Who Would Win!?

whitewhiskey

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#1
Basically, we place match-ups in this thread for a fight, usually to the death, between fictional characters, who we think would win and why, and maybe argue over Who Would Win!

First one

Homer Simpson Vs. Peter Griffin

Who I think would win? Homer.

Homer, with an IQ of 55, may seem like an idiot, but he is actually smarter than Peter, who has an IQ of 40. Homer, while stupid, seems to learn from his mistakes a bit faster and have a better memory.

In addition, Homer's stints as a sideshow getting hit by cannons and as a professional boxer show his resilience to physical damage, and his stints as a Secret Service agent and an Astronaut could speak for his ability too. And, yes, Peter has done a lot of impossible things and survived, but so has Homer (At one point, he became exposed to so much radiation that he glowed, and he literally shook it off to go get lunch).

Peter, on the other hand, skins his knee and spends two minutes cradling his damn leg.
 

seitora

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#2
This was already done

And fictional characters have nothing on Mr. Rogers in a blood-stained sweater
 

TC_Hazard

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#3
Being as fair as one can be to Peter, he does have his fights with the Chicken... which are just about the only relevant combat things he has ever done, short of the occasional super power.

That said, Homer has a better library of showings, like, as has been mentioned, getting hit by cannonballs repeatedly.
 

whitewhiskey

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#5
TC_Hazard said:
Being as fair as one can be to Peter, he does have his fights with the Chicken... which are just about the only relevant combat things he has ever done, short of the occasional super power.

That said, Homer has a better library of showings, like, as has been mentioned, getting hit by cannonballs repeatedly.
Okay, let's flip things.

Marge Simpson Vs. Lois Griffin


Okay, on the one hand Marge is a housewife who seems to keep in relatively good shape, occasionally drinks but rarely becomes intoxicated. Despite her patient temper, when she does snap, she snaps big. She has had a number of jobs, but the only ones that would really matter is that she has been a body builder and a cop, and her only encounter with drugs as far as I can remember, is some steroid abuse during the former. She has no real fighting style aside from possibly some training from her police days, so she would basically be a brawler.

On the other hand, Lois doesn't often have a job, but she has proven skilled at martial arts and was a swimmer in high school who could have gone Olympic. However, she also has a long history of substance abuse, which could reek havoc with her physical condition, which was already weakened when she birthed Chris, who completely wrecked her on the way out, which doctors say severely shortened her life expectancy. She also usually has a short, violent temper.

Who would win?
 

whitewhiskey

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#6
Alright, let's try this again...

Miles "Tails" Prower

vs.

Fox McCloud

Physical Ability

On Fox's end, while he usually relies on his blaster, he's got a pretty solid grasp of martial arts, seeming to favor kicks. He is also somewhat adaptive, in Starfox Adventures he becomes pretty proficient in using Krystals staff after having it for a short period of time. That said, his fighting style, otherwise, seems to favor many rapid attacks over brute strength.

Tails, on the other hand, has shown relatively little actual style, although that's not to say he is afraid to throw a punch, but his odd fighting style seems to balance between punches and kicks while also using his tails as weapons at times, and with good reason, as he has shown to be able to break steel cages with them. Like Fox, Tails seems to otherwise favor speed and agility. With, and sometimes without, the assistance of his tails, he has been able to keep up with his hero Sonic whilst running at high and super-sonic speeds, and has shown great reflexes and agility. While his tails are strong, the rest of his body could be limited in power by his age (Let's go with the average of the video game age of 8 and the comic age of 11 and say he's about 9 1/2), however, the addition of his extra two extremities to a combination of punches and kicks can make him a bit harder to predict.

Special Abilities

Fox's speed has some cool additions. He is able to move at incredibly high speeds, leaving an afterimage and plowing through anything in his path. However, this is only usable in short bursts. He is also able to use his Fire Fox ability, cloaking himself in flames and dashing at an opponent.

Tails is able to use his tails to either fly or glide, depending on his situation, although this ability tires him out quickly. It should also be noted that, between him, Sonic and Knuckles, he seems to be the only one who can swim. Tails is also able to assume a Super Tails form, making him temporarily invincible and granting him four "Super Flickies", which automatically seek and destroy nearby enemies, but due to his young age, this is exceedingly difficult for him.

Handheld Gadgets

Fox is rarely seen without his blaster. A small arms laser, it has no limit on ammo and is capable of rapid, semi-automatic or fully automatic fire, but has a limited range of which the laser bolts peter out into nothing. Fox is also armed with a reflector shield, able to send projectiles back at their users and damage those who get too close.

