Why is it unregistered people cannot see posts?

BakaNeko

Well-Known Member
#76
Invision's disk quota was his reason for that shit? :jawdrop:

Was shinji's forum that active? Or was it mismanagement? Like not restricting avatars, attachements and what not?



@Bluezone777, as near as I can tell, each person who makes a forum is assigned an amount of disk space on Invision's sever for their forum. Posts, avatars, attachments and other things hosted by Invision will add to that.
 
#77
BakaNeko said:
Invision's disk quota was his reason for that shit? :jawdrop:

Was shinji's forum that active? Or was it mismanagement? Like not restricting avatars, attachements and what not?



@Bluezone777, as near as I can tell, each person who makes a forum is assigned an amount of disk space on Invision's sever for their forum. Posts, avatars, attachments and other things hosted by Invision will add to that.
the only thing disk space deals with is uploaded files like avatars and uploaded images via post form. if it gets full he can either clean it out of uploaded images or pay for the disk space. but really you can upload images to photobucket and like services and use those images for avatars instead. there really is no need to upload any images to the forum unless you were uploading images for a custom skin.

posts on their own mean nothing and have nothing to do with that. Shinji was a piss poor admin who went on the warpath deleting anyone and everyone who wasn't good enough or a "threat" to him and his board or just was say a friend of such persons. I rather not see Hawk follow his footsteps because that deleting thing he did ruined his board and I rather not see someone else do the same. you got a board here that most people I know would be jealous of.

I should know because I was one of the first to get deleted and banned from there simply because I was a member of the Dark Icon Writers when it was Dimitri that he had ALL the issues with and no one else.
 
#78
Shinji-the-good-sharer is a moron, and he ruined his own board with his paranoia and stupid rules. He was registered here at one point, but his account seems to have been deleted even to the name being taken off the membership list. Good riddance to bad rubbish.
 

PCHeintz72

The Sentient Fanfic Search Engine mk II
#79
nuclear death frog said:
Shinji-the-good-sharer is a moron, and he ruined his own board with his paranoia and stupid rules. He was registered here at one point, but his account seems to have been deleted even to the name being taken off the membership list. Good riddance to bad rubbish.
Well... to date, it is the only forum *I* ever recieved a true actual warning from anyone on (not counting a sort of joke one by Thermopyle on Anifics once). It lasted a year.

Thing is, he insisted he had given me notices by email beforehand on it, but if so, I never.

I still am uncertain exactly what it was I was suppsoed to have done, but oh well...

As for the implementation of frequent cutting of users over there, that was just something he personally did. Not anything by Invision.

Every so often, he would go through the list of users, and delete those not having contributed within a period of time. The Lemon forum on his site was available only to 'writers', not members who emailed him.

As for his account here, that was very recent that he deleted it, it seems it was almost immediately after he did an omake for a story here that no one liked and several had some harsh comments on.
 

BakaNeko

Well-Known Member
#81
Can we remove ourselves? I have never seen a delete/unmembership option for a forum.
 

Dartz_IRL

Well-Known Member
#82
BakaNeko said:
Can we remove ourselves? I have never seen a delete/unmembership option for a forum.
Some SMF simple machines forums have that feature. Well, EFO and DS do anyway. I have many times considered clicking, just for the hell of it...
 

runestar

Well-Known Member
#83
BakaNeko said:
Invision's disk quota was his reason for that shit? :jawdrop:

Was shinji's forum that active? Or was it mismanagement? Like not restricting avatars, attachements and what not?



@Bluezone777, as near as I can tell, each person who makes a forum is assigned an amount of disk space on Invision's sever for their forum. Posts, avatars, attachments and other things hosted by Invision will add to that.
Please...even at its supposed prime (before all the weird-ass banning started), posts were definitely no more than a mere fraction of what we have here (Innortal was about the only person posting updates on a regular basis). He has only his own anal-retentive behaviour to blame. I myself got a 3-day ban just for pointing out an inconsistency in one of his posts. Never bothered logging back in. <_<
 

Hawk

Well-Known Member
#84
Hmm... I was under the impression that Hawk banhammered him...
Nah, then he'd be on the wall of shame. He requested an account deletion and gave me cause for more then a few chuckles as I read that request and the reasoning for it, but if he wants his account deleted, then hey. Account deleted.
 

