Harry Potter The Four Houses.

Schema

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#1
The World crafted by Rowling while interesting enough... Has become stale. There have been some amazing reimaginings, but to my knowledge there hasn't been one like this.

Of course not knowing everything, I may be wrong.

The main difference is that the Ministry of Magic does not exist in the same way it does in the stories.... Yet it still exists.

Instead of there being a Minister and the Wizengamot, There are the leaders of the Four Houses.

Lord Gryffindor
Lord Slytherin
Lady Hufflepuff
Lady Ravenclaw

Each of these positions are ceremonial in name... They are not run by the heirs.

Each House operates like their own miniature government, eventually leading to the appointment of a Lord or a Lady.... Traditionally choosing the correct sex. (Occasions in the past have left to Lord Hufflepuff and Ravenclaw, and Lady Slytherin and Gryffindor)

The Slytherins ARE very "Pure-Slytherin" oriented. Muggleborns sorted into Slytherin are not ostracized for their blood status, but it is expected of them to deffer to others with longer Slytherin Lines. Very much making up the highest class, "The Nobles of Slytherin." A few muggleborn have made it to that status, but yet always still in the lower bounds.

The Ravenclaw value Intelligence and Wisdom even more fanatically than in the books. All Knowledge is Useful Knowledge. The biggest difference between Muggleborns and Purebloods are the first year as Muggleborns adjust to the realities of Ravenclaw and together with their classmates learn all they can about their opposing worlds. Interestingly enough, 100% of Ravenclaws pass their A Levels flawlessly. The highest class is "The Ravenclaw Scholars Association" The testing to get into it is grueling and covers subject material of Magical World, Muggle World, and requires a PhD and a Magical mastery to attempt. The last part of the test is similar to the MENSA exams and can not be retaken.

The Hufflepuffs are the same as they are in the books, only difference is the leaders of House Hufflepuff are those who have achieved a high level in their chosen field. Be it in the Ministry, Shop Owner, or Other. Most shop owners on Diagon Ally who are Hufflepuff's qualify. All though it is not explicitly stated who is in the class, unlike the other houses, they as a group are referred to as "The Hufflepuff Workers Union"
 

zerohour

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#2
Interesting, but you need to go more in depth.

-Are they different branches of the same government, or essentially four separate governments sharing territory?

-You seem to have skipped what Gryffindor does.

-What about people born and raised outside of Britain? Do they get sorted upon arrival, are they ostracized, or something else?

-How extreme is the separation of houses? it it primarily ceremonial and limited to the higher levels, is it illegal to socialize outside of your house, or something in between? If you get sorted into a different house than your family, do you get disowned?

-How has this affected the history of magical Britain? Was Voldemort able to rally hate for muggleborns, or was it redirected towards the other houses? Did he even gather power? Don't limit it to just Voldemort, since there are probably long reaches differences caused by having a completely different government.
 

Schema

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zerohour said:
Interesting, but you need to go more in depth.

-Are they different branches of the same government, or essentially four separate governments sharing territory?

-You seem to have skipped what Gryffindor does.

-What about people born and raised outside of Britain? Do they get sorted upon arrival, are they ostracized, or something else?

-How extreme is the separation of houses? it it primarily ceremonial and limited to the higher levels, is it illegal to socialize outside of your house, or something in between? If you get sorted into a different house than your family, do you get disowned?

-How has this affected the history of magical Britain? Was Voldemort able to rally hate for muggleborns, or was it redirected towards the other houses? Did he even gather power? Don't limit it to just Voldemort, since there are probably long reaches differences caused by having a completely different government.
First their is much more depth than what is posted... So much so that everything is going to come a piece at a time when it is finalized mentally.

Gryffindor is absent in the original post since it isn't quite crystal clear how the "role model" class is formed. Right now I have envisioned the house very much like Knights, but more broad based than just battle. Potentially incorporate acts of Charity, ect. Potentially more "Paladins", or "Guardians" Either way simply showing to be courageous to the extreme will not be the defining characteristic... And if it is, the wording will be veiled to insinuate the meaning. Trying to remove a part of the fanon "In grained" suicidal tendencies while instilling some minor "Self sacrificing in a non-lethal way" tendencies.

-How extreme is the separation of houses?? it it primarily ceremonial and limited to the higher levels, is it illegal to socialize outside of your house, or something in between?? If you get sorted into a different house than your family, do you get disowned?
The separation of the houses is a moderate degree above the books. It is not illegal to socialize outside of house lines, but only in love and sometimes family will there be a bond that transcends the house bond. When it gets to the disowning child.... It really depends on the time frame, situation, and family. In current times Old Slytherin Family will disown Children sorted to Gryffindor. Gryffindor families may disown Children sorted into Slytherin.