Tails, despite his status as genius and inventor, rarely carries much around if he doesn't know he'll need it. He does, however, carry around a large amount of ring bombs that he can scatter from flight or throw with a lot of power and relative precision. The actual explosive range of these bombs is pretty small, although still rather strong.

Transports

Fox flies the Arwing, a small, personal flight ship capable of flight and space flight armed with laser canons and single lock Smart Bombs that have some great destructive power. The Arwing is well armored, able to withstand blasts and bombs and continue into battle. He also has the Landmaster, which is powerful and well armored, but slow and somewhat cumbersome.

Tails' main trainsport is the Tornado 2/Cyclone, a transforming car/plane/jet/mech-walker. In plane or jet mode, the craft is armed with multi-lock homine missiles and a gattling gun. It is fast and maneuverable, obviously moreso in jet mode. In walker mode, it keeps these weapons and while it slows, it does become more maneuverable as the cockpit and weapons can rotate on the legs a full 360 degrees. The walker is also able to hover for short distances and has been equipped with a large laser canon, whose beam is about as wide as the Cyclone itself. In spite of this, the armor of the Cyclone may be somewhat weaker and the way he rides, Tails is always exposed.

Mentality

Fox is a seasoned soldier and mercenary. But while experienced, he also seems to be more of a doer than a thinker at times, ready to fight and sometimes having a short temper.

Tails is a genius mechanically, but, to my knowledge, has not translated that into strategical genius. Young and sometimes naive, Tails can tend to more over think things sometimes and become frightened, but he has mostly grown out of that.

Now then...

Who Would Win
 

WizardOne

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#7
Neither of them, Goku flies in and blows up the planet while fighting superman.
 

chronodekar

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#8
At OP's request this thread has been moved from General fanfiction to Talk/General sub-forum. Have a good day folks!

-chronodekar
 

akun50

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#9
Homer vs Peter... Homer. While Peter has fought the chicken and a few others in rather epic battles, I just feel Homer has more endurance and durability. Plus, with Homer being immune to radioactivity (and likely radioactive himself), he can endure more of the random locations they would end up at during the inevitably biome-crossing fight.

Marge vs Lois... Lois. While Marge would've gotten a lot of skill at hand-to-hand thanks to her police training, I think Lois' skills are just too much for her. If Marge was fresh from the academy, Lois would have a much harder time, but it simply wouldn't be enough.

Tails vs Fox... I have to give it to Fox, simply because he's got more military experience and Brawl has shown he can fight on an even stand with Sonic. Without a distinct speed advantage or means of ambush, Tails simply can't win.
 

whitewhiskey

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#10
akun50 said:
Homer vs Peter... Homer. While Peter has fought the chicken and a few others in rather epic battles, I just feel Homer has more endurance and durability. Plus, with Homer being immune to radioactivity (and likely radioactive himself), he can endure more of the random locations they would end up at during the inevitably biome-crossing fight.

Marge vs Lois... Lois. While Marge would've gotten a lot of skill at hand-to-hand thanks to her police training, I think Lois' skills are just too much for her. If Marge was fresh from the academy, Lois would have a much harder time, but it simply wouldn't be enough.

Tails vs Fox... I have to give it to Fox, simply because he's got more military experience and Brawl has shown he can fight on an even stand with Sonic. Without a distinct speed advantage or means of ambush, Tails simply can't win.
HvP: I'd go with Homer too.

MvL: I gotta go more with Marge. She may not exactly work out like she did as a body-builder, but she does keep fit and, despite lessor skill in martial arts, her body just has to be in better condition than Lois' (Lets run through Lois' life real quick, cocane, meth, alcohol, smoking, over-eating, under-eating accompanied by diet pill abuse, her body being messed up delivering Chris along with the bomb Stewie supposedly left in her).

TvF: Brawl has shown Fox can fight Sonic, not necessarily keep up and win. There's also the fact that Sonic, like Fox, tends to act first. Both are the kind to plan moment to moment and not think too far ahead. Like I said, Tails' intelligence hasn't been shown to translate to strategic ability, but he can learn quick and adapt. I think it's a bit more even. If Fox could make it a distance battle outside of their vehicles, he has more of an advantage, but in close combat, it seems a bit of a toss up.

