Wolvering : Impressions

biigoh

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#1
I've watched Wolverine... and I must say that I was impressed.

The opening sequence showed very well Victor and James' past together.

The black ops got a raised eye.

And Stryker was a complete idiot for speaking his plans in the same room where he just made his super soldier. Le sigh.

Also... I was pleased to see the nod to Silverfox. Althou, I was VERY surprised to see Emma Frost with her diamond skin and the fact that given the pick up the big X himself, she likely would have been a student at the school at about the same time as Scott Summers.

I must say that Wade Wilson/Deadpool is so very much a twinked out monstrosity. The kind that get derided as a Gary Sue in a Marvel fanfic... How many mutant powers did they stuff into him again? ^_^;
 

shinzero01

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#2
Honestly, I thought the movie sucked.
Agent Zero was okay. Blob was kinda funny. Wade was alright. Deadpool sucked. I hated their version of Gambit. Honestly seemed like Cyclops, Emma, and the others were just extras there for no reason other than to waste the cg budget. Same with 'Deadpool'. I thought he would've made a better Baraka for a mortal kombat movie.

Victor's pounces looked silly.
The dialogue was stilted. The fight between Gambit and Wolverine was just random.
The actor they chose for Gambit was subpar.

I really don't like saying it but I think Will.I.Am's character was one of the best in the movie.

Oh and you can never get enough bad puns.
 

GiantMonkeyMan

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#3
I thought the film was shite as well. The clips of the Howlett brothers fighting through different eras was pretty awesome but after that it just went downhill. The worst bit in the whole film was when Wraith and Sabertooth were fighting and Sabertooth says something like "Your problem is that you have become predictable." Then proceeds to kill him.

In my mind, all I could think was: "Well then, Sabertooth, why don't you just run forwards into bullets and pounce about like a faggot? That just shows how your century of warfare has made you into an unpredictable, incalcuable ninja. Hasn't it, you fucking moron."

Gambit was pretty poor as well. Accent was terrible and he had none of the charisma he is supposed to possess.
 

akun50

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#4
I ultimately thought it was stale.

I'll admit though that I have never really followed the X-men much, with exception of the 90's cartoon, so Wolverine and Sabertooth's apparent immortality was... lame, to say the least.

And frankly, I always thought Wolverine was much cooler when we only saw glimpses and hints at what he'd been through.
 

SoulGriever13

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#5
Very meh movie.

What they _should_ have done was to start it off with the whole bonding process and subsequent _massacre_ of the facility staff by Logan gone batshite-crazy, then worked from there. None of that 'bullet to the brain' stuff at the end to explain the amnesia in the X-men flicks either. Have him start the film already amnesiac, which they really should have kept from the comics, then serve flashbacks of the wars and Victor and maybe bits and pieces of the past at appropriately dramatic moments throughout the film.

Bah. Bah, I say.

-Griever
 

silentorphan

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#6
Too much Grant Morrison, not enough Barry Windsor-Smith. Still, considering the baggage Wolverine's dragging around from his comic books, you're probably not going to do any better without offending the licensor.

The fight choreography's not bad, though. But really, that sounds more like damning with faint praise than anything else.
 

goldenwolfeye

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#7
If this is supposed to be part of the movie's canon why doesn't Scott remember Wolverine in X-men the movie?

Or did i miss something?
 

nantukoprime

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#8
goldenwolfeye said:
If this is supposed to be part of the movie's canon why doesn't Scott remember Wolverine in X-men the movie?

Or did i miss something?
Beyond the fact he was blinded and young enough his impression of who saved him would be muffled by years. I think it still fits the movie trilogy's canon.

Not like Wolverine could remember from his side either.

My impression of the movie was that it was good action, relatively moderate story, but poor transitions hurt it. I also didn't like how they presented Deadpool, but could accept it as from just the movie perspective it could be understood by the audience.

I did like how they presented Wade himself, and Blob.

The scene at the end was nice, but I was half expecting Samuel L. Jackson in the final scene. Since they have kept rather mum about which Avenger Team they are running with. The movie line up gives some big hints, but there are plenty of chars within those movies that were part of the Avengers.
 

mario_zx

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#9
Ehh... I thought it was okay. Some of things could have been better, especially the fight with deadpool, and gambit was basically marginalized. The bullet to the head at the end was the stupidest way to give wolverine amnesia, but that's about the only gripes I had with the movie, although I wished I stayed after the credits to see the special deadpool scene.
 

