Simply because we all knew it was going to happen eventually and I felt like finding out who everyone thought he should be with. I put every pairing that I felt like and nothing more, don't complain if you like some pairing that isn't on there, it wouldn't have fit if I tried to list every female in the Harry Potter-verse, and besides do you really want to see a Harry/Umbridge pairing? I thought not.
Harry Potter The Inevitable Who Should Harry Be With Thread...
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Hrm, well, analysis on each of that list:
Bellatrix Lestrange-Black: Insane, evil and fairly old (I don't recall where, but she was born in 1950s, so she's anywhere from 20-30 years older than Harry. Ew?). Prison also hasn't done much for her appearance. Only times I stomach this is parody fics or when Harry travels back in time to the 70s to attend Hogswarth at same time. Redemption is all good and all, but still, eww on the age.
Fluer Delacour: Pretty and within Harry's age, but attends a French school, so unless she moves closer, not a great relationship. Then again, I vaguely recall that she had plans to move to England after she graduated. An occassional fun choice, but should be noted she only warmed up to Harry because he saved her sister during Triwizard tournament. Before that he was "too young to be competing". Meaning it only works on fics deviating after book 4, unless some similar respect is grown somehow.
Gabrielle Delacour: She's what, 8, when she shows up (where Harry is 14-15ish)? A little too pedophilic, though might be good given a future fic where she's grown up some. Suffers the problem I've got with Ginny in that she sees a hero (aka the-boy-who-lived) and not Harry when she sees him.
Ginny Weasley: Ugh. I hate fics with this pairing. Besides the fact that it's a big puppy love crush on the-boy-who-lived and not Harry, as the series progresses their interaction isn't altogether -that- big, and the fact that the books themselves led towards this matchup in a big sudden "I love you" right out of nowhere...ugh. While not altogether a bad character, I'm soured on this pairing. Almost nobody ever has them go through the process of a damn courtship when pairing them, even in a romance fic. It's just wham-bam, there's attraction and then...they're together. Yeesh.
Hermione Granger: Sometimes suffers from the lack of development Ginny romance-fics get, but is one of my favorite choices. She's known Harry -as- Harry, not a hero. She's fairly grounded in reality and knows what Harry is going through as a muggle where he's a muggle-raised halfblood. She's not bad looking either, same age, interacts with him regularly, and knows his good -and- bad sides. And she still likes him anyway.
Lily Potter-Evans: Incestous Necrophilia. 'Nuff said.
Luna Lovegood: She's the anti-Hermione, but she's a fun character. Within a reasonable age difference, is smart and -very- observant, but also someone who's perfectly willing to trust in you. She's definitely a dependable person, and someone I like seeing paired with Harry.
Minerva McGonagall: Give her a youth potion, and we'll talk about it. Don't see it happening any time soon though.
Nymphadora Tonks: A kooky choice, she's kinda older than Harry, but still fairly within a reasonable age where it's not like she's robbing the cradle. Probably a good relationship could develop if Harry became an auror and a co-worker, but otherwise I don't see it happening too much. She seems to have a thing for older men though, not younger.
Narcissa Malfoy-Black: She's a married woman, and again, something like 20 years older than Harry. Ew. Time travel's the only way Harry should be getting this bird.
Pansy Parkinson: Not a bad looking girl, but fairly bitchy and she's into pretty boys like Draco. So long as Harry's a lion and not a snake, this isn't gonna happen. A possibility for those Harry in Slytherin fics.
Rowena Ravenclaw: Necrophilia! *cough* Well, time travel can solve this again, but really, isn't this a bit much?
Hrm...that aside, if I had to pick someone on looks/age first (since you say who should Harry be with, not who would you like to see Harry with, so lets discount time travel and look purely at book divergence and continuation fics), then from your list you have Hermione, Luna, Tonks (go, go, metamorphmagus!), Fleur, Ginny or Pansy.
Pansy gets crossed out for being a Slytherin, Harry wouldn't have anything to do with her if he can help it after book 1. Tonks and Fleur just don't get enough of a chance to interact with him unless it's a post-graduation story for Harry. Still, their chances aren't quite as high, especially depending on which book you diverge (post 5, you've got Tonks/Remus and Fleur/Bill to deal with).