With vehicles included, I may have to give it to Tails, mostly because the Cyclone/Tornado 3 has only shown part of it's full speed and has a better ammo supply and lock-on system, where Fox's, I believe, is more limited on bombs, even if it has better armor. And even if Fox busts out the LandMaster, Tails is used to fighting large, armored vehicles without even using his walker mech.
 

akun50

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#11
whitewhiskey said:
akun50 said:
Tails vs Fox... I have to give it to Fox, simply because he's got more military experience and Brawl has shown he can fight on an even stand with Sonic. Without a distinct speed advantage or means of ambush, Tails simply can't win.
TvF: Brawl has shown Fox can fight Sonic, not necessarily keep up and win. There's also the fact that Sonic, like Fox, tends to act first. Both are the kind to plan moment to moment and not think too far ahead. Like I said, Tails' intelligence hasn't been shown to translate to strategic ability, but he can learn quick and adapt. I think it's a bit more even. If Fox could make it a distance battle outside of their vehicles, he has more of an advantage, but in close combat, it seems a bit of a toss up.

With vehicles included, I may have to give it to Tails, mostly because the Cyclone/Tornado 3 has only shown part of it's full speed and has a better ammo supply and lock-on system, where Fox's, I believe, is more limited on bombs, even if it has better armor. And even if Fox busts out the LandMaster, Tails is used to fighting large, armored vehicles without even using his walker mech.
I made my decision based on death battle rules: spontaneous fight, even starting ground and condition, only what's on hand at the moment.

Tails may have better vehicles, but they, and Fox's vehicles (aside from what he would gain from a Smash Ball), mean nothing. I will admit that Tails' intellect does give him a chance, but whether or not he can capitalize on it is entirely a question of luck.
 

Fellgrave

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#12
I say Fox over Tails.

In a battle to the death, Fox has far more experience, so he's less likely to freeze up and far more capable of ending it. Tails is a genius, but most of that smarts is in inventing, not necessarily tactics.

And Fox could simply quickdraw and gun Tails down with his beam pistol before he could react.

Oh, and here's one for ya, the battle of the Shrunken Masters: Happosai VS. Yoda. Who would win?
 

akun50

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#13
@Fellgrave:
I would have to say Yoda, though if properly motivated, Happosai would definitely give him a run for his money.

Yoda, after all, has had over 600 years of practice with the force, IIRC, and would be wielding a Lightsaber. He also wouldn't be distracted if any females happened to be nearby.

Most of the techniques we've seen out of Happosai are either distractions, pranks, explosives that seem to do more concussive damage than actual harm, or one-shot all-or-nothing super attacks. I don't doubt he could get the upper hand on Yoda if push came to shove, but I doubt it would last enough for him to capitalize on it.

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Here's one to spark some grouching: A first generation Veritech Fighter from Robotech (i.e. the kind Roy Fokker and Rick Hunter use); versus the Prototype Gundam from the original Gundam.
 

whitewhiskey

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#14
Afraid I don't know much about either series, Akun.

How about this...



Arsene Lupin III

Vs.

Carmen SanDiego

This wouldn't be a battle to the death, but a battle of skill as the two master thieves attempt to obtain the same item from a high security target.

Both are tricky, cunning and masters of their craft.

Carmen may have the advantage in technology and numbers, as the gadgets she uses are incredibly advanced and she has been seen employing a large array of subordinates, but most of her subordinates are either extremely specialized and/or very small time crooks. Plus, Carmen tends to work alone on her heists more often than not, meaning there's probably a bare minimum working relationship between her and her cohorts.

On the other hand, while his team may be outnumbered and out gunned, they have a much better team dynamic from having worked together for so long, and all are quite crafty, in addition to Lupin's own skill and tendency to think outside the box.
 

Fellgrave

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#15
Tough call. I'd have to give it Carmen though, if only because she's a hot chick.

Next challenge: Kefka (FFVI) vs. Obito/Tobi.
 

whitewhiskey

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#16
Oh, tough one.

I think I'd have to go with TObito on this one. Both of them got god-mode power-ups, but only Kefka was defeated while still holding his. Kefa was literally a god and still got killed. TObito was only defeated when his power was removed and because of his own doubts. Otherwise, he was neigh unstoppable.
 

Franchise

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#17
Carmen would win for the simple reason that she has access to time travel and is smart enough to use it properly.

Hmm...Kefka? Obito? Kefka? Obito? I'll call it a tie on account of the world being completely wiped out from existence due to their powers clashing
 

whitewhiskey

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#18
Franchise said:
Carmen would win for the simple reason that she has access to time travel and is smart enough to use it properly.
Let's say no time travel because I mean more like the animated series than the game shows.

Time Travel is kinda broken.
 

Nanya

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#19
I got one for you...

Gannondorf vs Dracula (Castlevania)
 

whitewhiskey

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#20
Well, I kinda gotta go more with Gannondorf, as he seems to have a greater range of abilities and powers, plus his Triforce could loosely count as a holy relic, making him more effective against a vampire.
 

