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goldenarms

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#26
Chapter 5: World War Ninja


Pain: "...maybe we shouldn't have shot the ninetails into outer space after all."

Damn. Going back to the academy netted me my forehead protector, but I also found out that I don't have the ability to save or load the game at will, which means little experiments like the fight against the ANBU earlier are out. On the other hand, the meaning of each stat was conveniently displayed in the help window. The ratio of strength to intelligence multiplied by the ratio of constitution to wisdom was chakra control, with a score of 1 being perfect control. The amount of chakra I had was simply the sum of the four stats. Handseals and the like were linked to dexterity, while charisma affected interpersonal interactions.

Stats were increased by performing an action linked to that stat - lifting heavy objects increased strength, studying improved intelligence, etc. A rather more annoying limitation was not being able to perform jutsu that I haven't learned in the game or that I don't understand perfectly. This, unfortunately, leaves me with the academy basics and a handful of others.
No more Eldritch HAX Naruto, yay!

And this is what I was looking for. This kind of stuff that does, in fact, ground things into the reality given. Now, how far the authors actually stay within the rules is another thing, but on the whole, we do have some guidelines which should conduct what Naruto should have access to, and none 0f this 174 years of skills or character sheets riddled with so many dots for skills, it might as well be subjected to a shotgun blast to save time filling them all in.

I still haven't figured out what the skills, relationships, or character specialization sections mean, but I should have time to deal with those. There aren't really any major events that affect me for at least six years, so that leaves me with more than enough leeway to take things slow.
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Your jonin instructor is Itachi Uchiha. You know, the guy that would be totally executing his entire clan in two years, max! If nothing else, perhaps you should be concerned about just how and why you got him of all people. To assume nothing would happen to you in the next six years just because that's how it was the first time is not only monumentally stupid when you dramatically changed things the way you have, but... it's completely INSANE!

Think, man, THINK!

.....

Anyway, most of this chapter is enriched history, complete with some fudging of numbers, more notably, Itachi's age. He's currently 14 now, instead of 12, which got him a pass into the closing of the Third Ninja War. Can't honesty imagine doing what for a freshly green genin, but still...

And to add, I'm not entirely cool about (knowingly) altering a select person's age in order to make a fanfic story work. I mean sure, you could write about an older or younger character for certain reasons, just as long as they're not for reasons like "Oh, I like Asuma x Hanabi, but here Asuma/Hanabi is 7/26." If you're screwing with a key character's age just for the sake of your story, maybe you need to rethink your story.

"Genin Uzumaki. You are five minutes late. Take this scroll. I will test you on the contents in two days. You are allowed to take as many d-ranks as you would wish from the mission office. Dismissed."
And that was the entire meeting.

Short and to the point. Can't say it was sweet though, just... well, it beats this:



:sisi: Much better option... much better...

That...was not what I was expecting from Itachi. True, I hadn't exactly had much experience with him outside of the whole "I'm here for what you have in your body" thing, but still. That was just a little abrupt, I'd have to say. Must be something they teach the Uchiha at birth. Well, let's see what the scroll - are you kidding me? Tree walking? Who expects a six year old to be able to tree walk in two days? Especially when they have no help? This is either a test, to see if I know more than I let on, or to see whether I can ask people for help, or if I can admit my inadequacy, or...

Oh who am I kidding. He probably just expects that everyone is that good - after all, he is. Damn, I hate working with a genius.
And that's the end of the chapter. Not really all that impressed or feeling super-eager to read the next chapter. I'm not sold on the need for Itachi Uchiha to be Naruto's instructor, and not even a full time one -- he only sees him like two day a week and has carte blanche on all his D rank missions.

What the hell kind of sense does that make, especially given that Naruto is SIX YEARS OLD? Why not just skip all this D rank bullshit and give the tyke solo assassination missions on missing-nin? It'd be just about as responsible as what we're doing here.

It's just flat-out stupid and patently irresponsible from an outsider's perspective.

"Oh, wow, he's so brilliant; he won't need much supervision. Let's let the equally super young genius give him two minutes of his time each week."

Are you a moron? He's six. Doesn't matter how brilliant he might be, he hasn't developed common fucking sense and will get himself seriously injured, if not killed because no one was watching him and making certain he does things right. And if this kid fucks up D rank missions, you lose money. Word gets around, and you lose customers. You lose customers, the Fire Lord is going to start looking elsewhere for business, and monetary support goes down. Lack of money means less you can spend on training, educating, and feeding your troops, which, in turn, reduces morale, lowers the number of qualified candidates, and forces those in command to demand better results, which will churn out weaker, unready, unqualified troops forced through the system to meet quota who cannot properly complete their missions, and thus lose you more customers, and the vicious cycle begins anew.

In short, Konoha will fast become a weak, obsolete Hidden Village because of your incompetence.

Geez, think of these things, will you? This isn't a kakistocracy, at least, I hope it isn't -- otherwise, screw everything, let's make the six year old Hokage now and watch the village go down in flames.

There's only so much suspension of disbelief can support, and ths is breaking that suspension system.

Next chapter.
 

alucard964

Well-Known Member
#27
"SNIP" kakashi graduated at 5 after one year in the academy. So a 6 yr old graduates after 6 months isn't so surprising at all.
 

goldenarms

Well-Known Member
#28
alucard964 said:
"SNIP" kakashi graduated at 5 after one year in the academy. So a 6 yr old graduates after 6 months isn't so surprising at all.
I'm pretty certain that was retconned from the databooks, going by the most recent flashbacks of Kakashi and Tobito. Unless they were all 5 at the time or Kakashi was significantly younger than his peers.

And it still does nothing to actually explain or somehow justify the concept that a freshly-made genin, particularly one who is only six years old, doesn't need any supervision or a full time teacher, especially from an outsider viewpoint. The entire point of training under a jonin is to get experience as a ninja and learn how to do your job right. Even the brightest and smartest make mistakes, like Kakashi when he first invented Chidori. And a six year old is still a six year old -- they're still learning a lot in life; they will make mistakes. Huge ones from an adult's perspective. It's okay; that's just part of the process of learning. Ther minds haven't really developed yet, so their logic is going to be totally different from an adult's.

Saying Naruto needs almost no supervision and giving him free rein over his missions, despite not having done anything to prove he can handle such responsibility is akin to setting him up to fail. Again, it's ignoring what we know about Naruto's 180 years of mental experience, and looking at thing from a common sense outsider point-of-view.
 

zeebee1

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#29
Kakashi was promoted at six. I don't think we know when he actually graduated. Also, the beating jounin bit shows you just how easy easy mode is. More to the point it was atutorial fight on easy mode.
 

goldenarms

Well-Known Member
#30
...fuck, I just lost the review I just finished writing of the next chapter.



Stupid McDonald's internet...

zeebee1 said:
Kakashi was promoted at six. I don't thin we know when he actually graduated. Also, the beating jounin bit shows you just how easy easy mode is. More to the point it was atutorial fight on easy mode.
I swear to god, everything was cosmically retconned the moment Naruto went to Legendary mode and we were given actual stats to look at.

Not that stats really seem to matter in the slightest, mind you. They're just there to keep the illusion going.
 
#31
I swear to god, everything was cosmically retconned the moment Naruto went to Legendary mode and we were given actual stats to look at.
...isn't that pretty much the whole reason behind a difficulty change?
 
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