As for historical differences.... Everything that happens before Dumbledore's birth is the same... Not sure about the in between years but he will lead England's battle against Grindlewald and bring about his death. As a result he is made Lord Gryffindor.

Tom Riddle's snake speaking abilities lend him well in Slytherin allowing him immediately to the upper tears of power. While he still hates muggles personally, there is no sympathy anywhere he looked. What he did find was a sleeping feud between Gryffindor and Slytherin that he could awaken. When he was able to fully claim Slytherin's name as his own and convinced the other players of the game his claim was true he became Lord Slytherin.

Amelia Bones is Lady Hufflepuff, having become the top dog in a position that typically was held by a Gryffindor. DMLE Director is the highest level that is possible to be reached before not being able to climb any higher. As the previous holder passed away it was natural for her to take over the position.

For Ravenclaw toying around with Selena Lovegood as the Head of the Unspeakables, becoming Lady Ravenclaw.... Mostly for the new "Princess Luna" dynamic.
 

Jryu

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#4
The problem I see here is you are trying to shoehorn the Wizarding world as we know it from the books, onto a very different foundation.

What you are suggesting - or at least, how it sounds to me - is implementing a caste system, with 4 castes:

Gryffindor = Military and Law Enforcement.

Hufflepuff = Lower class. A combined Peasantry and Merchant caste.

Ravenclaw = Scholars and researchers. Almost every teacher would have to be this caste. If there is any religious or philosophical profession in the wizarding world, they will also be in this caste.

Slytherin = Nobles. Law makers and judges.

(With a potential 'fifth caste' made up of the 'Undesirables' - Non-humans, half breeds, and foreigners.)

Theoretically, each House has a Lord/Lady of 'equal' standing, that make the ultimate authority of the Wizarding world. Probably with a notable outsider who is supposed to settle any impasses (likely the Crown, who probably haven't been informed of this detail for centuries...)

That's all well and good, actually. I can see it working. But the resulting Wizarding world isn't going to be much at all like the one we see in the books...
 

Lord Raine

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#5
The World crafted by Rowling while interesting enough... Has become stale.
This seems incredibly presumptuous. Don't you mean that Harry Potter fanfiction has become stale?
 

Schema

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#6
Lord Raine said:
The World crafted by Rowling while interesting enough... Has become stale.
This seems incredibly presumptuous. Don't you mean that Harry Potter fanfiction has become stale?
Point.

My personal view on the world has become Stale. As the story is a static and fanfictions integrated variable elements, it is indeed the typical fanfictions that have defaulted to a stale view as the variability elements originally intrinsic to fanfiction converge upon a new static element, "Fan-on and Cliche". As a result the scope of variation must increase to keep the freshness of the source material. It is now apparent looking at it from this view that merging two different fields in the forms of crossovers creates an even higher scope of variation, and increases the freshness of both material. Maybe that is why personally, I have been fond of Crossovers as of late. However looking at mediums where stories aren't static, like Manga and TV the source material is not static, but still flowing into existence. This as expected leads to new variations and the scope of variability can remain low and avoid needing to crossover to maintain the activity level.

In Conclusion, the longer the source material is a finished static the closer the fanfictions written about it must either become increasingly varied in story line from amongst each other, be complete and utter crack, or crossover with a more active source to continue fanfiction following about the source material.




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zeebee1

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#7
What you are proposing is a system of four dictators who all hate each other. I can't work.
 

zerohour

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#8
Lord Raine said:
The World crafted by Rowling while interesting enough... Has become stale.
This seems incredibly presumptuous. Don't you mean that Harry Potter fanfiction has become stale?
<a href='http://z14.invisionfree.com/The_Fanfiction_Forum/index.php?showtopic=19105' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Check it</a>

I'm doing the best I can to make things fresh, but people are so damn lazy! Hell, mandrke even made a program so you don't have to calculate who it is by hand, and they STILL didn't try it out!

A good portion of the staleness is due to the focus on the more developed characters, followed by preferred characters in fanon (Daphne fills the role of unaffiliated Slytherin female for example)

It's like saying history is stale after reading a book on the USA. Regardless of how comprehensive the book it, it still leaves out a lot of things, simply because they haven't been covered.
 
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