That leaves Hermione, Luna and Ginny. Assuming you ignore that crapfest that is the Half Blood Prince, any of them really is a good choice, though Hermione should have had the best shot at being with him on any divergence prior to that. Otherwise, you're kinda stuck with Ginny unless you somehow off her. Preferably with large doses of Cruciatus (can you tell the LUV I've got for her?).
So since I just don't wanna pick Ginny, I'll go with Hermione.
Meh, I'd rather have seen names like the Patil twins, Hannah Abbott, Cho Chang, Katie Bell, or Susan Bones (to name a few names), rather than Minerva, Rowena, Bellatrix, Narcissa and Lily. Those characters are either too old or too dead to count in a "Who should Harry be with?" poll.
Now, in a "Who do you -like- to read fanfiction of Harry being with?" poll...that's another story.
Bellatrix Lestrange-Black: Insane, evil and fairly old (I don't recall where, but she was born in 1950s, so she's anywhere from 20-30 years older than Harry. Ew?). Prison also hasn't done much for her appearance. Only times I stomach this is parody fics or when Harry travels back in time to the 70s to attend Hogswarth at same time. Redemption is all good and all, but still, eww on the age.
Fluer Delacour: Pretty and within Harry's age, but attends a French school, so unless she moves closer, not a great relationship. Then again, I vaguely recall that she had plans to move to England after she graduated. An occassional fun choice, but should be noted she only warmed up to Harry because he saved her sister during Triwizard tournament. Before that he was "too young to be competing". Meaning it only works on fics deviating after book 4, unless some similar respect is grown somehow.
Gabrielle Delacour: She's what, 8, when she shows up (where Harry is 14-15ish)? A little too pedophilic, though might be good given a future fic where she's grown up some. Suffers the problem I've got with Ginny in that she sees a hero (aka the-boy-who-lived) and not Harry when she sees him.
Ginny Weasley: Ugh. I hate fics with this pairing. Besides the fact that it's a big puppy love crush on the-boy-who-lived and not Harry, as the series progresses their interaction isn't altogether -that- big, and the fact that the books themselves led towards this matchup in a big sudden "I love you" right out of nowhere...ugh. While not altogether a bad character, I'm soured on this pairing. Almost nobody ever has them go through the process of a damn courtship when pairing them, even in a romance fic. It's just wham-bam, there's attraction and then...they're together. Yeesh.
Hermione Granger: Sometimes suffers from the lack of development Ginny romance-fics get, but is one of my favorite choices. She's known Harry -as- Harry, not a hero. She's fairly grounded in reality and knows what Harry is going through as a muggle where he's a muggle-raised halfblood. She's not bad looking either, same age, interacts with him regularly, and knows his good -and- bad sides. And she still likes him anyway.
Lily Potter-Evans: Incestous Necrophilia. 'Nuff said.
Luna Lovegood: She's the anti-Hermione, but she's a fun character. Within a reasonable age difference, is smart and -very- observant, but also someone who's perfectly willing to trust in you. She's definitely a dependable person, and someone I like seeing paired with Harry.
Minerva McGonagall: Give her a youth potion, and we'll talk about it. Don't see it happening any time soon though.
Nymphadora Tonks: A kooky choice, she's kinda older than Harry, but still fairly within a reasonable age where it's not like she's robbing the cradle. Probably a good relationship could develop if Harry became an auror and a co-worker, but otherwise I don't see it happening too much. She seems to have a thing for older men though, not younger.
Narcissa Malfoy-Black: She's a married woman, and again, something like 20 years older than Harry. Ew. Time travel's the only way Harry should be getting this bird.
Pansy Parkinson: Not a bad looking girl, but fairly bitchy and she's into pretty boys like Draco. So long as Harry's a lion and not a snake, this isn't gonna happen. A possibility for those Harry in Slytherin fics.
Rowena Ravenclaw: Necrophilia! *cough* Well, time travel can solve this again, but really, isn't this a bit much?
