Ranma ½ Takahashi ships Ranma/Nabiki

[FlinFlon]

Just read the first two chapters of Rin-Ne on the Viz website http://therumicworld.com/manga.php and was immediately struck by two things:

1.) He looks exactly like Ranma except for the red hair. Which only underlines the parallel as he could have it from his paternal grandmother.

2.) Constantly asking for payment instantly brings to mind Nabiki. Also the scheme with the old weather box, and the general taking advantage of his powers (to a point anyways).

Perhaps Takahashi-sensei has had second thoughts on the matchup in her old Ranma manga and has resolved to correct that error (if only vicariously) in her new endeavour. ^_^

Eventually, once we learn more of this new setting, inspiration might strike a time or two.


Anyone have similar thoughts? Or do I just need to be told I'm posting in the wrong section? :huh:

 

[yakumo fujii]

All of Takahashi's characters look the same, that's simply her drawing style.

 

[Lawra]

All of Takahashi's characters look the same, that's simply her drawing style.

Indeed, most Takahashi characters all follow the same style with minor deviations in eye/teeth, with the best way to tell them apart being hair style and to a lesser extent clothing.

 

[FlinFlon]

All of Takahashi's characters look the same, that's simply her drawing style.

Indeed, most Takahashi characters all follow the same style with minor deviations in eye/teeth, with the best way to tell them apart being hair style and to a lesser extent clothing.

But to me its more than just the common art style. Something about the way the character is shown as carrying himself just struck me as just like Ranma. Combined with the red hair, I could almost see a pigtail.

But if I'm the only one seeing it (the general Ranma thing, not the pigtail), I might be going :crazy: .

I need to find some more R/N fics I guess. Or get off my lazy ass and write my own. :headbanger:

 

[Lawra]

But to me its more than just the common art style. Something about the way the character is shown as carrying himself just struck me as just like Ranma. Combined with the red hair, I could almost see a pigtail.

But if I'm the only one seeing it (the general Ranma thing, not the pigtail), I might be going :crazy: .

I need to find some more R/N fics I guess. Or get off my lazy ass and write my own. :headbanger:

Takahashi also isn't that creative when she comes to characters.

Ranma/Inuyasha are relatively similar for instance, and there's another character who's also a gender flipped Ranma.

 

[nuclear death frog]

I don't think Rinne asking for money is so much an allusion to Nabiki as an allusion to the figure of Greek myth, Charon, who ferried dead souls across the River Styx to the underworld in return for payment of a gold or silver coin that had to be buried with the body. Rinne's job as shinigami is to "ferry" souls into the wheel of reincarnation.

Even if Rinne is modeled partially on Nabiki, Nabiki herself was partially modeled on Oyuki, the yuki-onna princess of Neptune from Urusei Yatsura, Takahashi's first series.

 

[coconutED]

Takahashi has been recycling her characters throughout her entire career. There are absolutely no implications here regarding lineage.

 

[Ezit Meti]

Yeah, seriously. Read Urusei Yatsura some time. If you haven't, it's really very striking how similar some of the characters are to those from later series.

 

[Sledgehammer]

He really doesn't seem very much like Ranma to me. Too stoic. Actually, he brings to mind Shinnosuke, just a bit, with a touch of Konatsu. And it's pretty clear that the money thing has little to do with greed, so I can't see any connection to Nabiki.

As for Sakura, she reminds me more of Keiko fro Yu Yu Hakusho than just about any of Takahashi's previous female leads.

And to quote Yugi Mutou: 'Quit your eternal bitching, fancy-pants.'

 

[toraneko]

I don't think Rinne asking for money is so much an allusion to Nabiki as an allusion to the figure of Greek myth, Charon, who ferried dead souls across the River Styx to the underworld in return for payment of a gold or silver coin that had to be buried with the body.

Japanese myth has a similar folklore.

The spirits of the dead find their way to the flower-covered field on the banks of the Sanzu no Kawa (River of Three Crossings), typically seven days after their death. Once there, they have three places where they can cross:

1. The bridge. This bridge is guarded by a tollkeeper (myths vary as to the nature of this being) who charges a great deal of money* to pass along the bridge. The bridge, unlike the other two crossings, poses no danger to those who cross the river on it.