Fellgrave

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#21
Hmm, I think I'd go with Gannondorf, since he has magic, might, no morals, and a dangerous mind at his disposal. I mean, look at his plan in Ocarina of Time. That takes serious mental capabilities to plot out.

A new challenger appears!

Albert Wesker vs. Arthas Menethil. Assume both have full access to their organization's resources for the battle.
 
#22
Arthas wins, because the Scourge just takes over any zombies that Umbrella throws at them. This gets even sillier if it's Arthas *the Lich King* and not just Arthas Menethil, Death Knight.

Or do you mean from before he turned? Because Wesker wins that one, hands down. Arthas was a shitty paladin and Wesker could probably turn him to the dark side with the offer of a fruitcake or something.
 

whitewhiskey

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#23
Hardcore Heathen said:
Arthas wins, because the Scourge just takes over any zombies that Umbrella throws at them. This gets even sillier if it's Arthas *the Lich King* and not just Arthas Menethil, Death Knight.

Or do you mean from before he turned? Because Wesker wins that one, hands down. Arthas was a shitty paladin and Wesker could probably turn him to the dark side with the offer of a fruitcake or something.
But do T-virus zombies count as dead when it comes to necromancy? IIRC, the T-virus reanimated the tissues, making them, in a way, alive, allowing them to grow, spread and mutate, so they aren't technically corpses, and may be immune to control by Necromancy.
 

akun50

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#24
Carmen vs. Lupin: I give it to Lupin, honestly. Carmen's constantly dropping clues as to where she is. For her, it has always seemed less about the actual theft (which I'm guessing is so boring for her that it's why she even leaves clues) and more about the fun of the hunt. It's my headcanon that she's only able to achieve orgasm from being a few steps ahead of a detective.

If anything, Carmen might even come in to deliberately distract the police away from Lupin just for her own jollies. And to be fair, Lupin and crew are usually caught out by Zenigata, so if he's not around, they're sure to win.

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Kefka/Obito: I honestly haven't kept up with Naruto, but I get the feeling Kefka would win if only because he never doubted himself.

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Gannondorf/Dracula: Sadly, I think Gannon takes it for the same reason whitewhiskey listed. On top of that, Gannondorf actually had a chance to win according to canon.

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Arthas/Wesker: Arthas. I'm sorry, but given how much damage that a paladin, death knight or shaman can take; the fact that the Scourge are magical and the fact that Arthas' minions can mind control.... I think Arthas' armies, even pre-Lich King, will stomp a mudhole in the T-virus zombies. Hell, even the Plagas would be useless. As for the main event of Wesker vs. Arthas, I don't think Wesker has any sort of immunity to magic; while Arthas, in all stages, would have resistances and immunities to a lot of what Wesker can do.

Paladin!Arthas has his Bubble-Shield and healing magic. This would be Wesker's best chance at beating Arthas, as people have mentioned that Arthas wasn't a very good paladin. Even so, Arthas had the strength and stamina to slaughter most of a town AND take on a demon by himself, and was able to wield a rather massive hammer for multiple extended engagements. Wesker's extreme strength and speed are his two defining points in most of the scenes with him, but given that Arthas' magic and armor would significantly diminish his efforts, unless he hulks out immediately, Paladin!Arthas still stands a solid chance of victory.

Death Knight!Arthas has his blood shield, magical diseases and ability to summon new minions to help him. On top of that, he can sacrifice his minions to heal himself. Even if Wesker is able to shut down most of the minions, his strength and stamina would wane with Arthas able to constantly sap him with magical diseases. All in all, I would say Wesker's chances at defeating Arthas wanes significantly at this point.

Lich King!Arthas can summon legions of various undead, including the flying spectral val'kyr; has a shitton of ice, corruption and disease magic, not to mention a never-miss insta-pull ability with Death Grip; and would definitely insta-paste Wesker with his Wrath of the Lich King ability. Wesker would stand no chance.
 

whitewhiskey

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#25
Master Chief

Vs.

Gordon Freeman

Okay, MC is a super-soldier with incredibly resistant armor, a master of almost every weapon he can get.

Freeman is a scientist with a sharp mind and weapons that can be considered horrific and whose use can be thought of as crimes against humanity.

Who Would Win?

I'm not too sure on this one, but i don't think it would automatically be MC like some may believe.

Even if Freeman has a limit on the number of weapons he can use, he still can have the Gluon Gun and the freakin' Tau Canon, either of which may well be able to pierce even MC's armor and shield, the latter through sheer force and the former simply destabilizing it on the most basic levels.
 
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