Hrm...that aside, if I had to pick someone on looks/age first (since you say who should Harry be with, not who would you like to see Harry with, so lets discount time travel and look purely at book divergence and continuation fics), then from your list you have Hermione, Luna, Tonks (go, go, metamorphmagus!), Fleur, Ginny or Pansy.
Pansy gets crossed out for being a Slytherin, Harry wouldn't have anything to do with her if he can help it after book 1. Tonks and Fleur just don't get enough of a chance to interact with him unless it's a post-graduation story for Harry. Still, their chances aren't quite as high, especially depending on which book you diverge (post 5, you've got Tonks/Remus and Fleur/Bill to deal with).
That leaves Hermione, Luna and Ginny. Assuming you ignore that crapfest that is the Half Blood Prince, any of them really is a good choice, though Hermione should have had the best shot at being with him on any divergence prior to that. Otherwise, you're kinda stuck with Ginny unless you somehow off her. Preferably with large doses of Cruciatus (can you tell the LUV I've got for her?).
So since I just don't wanna pick Ginny, I'll go with Hermione.
Meh, I'd rather have seen names like the Patil twins, Hannah Abbott, Cho Chang, Katie Bell, or Susan Bones (to name a few names), rather than Minerva, Rowena, Bellatrix, Narcissa and Lily. Those characters are either too old or too dead to count in a "Who should Harry be with?" poll.
Now, in a "Who do you -like- to read fanfiction of Harry being with?" poll...that's another story.
Yah, as far as straight canon pairings I'd definitely have to go with Hermione as she is one of my favorite girls of HP, next to Luna of course. And those other Hogwarts girls you mentioned were initially on the list but well, I just didn't feel like including them. Also this should be taken more as a 'who do you want Harry to be with' poll. When I say who 'should' he be with I mean in your personal (and biased) opinion, not having anything to do with the actual possibility of said pairing actually happening. And don't worry, you're not alone, I hate Ginny with a burning passion as well, as you can probably see from some of my earlier posts.
i'm a harry/gabrielle fan for some strange reason.
and this was before jeconais started hope which would have to be the best of the genre.
i think the explanation he put in his drabble the ghost of albus dumbledore explains it pretty well. to parahase, in canon we see suggested remus/tonks and bill/fleur and by the time harry is likely to start thinking about settling down (mid 20's not 16-17)
the age difference will be likely irelevent.
jay
and this was before jeconais started hope which would have to be the best of the genre.
i think the explanation he put in his drabble the ghost of albus dumbledore explains it pretty well. to parahase, in canon we see suggested remus/tonks and bill/fleur and by the time harry is likely to start thinking about settling down (mid 20's not 16-17)
the age difference will be likely irelevent.
jay
Her father runs a magazine, one that can't get many too many respectable/profitable adverts to publish, so she's probably rather well off as the Quibbler hasn't been forced outta business yet.
So, she's not crazy. She's eccentric.
I like all of the ladies mentioned, lots of potential inherent in every single one, so personally I've got no really distinct emotional preference for any one girl.
Even if my older-woman-with-younger-man-fetich is trying to tell me otherwise.
The one I think would have the best shot at a lasting mutually benificial relationship with Harry in the long run, is Hermione. Take your pick of reasons, there's plenty to go around.
The one I think would benefit Harry the most in the short run, is Tonks. I think exactly what he needs in this point in time. ( I haven't read HBP yet. Spending so much of my time reading/writing fanfics, that I rarely take the time to read regular books these days... ) It might not be all that good a thing for either him or her in the long run, but I think she's just the thing he needs and having him to focus on for the moment would probably be good for her too.
So, she's not crazy. She's eccentric.
I like all of the ladies mentioned, lots of potential inherent in every single one, so personally I've got no really distinct emotional preference for any one girl.
Even if my older-woman-with-younger-man-fetich is trying to tell me otherwise.
The one I think would have the best shot at a lasting mutually benificial relationship with Harry in the long run, is Hermione. Take your pick of reasons, there's plenty to go around.