2. The ferry. A Shinigami runs a boat to and fro across the river, carrying passengers who can pay the fare of six zeni**. If a passenger cannot pay the fare, he must swim across. If the Shinigami feels he has been cheated, he will throw the swindler overboard.

3. Swim the gap. A spirit who cannot muster the Shinigami's fee (and who is not stupid enough to try to cheat the Shinigami) must attempt to swim across the river. This is exceptionally perilous; the Sanzu no Kawa is infested with horrible, spirit-eating serpents. Most spirits prefer to wander as a lost soul over attempting to cross this way.


* The most frequent interpretation of this is that the "money" carried by the dead is actually a representation of the prayers and goodwill of people who loved the deceased person; one coin equates to one loved one, and the value of the coin increases as the giver's adoration and offerings to the deceased do.

The practice of burying the dead with six copper coins became seen as a symbolic gesture of love - i.e., "sacrifice just this pittance, at least, so that your loved one can reach a peaceful rest - which, in turn, reflects their feelings for the departed.
Essentially, if one is well-loved, then they're "rich in spirit".

** A zeni is an old copper coin equaling 1/4000 of a ryo (about 16.5 grams of gold). They were the lowest denomination of the old mon currency system, and couldn't really buy anything except in large quantities, which goes to show how hated (or anti-social) the ones who have to swim the river were.
Essentially, taking the ferry meant that you weren't extremely beloved by many, but that you weren't such a dick that nobody would spot you 6 cents for cab fare.

The famous Sanada clan took a family crest of 6 zeni (the Rokumonsen) as a symbolic gesture, showing that they had their ferry fee ready and were prepared to die at any time. (Mind you, it was more of a roundabout way of saying "We're fearless!" than actually being prepared for death, but it goes to show the prevalence of the symbolism.)

 

[shinzero01]

Just read the first two chapters of Rin-Ne on the Viz website http://therumicworld.com/manga.php and was immediately struck by two things:

1.) He looks exactly like Ranma except for the red hair. Which only underlines the parallel as he could have it from his paternal grandmother.

2.) Constantly asking for payment instantly brings to mind Nabiki. Also the scheme with the old weather box, and the general taking advantage of his powers (to a point anyways).

Perhaps Takahashi-sensei has had second thoughts on the matchup in her old Ranma manga and has resolved to correct that error (if only vicariously) in her new endeavour. ^_^

Eventually, once we learn more of this new setting, inspiration might strike a time or two.


Anyone have similar thoughts? Or do I just need to be told I'm posting in the wrong section? :huh:

Inuyasha also had a dead ringer for Ranma. Hair and all. Bankotsu. The only difference was a scar and a bigass sword.

 

[Innortal]

Other authors do it as well. Do a pic search for Sherra of Slayers. See how you feel about her.

 

[nuclear death frog]

Inuyasha himself, when he's human (new moon) looks like Ranma as well, but with much longer hair.

 

[toraneko]

Other authors do it as well. Do a pic search for Sherra of Slayers. See how you feel about her.

In her case, it's no coincidence.

It was when Mr. Araizumi first read the manuscript of vol. 9 of the main series. Mr.Araizumi phoned me.
"I'm drawing the illustrations now. Sherra has a braid, so... Well, uh....." He hesitated to say it.
So, I said it clearly.
"Imagine Ranma." *laugh*
Then, Mr.Araizumi said "Ah, it's as I thought." *laugh*

 

[FlinFlon]

Other authors do it as well.? Do a pic search for Sherra of Slayers.? See how you feel about her.

In her case, it's no coincidence.

It was when Mr. Araizumi first read the manuscript of vol. 9 of the main series. Mr.Araizumi phoned me.
"I'm drawing the illustrations now. Sherra has a braid, so... Well, uh....." He hesitated to say it.
So, I said it clearly.
"Imagine Ranma." *laugh*
Then, Mr.Araizumi said "Ah, it's as I thought." *laugh*

I see what you mean about Sherra, she's just Ranma-chan with blue hair.

As for the rest...

Well I'll take my correction ( :spank: ) with the good grace with which it was offered. Though tempted, I won't quote Amos Trask and say that: "You take all the fun out of life." :blue:

This is after all, serious business. :sisi:

Thank you all for responding. And apologies for wasting your valuable writing time.