MannequinMuse

Well-Known Member
#85
Hawk said:
It hasn't been frowned upon so far, since I've been far to lazy to do anything about it and it's worked well enough as is. ( Not broken? Don't fix. )

But TFF wasn't created to be a fanfiction archive available to everyone, it's meant to be a prereading tool for writers and a think tank for fanfiction ideas.

The payoff for everyone who isn't a writer, is getting to see shit in the raw, sometimes weeks or months ( Or in my case, even longer then that. *innocent whistle* Lazy bugger, yeahyeah, I know... ) before it's out elsewhere in a more completed form. Another form of payoff, is that some cool idea might be adopted and actually turned from idea into fanfiction by some writer who think that the idea is the best thing since sliced bread.

The tradeoff? Commenting, nitpicking and generally providing the writers with help in finalizing, correcting and finishing their stuff.

Getting the payoff for free? Not so cool in my book... If all that interests somebody is to read stuff, then they can bloody wait until final release on an actual fanfiction archive and not waste bandwidth here.

Some sort of criteria for what constitutes a lurker ( and criteria for what constitutes a fake who posts only to not be labeled a lurker... ), will likely require a fair bit of thought and quite a bit of case-to-case judgement, as well as a version upgrade of the forum software.

Zetaboards has some very nice features, including the ability to quickly and efficiently sort through all the posts a member has made during a specific time period. With that, all that's needed is like five seconds to see if somebody posts something that's actually contributing something to a discussion or if it's just 'Booh-hoo, I do not want to get kickbanned for being a lurker so I am posting pointless stuff'-posts.

However, with so many members, it's still something that'd likely take forever to actually do, especially considering how likely I am to laze about doing something completely different. :)
Amen
 
#86
Well I guess I've been a lurker, this is actually the third time I logged on here, Can't remember why I logged on here the first time think it was a discussion about the writers on the forum I was on then and the second time was when Runestar pointed out I had an idea that seemed similar to an Idea posted here. I actually totally forgot about this place untill Bluezone was kind enough to point it out in a little chat this morning ^^
 

WarGiver

Well-Known Member
#87
I defiantly agree with the leniency to the lurker stance, when I first joined I will admit that it was to just read fics before they were posted, but that being said it was the author that specifically requested I did. And I will admit it took time but I am a writer that posts here now. So I fully believe that punishing "new" lurkers is a bad idea. But I also agree that if someone was a lurker for a year with no posts or only a few "OMG MOR PLZ" type posts then they probably are not likely to be useful. This is TFF and not FF.net, if we writers wanted that kind of praise we would post to ff.net.

And about Shinji... I was a writer who posted sporadically to his forum and still got booted. Now his forum is almost memberless and almost every thread was deleted... so yeah, a light hand from the mod is always preferable imo when we all can be mature... errr... rather not be a bunch of little kids yelling and screaming at each other... not too sure about the mature part at times, but then again its all fun and imo that is what matters.

Basically I am just saying that Hawk is doing a good job through inaction when necessary and I am sure any action he takes will be the right one too. (Sides if a few do get kicked I doubt anyone would actually notice aside from the kickee)
 

daniel_gudman

KING (In Land of Blind)
Staff member
#88
This is a hell of a Necro, but... well, I think that's less of an issue in this particular sub-forum, and even then I feel like I gotta represent myself.

Lurker without hope of redemption = Member for 12+ months without having posted a single thing
So, uh, my first post was in March of 2008, about 15 months after I registered. This is post #436 for me; hell, my self-appointed member title is "ex-lurker" right now.

I wrote a Christmas Special for this forum!

Maybe I'm one statistical outlier out of a sample size of 4000 or whatever, but... if you guys had trawled out the lurkers in February I wouldn't have come back; I wouldn't have participated in this forum.

Spam-prevention is one thing and I think this forum pretty much handles it well already. But, generally I feel "the more lurkers the better;" maybe it would be different if Hawk had to pay for us, but invision is free and I think the loss in speed is worth it just to have a big 'ol pool of members, some of whom (*ahem*) might become active contributors someday.
 
#89
I get where Hawk is coming from here, but I also think it's one of those things that would be hard to draw the line for. I'm sure a lot of lurkers come on here with the intent to just read... and then end up writing fic. For every lurker, there's an ex-lurker.

...But don't quote me on that statistic. :p
 
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