The one I think would benefit Harry the most in the short run, is Tonks. I think exactly what he needs in this point in time. ( I haven't read HBP yet. Spending so much of my time reading/writing fanfics, that I rarely take the time to read regular books these days... ) It might not be all that good a thing for either him or her in the long run, but I think she's just the thing he needs and having him to focus on for the moment would probably be good for her too.
So, she's not crazy. She's eccentric.
On the subject of Half-Blood Prince, I really think that HBP bombed all my expectations for any good canon relationships. Making a good romance writer Rowling does not.
So I've heard.
Repeatedly.
Which may be a contributing factor to why I haven't taken the time to read HBP yet.
I've even considered not reading it at all, ever. I'm in no particular hurry, so I think I'll wait for the next book and see what people think of that. If that's ok, I'll probably read HBP and then the new one. If people think the new one is crap as well, I'll probably stop at Order and be happy with that.
Repeatedly.
Which may be a contributing factor to why I haven't taken the time to read HBP yet.
I've even considered not reading it at all, ever. I'm in no particular hurry, so I think I'll wait for the next book and see what people think of that. If that's ok, I'll probably read HBP and then the new one. If people think the new one is crap as well, I'll probably stop at Order and be happy with that.
Yah I woudn't suggest reading it just because I've seen HBP claim too many good authors and while I doubt it could stop you entirely it would probably relegate all your HP fics to the 'haven't touched it in forever' folder in your computer which I DO NOT want to happen. To me the sixth book seemed as though JKR read through a bunch of fanfics and took all of the most popular cliches and stuck them all in one book, every single ship in HBP was a complete sell-out and didn't really have any reason for being there, the characters all of a sudden just decided to fall in love with each other. Personally I think Harry and Ginny were put together in that book just because I'm pretty sure that to JKR Ginny is her, in a sense, and thus she wants 'herself' to be with Harry. We have to remember that JKR is susceptible to all the same faults and temptations when writing that we are, such as to put a character based off ourselves together with the main character. Do you understand my emphasis?
No. She outright stated that Hermione was based off of her as a child, only more exaggerated... and I can believe it.
Worst. Mary Sue. Ever. :no:
I've hated the idea of Harry/Hermione from day one. And for the record, I hate Harry/Ginny, too.
Ginny, however, has been 'set up' to be with Harry since the beginning. It was pretty much obvious, unless you actually wanted him to be with Hermione. HBP just slapped us in the face with it... repeatedly... with a rotten trout. :headbanger: :headbanger: :headbanger:
Personally, I wish she'd gone the less stereotyped ("Shy girl gets guy she can't even say two words to, hooray for loser girls everywhere!" <_<) route and stuck him with someone interesting. Tonks. Susan. Hannah. Hell, Pansy.
Pretty much anyone except Hermione, Cho, and Ginny... in that order.
And for all those people who want to give the Potter men a 'thing' for women of a certain type, Pansy is a good choice. You want Potters to have a fetish for a certain trait about a woman? Frag that 'always chooses a redhead' crap... make them always fall for a girl with a flower name!
What... annoyed with cliches? Me? Naaaaaaaw! :headbanger: :headbanger: :headbanger:
Worst. Mary Sue. Ever. :no:
I've hated the idea of Harry/Hermione from day one. And for the record, I hate Harry/Ginny, too.
Ginny, however, has been 'set up' to be with Harry since the beginning. It was pretty much obvious, unless you actually wanted him to be with Hermione. HBP just slapped us in the face with it... repeatedly... with a rotten trout. :headbanger: :headbanger: :headbanger:
Personally, I wish she'd gone the less stereotyped ("Shy girl gets guy she can't even say two words to, hooray for loser girls everywhere!" <_<) route and stuck him with someone interesting. Tonks. Susan. Hannah. Hell, Pansy.
Pretty much anyone except Hermione, Cho, and Ginny... in that order.
And for all those people who want to give the Potter men a 'thing' for women of a certain type, Pansy is a good choice. You want Potters to have a fetish for a certain trait about a woman? Frag that 'always chooses a redhead' crap... make them always fall for a girl with a flower name!
What... annoyed with cliches? Me? Naaaaaaaw! :headbanger: :headbanger: :headbanger:
No, I don't think that Harry/Hermione could work simply because they would have to see each other beyond their current relationship and then be attracted to each other which I highly doubt would happen.
