Nasuverse Unlimited Clock Works?
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biigoh said:
White you say?
Also, don't forget her noble phantasm is likely a legendary artifact.
There's also the Kaldra equipment, which literally creates a powerful avatar if it's gathered, and Umezawa's <s>cheat device</s> Jitte, but Tetzuo Umezawa is Black, even though he was overall a decent man who just tried to do the right thing... Pity he got involved with the Myojin of Night's Reach.
I would say he was at least just as bad and possibly worse before he got involved with the Myojin. This is a guy who used to be a member of the strongest criminal organization in the region, sent a guy to be tortured to death by a monster (admittedly he was bound by an oath), and one that showed almost no interest in helping anyone but himself until possibly the last book. At best I would call him a chaotic neutral, certainly not good.
Mea Nihil said:
biigoh said:
White you say?
Also, don't forget her noble phantasm is likely a legendary artifact.
There's also the Kaldra equipment, which literally creates a powerful avatar if it's gathered, and Umezawa's <s>cheat device</s> Jitte, but Tetzuo Umezawa is Black, even though he was overall a decent man who just tried to do the right thing... Pity he got involved with the Myojin of Night's Reach.
:blink: :blink: :blink: I use to be big into magic, then Urza died........ is it me or are some of the new cards so broken compaired to the ones I remember or are cards like Avatar of Might and Vitalizing Windjust so weak now?
Damn and I remember a time were people would fear the Wrath of God, Dirtcowl Wurm, Armageddon combo.
One of my best freinds played a white/green deck. He had a good number of medium-sized creatures, and four Armadillo Cloaks.
Once he got a couple of them on 3/3s or 4/4s, it was game over.
Once he got a couple of them on 3/3s or 4/4s, it was game over.
I love those cards, would put them on Thorn Elemental and watch my oponents cry, Another card you could use instead of Wrath is Mageta the Lion, Prophecy rocked!!!!!
No mention of Damnation ( http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Det...iverseid=122423 )? :lol:
Or Whispersilk Cloak ( http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Det...iverseid=135278 )?
Or Whispersilk Cloak ( http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Det...iverseid=135278 )?
Bah, I prefer Black weenie. Dauthi Slayers make everything better.
Getting back onto the original topic and changing the idea somewhat, what if Shirou was a planeswalker. By that I mean the original, practically god planeswalkers that remake themselves with just a thought, not the weak planeswalkers that could be mistaken for an unusually good mage.
Getting back onto the original topic and changing the idea somewhat, what if Shirou was a planeswalker. By that I mean the original, practically god planeswalkers that remake themselves with just a thought, not the weak planeswalkers that could be mistaken for an unusually good mage.
Except god!Planeswalkers were boring as hell. The currently nerfed planeswalkers, what with the fact that they don't destroy the universe if they fart in the wrong direction, create a lot more conflict and are therefore far more interesting in terms of possible character development. Shirou as one of them would make for an interesting story that *didn't* run out of steam five chapters after exhausting the original gimmick.
To add to this, Shirou not being halfway omnipotent would mean that the writer would have to work to keep him in character, instead of running with some godlike hack of a character with zero relation to canon that just happens to be named Shirou, in the style of so many Harry Potter fics...
To add to this, Shirou not being halfway omnipotent would mean that the writer would have to work to keep him in character, instead of running with some godlike hack of a character with zero relation to canon that just happens to be named Shirou, in the style of so many Harry Potter fics...
Actually, SOME of the original planeswalkers were interesting. Case in point being the minotaur Sandruu, who despite having the power of a 'Walker, was so hung up on a minotaur's lifestyle he rarely made the right use of it. He still believed too much in 'bash enemy face in, everything else comes second'. XD
Urza was also interesting, because despite his practically divine powers, he was like a little kid in a toy shop when it came to machinery, and he always built it himself, because he felt simply willing it real was cheating.
As for Nicol Bolas... he's a dragon. He's supposed to be an arrogant ass who misuses his power. But he also treated the humans who swore loyalty to him well, allowed the Umezawa clan's descendants to settle on his lands and kept an eye out for Dominaria, eventually getting fed up with the faggotry of the other 'walkers, and ENDING it in rather radical fashion - by taking leshrac and bodily throwing him in a time rift, among other things.
Never let it be said Nicol Bolas does things half assed. :snigger:
Urza was also interesting, because despite his practically divine powers, he was like a little kid in a toy shop when it came to machinery, and he always built it himself, because he felt simply willing it real was cheating.
