Nasuverse Wierd Idea

#1
This came to me after i finished watching this anime for the 10th time. Can the Fate Stay Night plot be mixed with the now completed HP series? If anyone wants to try this out tell me so I can read it! Please no Yaoi Like GenocideHeart I am about to abandon HP fanfics becuz of the overwhelming Yaoi content. :angel:
 

trevelyan1983

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#2
Uh... well, if you don't mind the fact that anything that doesn't have a Servant is gonna get owned, no questions asked, then I think the two might be compatible. But HP ain't my area of expertise, by an enormous margin. :hmm:
 
#3
We could use one of the oldest in the book. Open up a portal to the FSN universe and throw the main Character in it. :yay:
 

trevelyan1983

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#4
JackofDeath2445 said:
We could use one of the oldest in the book. Open up a portal to the FSN universe and throw the main Character in it. :yay:
Come now - that one was around before the book was even written. :lol:
 
#5
Exactly, who needs a complicated way to make a crossover. :D we just need a simple way to get someone there and the story instantly kicks off. Unless you want the complicated way and like relatives abandoning the main dude to Japan and thats how he got there. -_-
 

zeebee1

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#6
There's nothing that says they have to be in a different universe. The main hurdle is that the magic systems are so different. But the so called "Wizarding World" has basically put themselves in a position where they would probably deny all proof that other magic systems exist.
 
#7
In the HP series, its storyline is comnpletely concentrated in Europe. But it never showed the Eastern part of the world. So we can say that Hp's magic systems is basically just for Europeans. The Eastern part of the world is basically whatever the author put in.
 

Steel

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#8
Well, I know next to nothing about the Nasuverse. What I do know, however, is that most other magic systems are completely incompatible with the Nasuverse's magic system.
 
#9
:huh.: This is the reason why I say portal! Its much simpler then switching entire magic system. What do we know about magic system in the first place :huh.:
 

Fatuous One

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#10
JackofDeath2445 said:
In the HP series, its storyline is comnpletely concentrated in Europe. But it never showed the Eastern part of the world. So we can say that Hp's magic systems is basically just for Europeans. The Eastern part of the world is basically whatever the author put in.
Except, you know, the Nasuverse has its own magical organization based in Europe (London, to be exact).

And yes, Steel is correct in that the Nasuverse rarely meshes well with other magical systems. This is definitely one of those times, for oh-so-many reasons.

EDIT: Also, Portal plot devices... *sigh* That doesn't even fix the problem that Harry shouldn't then be able to use his magic, or wouldn't be able to use that places magic, or whatever. It doesn't work well.
 
#11
:headbanger: Then does anybody know how to fix this problem? :help: Couldn't we just kill off the entire HP system and replace it with the Nasuverse system?
 

bored

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#12
JackofDeath2445 said:
:headbanger: Then does anybody know how to fix this problem? :help:? Couldn't we just kill off the entire HP system and replace it with the Nasuverse system?
Maybe...
Neither of these are really my area of expertise but, aren't noble phantasms, at there most basic, just objects that have gained power because people believe they have that power? If so you could have wands be very minor noble phantasms, with people believing that they allow for easier casting of magic.

Another possibility is that wands only became required because of some kind of magical upheaval that was a side effect of the grail war. I am not entirely sure how this could be pulled off but it is one idea.

If nothing else, you could always have Harry Potter be summoned as Caster.
 

Fatuous One

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#14
Maybe...
Neither of these are really my area of expertise but, aren't noble phantasms, at there most basic, just objects that have gained power because people believe they have that power? If so you could have wands be very minor noble phantasms, with people believing that they allow for easier casting of magic.
Wha...?

Well, if you really dumb it down, yes. But that's kind of like saying that because Excalibur is famous and powerful (and people believe it), all swords should have the same power as it. It doesn't work like that.

At most, the wands would be conceptual weaponry (though, not really). Noble Phantasms are objects that can be described as 'crystalized mysteries', their singular fame is sort of what gives them their power... to a point anyway. It's much more complex than that.
 

