Where Yaoi fan girls are born...

[Moshulel]

Now, i was minding my own bussiness babysitting my eight year old cousin (which needs to go!) and naturaly we were watching cartoons (what else? Chase him around the house?) all thing were good and nice when i got the shock of my life.

We were watching Jetix unaware of the horror that will be unleashed upon me.

New cartoon where the main girl chases a boy (fan girl off course). She get her hands on Cupid's bow... first thing she does? Shoots two boys with it. :angry:

And like that wasn't enough she also shoots the main character and he falls in love with a 60+ year old man. :sweat:

It annoyes me so! It's not enough that we have geneticall programmed fan girls, now we have ways of encouraging their growth? :headbanger: :headbanger: :headbanger:

Oh, before i forget.

Naruto filler episode: The Oomba or something like that provided ammo for yaoi fans. And also a proof that Oro's gay. :sweat:

 

[SimmyC]

:headbanger: Fangirls need to be wiped off hte face of the Earth! You think the fact that if all the boys are gay, and they support it, they wouldn't be breeding. <_<

 

[EagleCeres]

so sad :blue:

something so innocent like a joke on romance, perverted in such a way :blue:

I demand restitution... :angry:

we need more anime (and normal cartoons) where little boys find cupid's bow and arrows and shoot little girls! :evil: ...o(they can blame it on cooties!)

HLA for everone!!! :lol:

YES! Yuri must prevail!!! :wub:

 

[hawker_748]

Dammit, why isn't yuri more prominent in fanfiction?

You figure that the majority of people who read it are GUYS, hetrosexual ones at that, so why aren't there more examples of writers pander... err... I mean CATERING... to what they secretly fantasize about?

You'd think that if there was even a small increase in HLA in fanfics, there'd be servers crashing from the stampede of readers rushing to read them.

Maybe we all need to do our part, and have all of the authors at this forum write a yuri story, to try to beat back the relentless tide of yaoi...

 

[EagleCeres]

You figure that the majority of people who read it are GUYS, hetrosexual ones at that, so why aren't there more examples of writers pander... err... I mean CATERING... to what they secretly fantasize about?

Exactly... Catering to what the ecchi (ie: manlove hating) masses need to bring the balance back to it's rightful perverted place, smack dab in the center of all perversion, but for that we need plenty more:

H L A ! ! !
(hopefully the kind that can ealisy turn into Harem situations... but that's wishful thinking on my part)

 

[toraneko]

I'm beginning to wonder if I'm the only male in the fanfiction world that doesn't like yaoi or yuri.



I mean, it's not so bad if they're just killing time waiting for the next orgy with their harem-lord, but by itself it's just so... unfilfilling to watch or read.

 

[H-Man]

Nah, yer not. I feel the same.

...well, only I wouldn't mind figuring out just what fxf sex is like.

 

[nuclear death frog]

Dammit, why isn't yuri more prominent in fanfiction?

You figure that the majority of people who read it are GUYS, hetrosexual ones at that, so why aren't there more examples of writers pander... err... I mean CATERING... to what they secretly fantasize about?

Actually, I would be very surprised if the majority of fanfiction writers/readers were male. It probably depends at least somewhat on the category, but I would be very surprised indeed.

For one example, I can tell you that *most* of what were/are considered the best Dragonball Z fanfics were written by girls/women.

I swear to god that I am not making that up.

The Last Warrior/Full Circle -- written by Nora Jemison. A woman.

The Dragonball Super Z series -- written by Juuhachi-gou and Mirai Bulma. Women, both.

Contradicting Mission -- written by Chelsee. A woman.

Dragoness Eclectic's Raditz stories -- Dragoness Eclectic is a woman.

Vejiitasei Ascendant -- written by a woman (I forgot her name years ago).

Saiyajin, by Katchan. A woman.


And on down the list. The DBZ fandom is an old one, and most of what are considered the best stories were written years ago, some of them before the series even came to the US, or at least before it exploded in popularity due to its running on Cartoon Network.

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As for fanfiction not having more yuri, well, there are a handful fandoms where it is the majority by a mile, and not simply for the canonical (in those series) girl-girl pairs.

Sailor Moon. Shoujo Kakumei Utena. Read or Die and all variants thereof. Noir.

More exist. Offhand I can't think of them, but I guarantee you they exist.

 

[GenocideHeart]

You assume people on the Net tell the TRUTH about their sex. I'm not sure if I should congratulate you for your faith in the human race, or pity you for being so gullible.

 

[nuclear death frog]

You assume people on the Net tell the TRUTH about their sex. I'm not sure if I should congratulate you for your faith in the human race, or pity you for being so gullible.