While Harry/Tonks is interesting it just wouldn't work as they have no real connection to one another.
Personally out of the choices there I would have to go with Harry/Fleur as it gives possiblities. I mean by the end of the second task they both see that there is more to each other then their first impressions, and I can more see Harry with a need to be with an older woman or at the least someone at his age level. This way there is a better chance of him being in a more grownup relationship. WHile Harry may have had no luck with relationships, as a whole he is more mature and has grown up more then most the people his age.
While Harry/Tonks is interesting it just wouldn't work as they have no real connection to one another.
Personally out of the choices there I would have to go with Harry/Fleur as it gives possiblities. I mean by the end of the second task they both see that there is more to each other then their first impressions, and I can more see Harry with a need to be with an older woman or at the least someone at his age level. This way there is a better chance of him being in a more grownup relationship. WHile Harry may have had no luck with relationships, as a whole he is more mature and has grown up more then most the people his age.
Harry/Fleur wouldn't work for the simple reason that Harry isn't exactly the type to go out of his way to befriend people, unless they make the first effort or they're in trouble. He's not shy, really, but he isn't exactly outgoing, either.
Fleur being from another country (which she was going back to, after the tournament) coupled with their lack of opportunities to interact within Hogwarts... I just can't see it happening without her being the one to make the effort to create a friendship. Once a friendship is created... maybe.
With Tonks, there is almost a month straight where he has plenty of opportunity to interact with her, before his Hogwarts fifth year starts. A month is a decent amount of time to create a friendship (especially considering her profession and talents, both of which Harry is interested in), where they might maintain contact after the term starts.
Plus there are hints that Harry may be a metamorphmagus, which gives them incentive to spend time around each other. Whether he actually is, or is not isn't really relevant. The possibility that he is would be more than enough reason to stick them around each other for a while.
Fleur being from another country (which she was going back to, after the tournament) coupled with their lack of opportunities to interact within Hogwarts... I just can't see it happening without her being the one to make the effort to create a friendship. Once a friendship is created... maybe.
With Tonks, there is almost a month straight where he has plenty of opportunity to interact with her, before his Hogwarts fifth year starts. A month is a decent amount of time to create a friendship (especially considering her profession and talents, both of which Harry is interested in), where they might maintain contact after the term starts.
Plus there are hints that Harry may be a metamorphmagus, which gives them incentive to spend time around each other. Whether he actually is, or is not isn't really relevant. The possibility that he is would be more than enough reason to stick them around each other for a while.
JKR shot down the metamoph Harry idea hard and completely. Apparantly he was just using a hair growing charm on himself and is a common thing for kids.
More importantly, Harry didn't have much interaction with Tonks during that summer. I'm not about to go reread the book but I don't think Tonks was living at Grimmauld and when she was there during meetings Molly kept the kids away. Plus, outside of meetings the kids were kept busy cleaning the place and didn't interact all that much with the adults then either.
More importantly, Harry didn't have much interaction with Tonks during that summer. I'm not about to go reread the book but I don't think Tonks was living at Grimmauld and when she was there during meetings Molly kept the kids away. Plus, outside of meetings the kids were kept busy cleaning the place and didn't interact all that much with the adults then either.
If you want to argue on the basis of canon, then the answer is Ginny. Canon has it that way, so the pairing is already set. End of story.
To an extent, I maintain a stance I have from the very beginning. If it isn't explained in one of the books, then it doesn't count as canon. If you want to accept it as canon... feel free. But don't expect me to agree with you until it is said, in the books, that Harry is not a metamorphmagus.
And as I said in my previous post...
It's the possibility that matters. It gives Harry and Tonks a reason to spend time with each other. If he is, great... if not, oh well.
Probably not, but like I said... if we're going to adhere strictly to canon, then you're essentially saying Ginny is it for him.
Hence the metamorphmagus bit.
But I also don't think the book accounted for every minute of every day, so the possibility of them having spent time together outside of Order meetings isn't to be ruled out even in canon.