Ordo

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#10
Okay, IÆd say that from the beginning of the movie to the point where Logan & Wraith arrive in New Orleans were the best parts of the film. After that it take a bit of nose dive as there are some poor transitions and a generally rushed feel to the end. ItÆs kind of like the game of this movie, good fun with a solid story and characterizations marred by a lack of polish.

I loved Wade when we first saw him, and I am more than willing to watch in a full length movie centered around his character. We already have an actor to play Wade we just need a good director. To be fair I do feel that the director of æWolverineÆ could handle a Deadpool movie. The director had a few missteps but overall he id a solid job and managed to work in a fair amount of comedy without it feeling forced.

The guy playing Gambit needs to work on his Creole accent but aside from that he did a competent if not spectacular job.

Overall IÆd say X-men Origins: Wolverin getÆs a B-.
 

Voivod

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#11
... I feel like a fucking idiot. I was stuggling to make it through the movie, but I never realized the whole Deadpool/Wade connection wow.

It had some decent parts but i generally agree with the general census most people have of suckage. I hope the Orgins: Magneto is a lot better
 

Sect

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#12
You guys know that, in the comics, Deadpool's gonna want eyelasers now, right?

Bonus points if he has the "Mikuru Biiimu!" thing going.

Anyways, interesting go, but fell short on multiple fronts. The way Logan got amnesia was lame, they fucked with Deadpool too much (the eyelasers... wow, and them putting in armblades was an incredibly incredibly stupid idea, considering that it meant he would have to be retrained from the bottom up. I found them sealing his mouth shut to be hilarious, though), too many cameos for the sake of cameos (what was the point of Emma Frost, unless they wanted to make another X-Men spinoff? Also, Patrick Stewart's cameo looked REALLY wonky, and Gambit had a habit of being, well, stupid)...

I like Logan's and Victor's shared history, though, and Ryan Reynolds was a good choice for Deadpool (minus the whole goofy Baraka thing), and Spectre was rather interesting. Stryker just seemed to have a good grip on the Idiot Ball in this movie, though.

EDIT: Oh, forgot to mention this: now they have a PERFECT reason as to why Wade's fucking crazy. I'd love to see a movie based around him, where he's fucking around a la Fight Club.
 
#13
It seems that with 'Wolverine' and 'Watchmen' the Directors are learning how to create good history montages... at the beginning... now we just need to wait until they learn how to make a good comic book movie... or just ask them to see 'Spiderman 2,' 'Ironman' or 'The Dark Knight' to learn how to make a good comic book movie.

How many of you want to bet that the Magneto movie will have a history montage at the beginning? and how many want to bet that Wolverine and/or Captain America appear on it?

All said, I liked the movie but it needed more work. I didn't mind the cameos (I prefer that to Original Movie Characters any day of the week) but they needed to be better thought. DeadPool was a miss but can be savaged if they give him his own movie or he appears in the sequel (and this movie had wait for a sequel written all over it).
 
#17
With 20th Century Fox heading the Deadpool movie? I'm not holding my breath. The only way that I'll really stick with a Deadpool movie is if they put in his power to break the fourth wall. That'll make me wanna see it. Another Wolverine movie, I'm impartial to.
 

yakumo fujii

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#18
So, the Civil War battle, I'm thinking that was Antietam, given the charge across a cornfield.
 

Lord Raine

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#19
RockLeeTheAwesome said:
With 20th Century Fox heading the Deadpool movie? I'm not holding my breath. The only way that I'll really stick with a Deadpool movie is if they put in his power to break the fourth wall. That'll make me wanna see it. Another Wolverine movie, I'm impartial to.
They will. Ryan said that he's put his foot completely down on it. The only issue is how they're going to pull it off neatly while in movie format.


Also, I just saw the movie. Personally, I liked it. I thought that the movie was kind of a U shape in regards to fun. It started awesome, the middle was meh, but the end sloped back up into awesome again.

And I like what they did with Deadpool. It's always been a personal pet peeve that in all the comics I've read, no one ever tried to combine mutant powers. Supercharge them or make them better, yes. But never create hybrid supermutants. Maybe there's some run out there that does do that, but if there is, I've never seen it.

This scratches that very, very deep itch of mine. Because honestly, if I was in Weapon X or HYDRA, and I was allowed to experiment, that's what I would be doing. I'll leave building better mutants to the other people. I'd focus on combining them. You've got someone who shoots lasers, and you've got someone who can turn themselves into a living gem. So why not combine them, and create someone who can use their own body as a refracting lens?

Combine a teleporter with an augmented close range combantant. Combine psychic powers with augmented physical capabilities to create supersoldier templates. And so forth, and so on.

So yeah. I'm happy with it.
 
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