said:
image said:
Okay, Sora is a heartless, right. So he most likely is a shadow type of some sort lesser or greater. The thing of him Riku comes from the fact that Sora is taunting his best friend with his weakness. That is a K1 Riku level dick move. Even at Sora's worst he doesn't do that. That help?
Nah, he's messing with Riku's head. Stealing his money, tricking Riku into chasing him into a room where Tifa is changing... juvenile stuff like that.
it's all fun and games until kairi gets kidnapped and sora warp digivolves into vanitas to kick everyone's ass to save her
 

Juubi

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I'd always felt that Sora's Heartless would be proportionate to how strong his heart was.

I'd figured at least a Neo Shadow for Sora.

Later in KH1, I was considerably confused to be a Shadow. I was strong, I had just shown that my heart was greater than Riku's. Why, then, was I the sort of thing that I ate alive at the start of the game?
 

Watashiwa

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Juubi said:
I'd always felt that Sora's Heartless would be proportionate to how strong his heart was.

I'd figured at least a Neo Shadow for Sora.

Later in KH1, I was considerably confused to be a Shadow. I was strong, I had just shown that my heart was greater than Riku's. Why, then, was I the sort of thing that I ate alive at the start of the game?
Pureblood Heartless are created out of the Darkness of someone's heart. Sora just had that little Shadow.
 

Juubi

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#14
Anti-form was said to be available because Sora still had darkness in his heart.
 

Flamewolf

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#15
since sora's a cute little shadow and riku's likely to avoid darkness, who's gonna be using that heart keyblade in hollow bastion?
 

zeebee1

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#16
Unless Roxas manifests a Keyblade there are only two possibilities. Well, it's likely that any of the princess can manifest specific keyblades.
 

Belgarion213

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#17
Hmm interesting idea. I do like the Heartless-Sora kind of sticking around Kairi...With him displaying so much actual thought to play pranks on Riku i wonder if he might not eventually actually develop a human form(very eventually etc)

Concerning Nobody-Sora(Roxas) that sounds really interesting (especially the power he has) though you might want to throw some of the conflict with the upper levels about the 'lenience' shown to Sora. (Maybe still a Xion being created in an attempt to see if the potential could be garnered for the Keyblade? Or maybe not...)

Riku dealing with the horror of what he wrought would be an interesting thing as well. Hmm in this you might also want to play out with the council of evil Disney Villians etc and how they react in this new world. With Sora-Shadow protecting Kiari...
 

DrTempo

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#18
My two cents here...(BIRTH BY SLEEP SPOILERS AHOY!!!!!! Highlight to see)
Ven's heart is sleeping in Sora; this is implied as to why Roxas can use the Keyblade and looks like Ven, as he apparently has Ven's heart.
This is a great idea, but that fact I mentioned must be kept in mind.
 

Watashiwa

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#19
:blink:

Wow. Thread came back and I never noticed... Let's see if I can answer some questions/comments.

First, Kairi still has her heart. Thus, no one will stab themself in Hollow Bastion.

Second, Sora's shadow form in KH1 was the darkness inside him. Anti-Form was a special case, where the power of Sora's clothes combined with the imbalance of his heart (Roxas) and his growing doubts and insecurities and stress... yeah.

No human form for Heartless!Sora. Definitely a conscience though. And perhaps even a self-identity.

Vanitas is gone at the end of BBS. Vanitas is as much of a non-entity as Xehanort's Heartle--okay, bad example. How about Sora's--no, wait. He's gone. Let's just say that.

As for Roxas looking like Ven... eh. No. I don't buy the Ven=Roxas! theory. I think it's an incidental thing. Roxas lost his memories because memories stay in the heart, Sora has his memories. Roxas has feelings because Sora is feeling for him.*

Anything else? Or should I just pound out the first snippet already?
*BBS SPOILER: Ven's heart stays with Sora's heart too. After all, it was Sora's heart that connected with his...
 

Juubi

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Could it be possible for Sora to devour the hearts of the evil people, Clayton, Malificent, and all of them. By doing so, could he get stronger and assume a stronger form? I say this because I don't want to see Sora pwned by the first Keybearer they meet.
 

DrTempo

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#21
OK, Watashiwa...Here's something from the BBS Ultimania: Mainly, bits from where KH questions were answered: (again, SPOILER WARNING! Highlight to see, as before)

Q1: Why do Roxas and Ventus look alike?
A: Because inside Sora, which is RoxasÆ body, is VentusÆ heart.

As was shown in the opening to BbS and the ending to Last Episode, Sora and VentusÆ heart are linked (P.646). And so Roxas, who is a part of Sora, was affected by that and looks just like Ventus.

[picture: Little Sora and VentusÆ heart]
Ven: ôCan I become one with your heart again?ö

When he was born into the world, he linked with Ventus filling his fractured heart. Many years later, when Ventus was on the verge of disappearing after his fight with Vanitas, Sora took him into his own heart.
Q3: Is it possible that Roxas has a heart?
A: It is thought that it could be VentusÆ heart.

In KHII FM there were clues to him having a heart, and in Days we saw Roxas crying--proof that he could have a heart. As was said in Q1, he has taken a lot of himself from Ventus. But perhaps when Sora and Roxas were separated, VentusÆ heart stayed in Roxas?

[picture: Roxas crying]

On Day 357, Roxas cries after losing his friend Xion.

[picture: Little Sora and VentusÆ heart]

Sora links with Ventus to help heal him.
Q4: Why can Roxas dual-wield?
A: Because he can use both SoraÆs and VentusÆ keyblades.

Sora can wield two keyblades at once because he has VentusÆ as well as his own. As Roxas is a part of Sora, he also can use two. In Days Roxas awakened his ability to dual wield after fighting Xion. In KHII once Sora absorbs him, he can also dual-wield.

[picture: Roxas and Riku fighting]

Roxas awakens his ability to dual-wield with his will to not forget Xion who also wielded a keyblade.


EDIT: Oh, good point, Watashiwa. Didn't see your spoiler there. But still, this stuff comes from Nomura himself.
 

Watashiwa

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#22
Er. No.

The Ultimania guides are suspect. I recall some issues regarding the Chrono Cross Ultimania guide and how information within it directly contradicted the game. Also note the phrasing of the answers: "Maybe," features a lot. The creators wrote the story and are filling in the holes after the fact, the way fans do.

Besides, I think my explanation makes more sense. :p
 
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