As for Nicol Bolas... he's a dragon. He's supposed to be an arrogant ass who misuses his power. But he also treated the humans who swore loyalty to him well, allowed the Umezawa clan's descendants to settle on his lands and kept an eye out for Dominaria, eventually getting fed up with the faggotry of the other 'walkers, and ENDING it in rather radical fashion - by taking leshrac and bodily throwing him in a time rift, among other things.
Never let it be said Nicol Bolas does things half assed. :snigger:
Bolas is a villain, and is thus exempt. 
Everyone knows that the more powerful the villain in comparison to the hero, the more daunting the task and the more impressive the story. For heroes, however, it's the reverse as reasonable power instead of retarded near omnipotence (I'm looking at you, shonen series. Bleeegh.) makes those epic moments really count.
Also, because I have nothing more productive to do other than dick around:
Everyone knows that the more powerful the villain in comparison to the hero, the more daunting the task and the more impressive the story. For heroes, however, it's the reverse as reasonable power instead of retarded near omnipotence (I'm looking at you, shonen series. Bleeegh.) makes those epic moments really count.Also, because I have nothing more productive to do other than dick around:
Pulled this idea together somewhat, though it's probably a little rushed still.
I imagine I could create more scenery and tie this event in with something specific in canon, but I only know of what has been discussed here and what I saw in the anime. I only spent about 20 minutes typing this is notepad, so it could probably use some corrections.
I imagine I could create more scenery and tie this event in with something specific in canon, but I only know of what has been discussed here and what I saw in the anime. I only spent about 20 minutes typing this is notepad, so it could probably use some corrections.
My personal suggestions, feel free to disregard them.
Add a piece how the guy had gemstones instead of eyes (Rin's reaction at a later point might be interesting. Also, not sure if I'd rather it be an expy or a crossover...), throw away dark steel (Urza created ant-artifact soldiers made of ICE, besides Thran metal and powerstones needed WTFhueg volcano forge in Shiv, I shudder to think what is needed for Dark Steel) and hide Yawgmoth in the grail.
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Now that I think about it... Yawgmoth isn't that different than whatever it is that is the Grail. The only difference is that in Apocalypse, he actually fucks up the world. That, and Phyrexia, his plane of hidden undead mechanical fun stuff.
Add a piece how the guy had gemstones instead of eyes (Rin's reaction at a later point might be interesting. Also, not sure if I'd rather it be an expy or a crossover...), throw away dark steel (Urza created ant-artifact soldiers made of ICE, besides Thran metal and powerstones needed WTFhueg volcano forge in Shiv, I shudder to think what is needed for Dark Steel) and hide Yawgmoth in the grail.
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Now that I think about it... Yawgmoth isn't that different than whatever it is that is the Grail. The only difference is that in Apocalypse, he actually fucks up the world. That, and Phyrexia, his plane of hidden undead mechanical fun stuff.
I would liken Yawgmoth to Angra Mainyu - ie, a practically divine entity that's best left alone, even with the Grail's power as backup.
I mean, he scared the incarnation of all magic in all of Dominaria into near insanity just by being there, while heavily wounded and lurking about. And when he actually entered the world, he was killing things just by touching them in that death cloud form of his.
I'm pretty sure Yawgmoth's mortal body is long gone. He's not a planeswalker - he's something else entirely, something that should never have existed, and yet somehow came to be.
As for Darksteel, forging it is easy - but once it's cooled, NOTHING can change its shape. Ever. At all. Kinda like adamantium on crack.
It should be noted that it was made possible by Phyrexia tainting Mirrodin, though. And Memnarch himself used to be the Mirari... what Karn was thinking when he made an animated Mirari the guardian of Argentum, I'll never know.
I mean, he scared the incarnation of all magic in all of Dominaria into near insanity just by being there, while heavily wounded and lurking about. And when he actually entered the world, he was killing things just by touching them in that death cloud form of his.
I'm pretty sure Yawgmoth's mortal body is long gone. He's not a planeswalker - he's something else entirely, something that should never have existed, and yet somehow came to be.
As for Darksteel, forging it is easy - but once it's cooled, NOTHING can change its shape. Ever. At all. Kinda like adamantium on crack.
It should be noted that it was made possible by Phyrexia tainting Mirrodin, though. And Memnarch himself used to be the Mirari... what Karn was thinking when he made an animated Mirari the guardian of Argentum, I'll never know.