Ray

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#15
Having Harry be summoned as Caster and letting good old suspension of disbelief play its part is about the only way it could work, IMO. That or the dimensional portal thing, with Harry's magic still working due to a mysterious, unexplained reason.
 

bored

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#16
Fatuous One said:
Maybe...
Neither of these are really my area of expertise but, aren't noble phantasms, at there most basic, just objects that have gained power because people believe they have that power? If so you could have wands be very minor noble phantasms, with people believing that they allow for easier casting of magic.
Wha...?

Well, if you really dumb it down, yes. But that's kind of like saying that because Excalibur is famous and powerful (and people believe it), all swords should have the same power as it. It doesn't work like that.

At most, the wands would be conceptual weaponry (though, not really). Noble Phantasms are objects that can be described as 'crystalized mysteries', their singular fame is sort of what gives them their power... to a point anyway. It's much more complex than that.
:huh.: Like I said, I don't know nearly enough about either system. It's the best idea I could come up with in two minutes that didn't involve a portal to another world. Anyway here is my reasoning:
The singularity may give noble phantasms the greater part of their power, but how powerful are wands really? It could be that all it requires to cast lower level spells with a wand is for the caster to believe that their wand is powerful and will work. That could be the reason for Ollivandor telling those who purchase wands from him all about their wand. As the wizard's reputation grows, others begin to believe that that wizard's wand is effective and thus it grows more powerful. I know it does not fit exactly into either magic system exactly, but for a basic idea for a crossover, I don't think it is too horrible.
Of course that could just be my lack of sleep talking. :huh.:
 

Mereo Flere

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#17
Harry would die faster than Shirou is killed.

And that's saying something.
 
#18
Or there is the way of him actually dying when he was one and Fate 'somehow' wanted to give him a second chance and it so happens that it when Kirei Kotomine touched the holy grail and Fate just put him there next to Shiro during the fire. Come on, if Fallen Heroes of the past appear becuz of the Grail's magic then why can't magic transport a kid there.
 

Ray

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#19
I'll expand that idea with a modified version:

Shirou is the reincarnation of Harry. It'd explain why he sucks so much at "conventional" sorcery.
 
#20
That could work, but what would be the point of that? True he's in Nasuverse, but he would only be known as Shiro. :hmm: Besides does anybody have the guts to write this and be not afraid to ger flamed?
 

Moshulel

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#21
Inter dimensional Magic is known as True magic in the Nasuverse, and Zeltrech is the one that uses it.

Regardless, mixing the two systems doesn't look so well in my view, they're just that different.

The singularity may give noble phantasms the greater part of their power, but how powerful are wands really? It could be that all it requires to cast lower level spells with a wand is for the caster to believe that their wand is powerful and will work.
I'm not going to develop on why this isn't exactly feasible, but how would you explain accidental magic in that case?
 

ttestagr

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#22
The past night was quite possibly the worst of his life.?

Learning Voldemort was in control of the Ministry was bad enough.? Witnessing Dumbledore's murder equally so.? But making him live through ground zero of an accident in the Department of Mystery, with something that altered the fabric of reality was an entirely new level of awful.

The amazing amount of pain suggested he was alive, as did the groans he could hear from Ron and Hermione.? Then again, he couldn't be sure since existance was quite possibly very different now.

And it would be entirely to much to hope that Voldemort killed himself in the middle of that brilliant disaster.

"Bloody hell, what happened."

Well, at least Ron was somewhat conscious.

With that, Harry opened his eyes and struggled to sit up.? The strangest sight froze him midway.

"Servant Saber.? Are you my master?"
Straight from the top of my head. Voldemort has made a complete fuckup and changed the way their universe works. As a side effect. Poor Harry.
 
#23
:mellow: Interesting, well at least its something rational. ^_^ But I prefer Rider as his servant. She's the hottest servant there is, Harry should deserve it seeing all the crap he's been through all his life. :snigger:
 

toraneko

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#24
Not going to touch into the mechanics of magic in HP vs. magic in Kinoko World, but I will say this: Having Arturia be the servant to an English boy like Harry would definitely be worth a few lulz, if handled correctly.
 
#25
yea.... If this story is actually written, would there be flames or praise? :blink:
Does anybody know a person who is willing and wants to write this story?
 
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