*shrug*

Valid point, I suppose. But the information's out there, if you're willing to invest time into looking for it. At any rate, you can choose whether or not to take my word for it. Ultimately, I don't care that much.

 

[EagleCeres]

More exist. Offhand I can't think of them, but I guarantee you they exist.

Yes I have no doubt that there is Yuri Fiction, neither do I doubt that women do great jobs in fiction.

What I do object is that in current day and age, if you go to a convention... any convention, you will see rabid Yaoi loving fangirls more than normal fangilrs... and what do these rabid yaoi loving ones do on their spare time... well create fiction that is not always on par with the wirters you mentioned.

Sure, their effort is appreciated (by those that like it), but most of the time its as all have seen most are one shot slash of the OMG! DEY R CUTE... I WANT THEM IN BUTSECKZ!!! variety without much real content...

In my personal posting on this individual thread, I was both goofing on the lack of quality Yuri and in many cases straight lemons available, and to comment on how easily you can see some trends on how you (not so easily, but with plenty of exposure) can warp a mind toward a specific prefference...

aaanyway... thats enough attempt at ranting/rambling... viva Yuri!
(links are encouraged!)

 

[GenocideHeart]

You assume people on the Net tell the TRUTH about their sex. I'm not sure if I should congratulate you for your faith in the human race, or pity you for being so gullible.

*shrug*

Valid point, I suppose. But the information's out there, if you're willing to invest time into looking for it. At any rate, you can choose whether or not to take my word for it. Ultimately, I don't care that much.

I wasn't questioning your word. I was questioning THEIRS. You have no reason to lie, but perhaps the 'girls' in question do... That's all.

 

[nuclear death frog]

You assume people on the Net tell the TRUTH about their sex. I'm not sure if I should congratulate you for your faith in the human race, or pity you for being so gullible.

*shrug*

Valid point, I suppose. But the information's out there, if you're willing to invest time into looking for it. At any rate, you can choose whether or not to take my word for it. Ultimately, I don't care that much.

I wasn't questioning your word. I was questioning THEIRS. You have no reason to lie, but perhaps the 'girls' in question do... That's all.

If you're going to doubt things to that much of an extreme -- once you've actually *searched* for the information and either found it, or given up -- you're eventually going to create yourself a world where up is down, left is right, white is green, yellow is pink with purple polka-dots, and 17 is 32. From there, all roads lead to madness.

 

[GenocideHeart]

If you're going to doubt things to that much of an extreme -- once you've actually *searched* for the information and either found it, or given up -- you're eventually going to create yourself a world where up is down, left is right, white is green, yellow is pink with purple polka-dots, and 17 is 32. From there, all roads lead to madness.

That's not what I was saying. If I can have solid proof that a woman on the Net is a woman in real life, I'll believe it. Until then, I'm not trusting ANYONE as far as their sex is concerned... mainly because I've seen males pose as females in order to 'look cute' and get people to give positive comments to them more easily.

Do you understand where I'm going now?

 

[nuclear death frog]

For the most part, yes.

 

[SimmyC]

Well, putting aside the gender of the writers, I will say that I admit, not being a HUGE fan of yuri. Even in say, Love Hina, I don't like to read Shinbou/Naru fics (I mean, I hate to condemn Keitaro to Naru. Why would I do it for Shinobu?). That being said, I still prefer it over yaoi. ^_^ And some fandoms... well, the shoujo-ai feeling is or close to canon (Read or Die? The Paper seems a little more smitten to Miss Deep than just friends. Not to mention the lack of any good male characters. Especially when one of the good ones... turns evil in the second series. :headbanger: ). Otherwise, even I tend to avoid them.

 

[toraneko]

Well, it's definitely a lot less annoying if the characters in question had yuri leanings in their original series. RoD is pretty obvious, as is Noir, and I will laugh at anyone who denies the yuri in Utena.
Further, I can sort-of see it happening in, say, Love Hina. Kitsune seems to be pretty adventurous, same with Suu (hell, she's more yuri than Kitsune - she did kiss Shinobu in the anime), Mutsumi probably wouldn't mind as long as Keitaro was involved (she, too, kissed a woman in the anime), Naru was being all come-hither in the beginning when she thought Kitsune was in the onsen with her, and Shinobu was acting similar to that in the epilogue chapter.
However, I get annoyed at so much of the fandom - gender undisclosed - who propose a Kitsune/Motoko relationship as "so perfect!", regardless of the fact that they have too little in common to make them close friends, let alone a romantic item.