To an extent, I maintain a stance I have from the very beginning. If it isn't explained in one of the books, then it doesn't count as canon. If you want to accept it as canon... feel free. But don't expect me to agree with you until it is said, in the books, that Harry is not a metamorphmagus.
And as I said in my previous post...
It's the possibility that matters. It gives Harry and Tonks a reason to spend time with each other. If he is, great... if not, oh well.
Probably not, but like I said... if we're going to adhere strictly to canon, then you're essentially saying Ginny is it for him.
Hence the metamorphmagus bit.
But I also don't think the book accounted for every minute of every day, so the possibility of them having spent time together outside of Order meetings isn't to be ruled out even in canon.
Though it isn`t cannon or is it canon ...... Harry , Luna for the win. The girl may not be as crazy as she lets on.
Also I would like to see the Dursleys rewarded at some point.....afterall HOW much money does Harry have , and given she was muggle born and raised ,How many muggle companies do you think the Potters invested in on Lily`s urging?
Shoot wouldn`t it be funny if Fanon proved to be true and Harry did own Grummings.
Also I would like to see the Dursleys rewarded at some point.....afterall HOW much money does Harry have , and given she was muggle born and raised ,How many muggle companies do you think the Potters invested in on Lily`s urging?
Shoot wouldn`t it be funny if Fanon proved to be true and Harry did own Grummings.
While the introduction of Luna in Phoenix was an interesting red herring, I've never seriously believed Rowling intended for Harry to end up with anyone other than Ginny. Even from Philosopher's Stone, in which she shows up for all of two scenes, there are hints if you care to find them.
That doesn't mean I like it though. I didn't like Ginny at all in HBP and I only liked her in about two or three scenes of Phoenix. And Harry's sudden wake-up in HBP was tacky. I think Rowling was probably utterly sick of the shipping debates and just wanted to get it the hell out of the way.
That doesn't mean I like it though. I didn't like Ginny at all in HBP and I only liked her in about two or three scenes of Phoenix. And Harry's sudden wake-up in HBP was tacky. I think Rowling was probably utterly sick of the shipping debates and just wanted to get it the hell out of the way.
I didn't mind that it was Ginny/Harry, it's not my favorite pairing, but I'm not against it. I really didn't care if Harry ended up with anyone. But if she was going to some scenes where ther relationship from my best friends little sister to friend to girlfriend would have been nice.
She even had the perfect set up for it to happen. Ron and Hermione are prefects. Prefects have duties that would keep them from hanging out with Harry. At that point Ginny or really any girl you would trade in her place has a chance since he doesn't have anyone else to hangout with now.
She even had the perfect set up for it to happen. Ron and Hermione are prefects. Prefects have duties that would keep them from hanging out with Harry. At that point Ginny or really any girl you would trade in her place has a chance since he doesn't have anyone else to hangout with now.
Eh, maybe, it just bothers me that she establishes Ginny as this shy hero-worshiping girl, then has her dissapear for the next two books, only to reappear as a "fiery and vivacious redhead", as a side note, I agree with Mysterio over there completely about the 'Potter men have a thing for..." cliche, I hate that. Also, the fact that Harry is always going on about how he wants someone who will see him as 'just Harry' and yet he goes out with a girl who HE KNOWS is a huge fangirl and saw him only as 'The-Boy-Who-Lived'. Not to mention, he's also always whining about how he doesn't want to be controlled and he hates people making his decisions for him, yet it was obvious that all the people around him wanted him to 'be with Ginny', especialy Ron and Molly Weasley. Personally I like pretty much every girl in HP and Harry could have been with any one of them and I would have been happy with that, but not Ginny, anyone but Ginny.
JKR introduced Ginny as being shy, but also made it known that it was out of character for her. As for hero-worshipping, she was ten and that early in the series everyone treated Harry like that so you really can't hold it against her. It wasn't until book 4 when his press turned negative that his fame started to annoy him. By then she also wasn't treating him like that in the limited interaction they had (even though he actually saved her and she had reason to really hero worship him.)
As for the cliche, yeah it is annoying and more than a bit stupid. But most cliches are.
