foesjoe said:
Kibbles said:
Oh, maintaining democracy was the plan in the long term. Short-term, however, there was no saying how many Senators had been corrupted by the Sith, how deep the Dark Side's influence went. The Republic needed to be purged of such influence.
Sure, the Jedi might have had good intentions, but that wouldn't make their actions look any better. As far as the public would know ... the Jedi just assassinated the Chancellor claiming that they had every right to do it since he was a Sith.
Evidence? Well, he totally admitted it to Anakin Skywalker, that's evidence enough for immediate murder. Except it isn't really, to the galaxy at large they'd come off as a group trying to pull off a coup and present it as justified. As far as the galactic population knew the Sith had been gone for a thousand years.
They kept their cards too close to their chest. Admitting to the plan after the fact would be viewed with the same distrust as the so-called evidence.
Ultimately, it's a matter of perception. Just as it screwed them over in canon, Windu winning would still screw the Jedi over. They'd have zero public support and no matter how noble their intentions might actually be ... it's easy to lose trust, but very, very hard to regain it.
Palpatine was the Sith Lord pulling the strings behind the war. He was manipulating both sides and he's been in contact with high-ranking officials and generals of the Separatists. I'm pretty sure a tech team would have found evidence of that.
In the novels, they did. There was a single thread Palpatine hadn't managed to tie up, which was found out by some information-specialists. They managed to track some signals back to where Palpatine was operating from. Palpatine showed up personally with a retinue of clone commandos loyal to him and killed everyone there. The last thoughts of the clone commando scout leader who discovered the conspiracy before being cut in half with a lightsaber was "holy shit this will never make it back. The galaxy is utterly fucked."
He was right.
There was no blasting "past all rules binding the Jedi".
Except there totally was, because the Old Republic Jedi had very hard line rules on conduct. They actually disallowed certain kinds of
attacks, even in life-or-death battles, because they were "too Dark Side-ish." You can chop someone's hands off, no problem, but God help you if you cut someone in half. Presumably, they let Obi-Wan off for Episode I because he wasn't a full Knight and just saw his Master die, but they will canonically fuck you over for that.
Also, he probably had holocrons and sith texts and other artefacts in his quarters.
Right. Because he's smart enough to run that massive galaxy-wide gambit that played both sides, but stupid enough to leave Sith Holocrons in his office drawer.
Oh wait.
I still don't remember the Jedi ever mentioning disbanding the Senate and taking over under martial law in the films.
They didn't, but that's the measure they would have logically been forced to take unless they wanted to take it up the ass and say "yeah, we totally murdered the Senator with Emergency Powers just because." Either they go into a situation they won't come out of intact due to lack of evidence, or they use force against the system to prevent themselves from getting disbanded and/or wiped out.
They were fucked either way. Sidious was
that good. The true chessmaster doesn't destroy you. He lets you choose how you destroy yourself.
And I imagine that the public might be more willing to believe the Jedi than you think. They are universally regarded as heroes of justice and keepers of the peace.
The word of one politician turned the entire galaxy against them. They were very well regarded. Not so regarded that Everyone? wasn't willing to believe they would totally attempt to assassinate a major political figure for their own gain, and that Anakin did something that needed to be done by running around murdering all the Younglings.
Bacta all the way.
For eons, researchers have pursued the secrets of long life and good health. This has led to an untold number of medical breakthroughs, but few of these have had the far-reaching impact of bacta. An exotic chemical compound, bacta can heal nearly wound. The curative liquid has spawned an entire industry, allowing manufacturers to produce bacta tanks, bacta patches, and many other medical miracles.
The insectoid Vratix, native to the planet Thyferra, created the foundation for modern bacta. Since time immemorial, the Vratix have produced a healing lotion by combining gelatinous read alazhi with chemically created bacterial particles known as kavam. Researchers who discovered the Vratix's curative lotion later added colorless liquid ambori, which acts as a nutrient, disinfectant bath, and preservative. The resulting synthetic chemical, now known as bacta, mimics a body's vital fluids.
Bacta application methods vary depending upon the extent of the patient's wounds. Minor flesh wounds and second-degree burns can be treated using disposable patches coated in thick bacta gel. Patients suffering from multiple wounds, third-degree burns, or cellular damage resulting from things such as frostbite must be submersed in bacta. For these treatments, companies like Zaltin have produced large cylindrical bacta tanks.
Patients treated in bacta tanks are fully immersed in the liquid. A breath mask provides breathable gas, while a number of sensors attached to the subject's skin monitor vital signs. This immersion therapy allows the bacterial particles to saturate wounds and seep into damaged tissue, thus encouraging regeneration in all organic tissues (including nerves, muscles, tendons, and skin) with only minimal scarring. Zaltin's bacta tank also supports several retractable spray hypos designed to inject medicines, stim-shots, adrenaline boosters, and immunity enhancers into the patient or the healing mixture. In most cases, bacta tank patients recover from life-threatening injuries within a week. Patients can also be transported to medical centers in portable "bacta coffins."
Soon after it's creation, bacta production fell under the tight control of two corporations: Zaltin and Xucphra. Both of these companies agreed to control bacta prices, ensuring that the liquid and it's associated devices were always sold for the highest profit. During the Galactic Civil War, the Emperor forged alliances with both Zaltin and Xucphra, and then sent his stormtroopers to violently shut down smaller bacta suppliers, thus depriving the Alliance.
Although bacta was nearly impossible to acquire during the Emperor's reign, the Rebel Alliance did obtain a functional bacta tank and a small supply of the curative liquid for use at Echo Base on Hoth. After being attacked by a wampa and spending a night on the frozen surface of Hoth, Luke Skywalker would have surely died from his injuries if not for Echo Base's bacta tank. After the Battle of Endor, the New Republic initiated the so-called Bacta War in order to liberate the remaining bacta supply and spread it across the galaxy.
tl;dr, Koltol is Magic Healing Sauce, but Bacta is
SUPER Magic Healing Sauce. Also, Palpatine is a
humongous dick. Especially when you realize that, because Starkiller was behind the Rebels, that means that Palpatine probably
gave them that bacta tank.
Then he obviously wasn't talking about himself, since he didn't have one in the originals.
Yeah. Because there are no Jedi left. What's the point of possessing a tool for humiliating Jedi when all the Jedi are dead?