Even worse is, of course, the Naruto fandom. I am so sick and fucking tired of seeing Sasuke/Naruto flung about all over the place. There are even a surprising number of fans that even think it's a "canon pairing"! What the hell?! And that's not even the half of it. There's your Iruka/Kakashi, which has less basis in canon than SasuNaru, yet is similarly bandied about, and gets much less opposition. There's Kiba/Shino, which I wouldn't touch with a ten-foot nuke. And, worst of all, there's the disturbingly popular Sasuke/Itachi... just, eww.

Slash writers...

Oh, and as for the identities of the fanfic writers... Last year, at Project A-Kon 16, I attended a panel on writing fanfiction. Out of the thirty or so panel attendees, there were about five guys, including myself and two of my friends. And at least one-third of the girls openly admitted to writing slash. Guh. I'd be surprised if even half of the attendees actually ever took the good advice the panelists gave to heart. :headbanger:

And, I swear, if I see another one of those godawful MPREG abominations, you might see the resulting calamity on the international news. :angry:

 

[Israfel]

Yah, cons are becoming scary places to be, as infested with yaoi loving fangirls as they are. It'a gotten to the point where you can't even pick up a decent fangirl (the normal variety) to screw around with anymore without being forced to make out with three other guys before they even let you touch them, not to mention the overall lack of good looking fangirls, I went to J-Con a few months ago, as most of you know, and even at the all night rave there was pretty slim pickings as far as females went. Gah, it just never fails to astound me though just how many females are sucked into this black abyss of gay debauchery, I just don't see the appeal.

 

[toraneko]

It's a conspiracy, I tell you.

First, they sucker the fandoms into turning yaoi. Then they sock-puppet their propaganda until they've recruited enough dumb kids to stop.
Next thing you know, rules disallowing fics with heterosexual pairings will be posted on fanfiction.net.
From there on, it's a storm of out-of-character gayness, self-lubricating rectums, and impregnated men until it finally collapses into a black hole of utter SUCK.

Mark my words, it can happen!

 

[Israfel]

It's a conspiracy, I tell you.

First, they sucker the fandoms into turning yaoi. Then they sock-puppet their propaganda until they've recruited enough dumb kids to stop.
Next thing you know, rules disallowing fics with heterosexual pairings will be posted on fanfiction.net.
From there on, it's a storm of out-of-character gayness, self-lubricating rectums, and impregnated men until it finally collapses into a black hole of utter SUCK.

Mark my words, it can happen!

That's the point where, much like 18th century France, we are finally pushed too far and stage an uprising, pull all our fics from FF.net, crash the server (I can do this), and jump ship. We will create a new site, a yaoi free place of wonderfulness where we can finally peruse the fandoms of our choice without having to worry about slogging through hoards of slash, it will be our...promised land!

 

[runestar]

Wasn't there some Shinobu/Motoko yuri pairing on some yurifanfiction site? It went on for quite a few chapters, think the author went by the name of Grandmoff - is a female, or at least claims to be. And going by the math, she was about 15-16 when she wrote the fic.

So Yuri-loving fangirls do exist as well, problem is, they also appear to be a dying breed. Bring them back... :blue: Bring them back...We need them to help stave off the darkness, even if it is just for that little bit longer... :lonegunman:

 

[Moshulel]

So Yuri-loving fangirls do exist as well, problem is, they also appear to be a dying breed. sad.gif Bring them back... piange.gif Bring them back...We need them to help stave off the darkness, even if it is just for that little bit longer... max.gif

Yes... and i daqre to argue that a yuri fic coming from a woman will be much better than anything fan girls can write as yaoi.. after all the know the "equipment" :snigger:

 

[runestar]

It helps that she is bi too. ^_^

Yes... and i daqre to argue that a yuri fic coming from a woman will be much better than anything fan girls can write as yaoi.. after all the know the "equipment"

So you are saying that only men should be writing yaoi? That sounds equally disasterous, or maybe I am just opposed to the entire concept altogether... -_-

 

[Lord Raa]

You know, this thread has helped me with a possible option for "Shota Sundae".

Assuming I add in Sailor Moon, that is.

The idea?


Well, what if Ami was a yaoi fangirl and wanted to see the changed Ranma engaged in teh but-secks with another boy?


The other senshi are like "WTF?"

And she's "What?" :huh.:


Then something happens. I don't know what, but I can assure you that it doesn't involve Ranma and his rusty sheriff's badge.

 

[AbyssalDaemon]

The thing that I don't really understand about most of the Yaoi fangirls that I encounter is they gotten it into their heads that death threats mean that two characters are in love or that the way to get two characters together is to have one of them rape the other and then have them together and call it love. :headbanger:

I mean would you have anything do with the person who had do that to you; beside removing their abilities to procreate with a dull spoon before killing them slowly.