Harry has never gone on about wanting a girl to see him for himself. The only complaint he had in the books regarding how people viewed him was how everyone turned against him when his press went bad. He might very well have been interested in Romilda Vane if she wasn't an idiot and insulted his friends a la Malfoy on the train.
Harry also never makes a big deal on how people control him. His complaint was that he wasn't told anything and he was being kept in the dark. When Dumbledore changed that, he forgave him and went right back into his former role doing what Dumbles wanted. Ron hinting at Harry about Ginny wasn't something that bothered him, and Mrs. Weasley hasn't done anything to try to get them together.
The major problem with H/G and the rest of the series is that a lot of the fandom cliches are taken as fact for what has happened in the series, and a lot of it is just wrong.
As for the cliche, yeah it is annoying and more than a bit stupid. But most cliches are.
Harry has never gone on about wanting a girl to see him for himself. The only complaint he had in the books regarding how people viewed him was how everyone turned against him when his press went bad. He might very well have been interested in Romilda Vane if she wasn't an idiot and insulted his friends a la Malfoy on the train.
Harry also never makes a big deal on how people control him. His complaint was that he wasn't told anything and he was being kept in the dark. When Dumbledore changed that, he forgave him and went right back into his former role doing what Dumbles wanted. Ron hinting at Harry about Ginny wasn't something that bothered him, and Mrs. Weasley hasn't done anything to try to get them together.
The major problem with H/G and the rest of the series is that a lot of the fandom cliches are taken as fact for what has happened in the series, and a lot of it is just wrong.
Although I do not like a Harry/Ginny paring either - I always wanted him to end up with Hermione - I DO like Half Blood Prince.
And I have not ruled out the possibility that Harry is under the effects of a love potion, for those were also introduced in Half Blood Prince and some people might actually go along with such an idea, for "the power the Dark Lord knows not" is believed to be love, so even if the love is artificial, they might hope it will be enough for Harry to face Voldemort.
And there are actually some possible hints in the book, that this might be true, because Ginny did ask the twins, if their love potions work, and although theirs only lasted for a day, the potion that Tom Riddle senior was given lasted several months, so she might have brewed a longer lasting one herself - one, which wouldn't be so obvious that he was under a love potion in the first place, so that his "feelings" would develop over time.
Come on guys, have any of you ever felt a "moster" inside of you, when you were jelous of another, especially when you never showed any interest in the person before ?
And I have not ruled out the possibility that Harry is under the effects of a love potion, for those were also introduced in Half Blood Prince and some people might actually go along with such an idea, for "the power the Dark Lord knows not" is believed to be love, so even if the love is artificial, they might hope it will be enough for Harry to face Voldemort.
And there are actually some possible hints in the book, that this might be true, because Ginny did ask the twins, if their love potions work, and although theirs only lasted for a day, the potion that Tom Riddle senior was given lasted several months, so she might have brewed a longer lasting one herself - one, which wouldn't be so obvious that he was under a love potion in the first place, so that his "feelings" would develop over time.
Come on guys, have any of you ever felt a "moster" inside of you, when you were jelous of another, especially when you never showed any interest in the person before ?
The problem with the Love Potion idea is that we were shown how they worked when Ron got dosed. Harry didn't display the right symtoms for a potion, not even close actually. I had no problems with the series of events that led to them dating, my only beef was that it wasn't shown. We know that they spent a lot of time together over the summer, but JKR failed in one of the major rules of storytelling: show don't tell. It may have made the book longer, but I think it would have gotten a better reception if the summer scenes were expanded and the readers got to see the events that led to Harry's attraction to Ginny.
On the relationship note, I have a pretty major beef with the cliche that the two are in love after a few weeks together even with the time spent crushing on each other (even though I fell to this cliche in the one HP fic I've done.) On a plus note about HBP, JKR didn't bring that up at all, leaving them basically as friends who are romantically inclined.
On the relationship note, I have a pretty major beef with the cliche that the two are in love after a few weeks together even with the time spent crushing on each other (even though I fell to this cliche in the one HP fic I've done.) On a plus note about HBP, JKR didn't bring that up at all, leaving them basically as friends who are romantically inclined.