Akamatsuverse A Certian Scientific Ronin
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If this was played straight? He probably wouldn't be much more durable than your average guy. Albeit in near-top physical shape, but the "invulnerability" is fanon, and is just a means for slapstick violence. I mean, when was the last time you saw a comedy protagonist get blown up by missiles, megaton punches and boulder-destroying sword attacks? It's just narrative convention. In this setting he wouldn't be invulnerabe.
The idea though, was that the super resiatance to damage was actually real.
Even if the manga, his durability was fairly extreme. When seta, for example, would suffer simular attacks there was always punty of blood or injury.
Keitaro, otoh, was rarely effected. So it's not just fanon, if it's actually supported by events in the manga in question. I think the Us version of the manga even points it out a few times.
Not to mention, the story idea was that this level of super-durability was indeed an esper ability or gemstone ability or such.
Even if the manga, his durability was fairly extreme. When seta, for example, would suffer simular attacks there was always punty of blood or injury.
Keitaro, otoh, was rarely effected. So it's not just fanon, if it's actually supported by events in the manga in question. I think the Us version of the manga even points it out a few times.
Not to mention, the story idea was that this level of super-durability was indeed an esper ability or gemstone ability or such.
Too many issues with mashing Akamatsuverse with Indexverse, and you already asked about mage population in Negima so yeah, massive headache right there.
Magic in Indexverse is based on symbolism, chanelling, and the mages in it are very much like classical casters, meaning they are frail physically, no fancy body boosting for supernatural strength and speed.
Negiverse mages are pretty much the opposite, magic is ridiculous compared to Index magic, age pills, pactio system, kung fu mages, unassisted flight/levitation, flying on a staff, and so on.
You would have to change TAMNI into slapstick of Negima/LH, which would be a massive pain, while going the other way you would have to debuff Negima mages a lot.
I found your esper power levels on the cast slightly irritating, too many casual high level distributions on them, then you need reasons for them even being in Academy City and on the esper development program, I mean, you could explain it for some of them for basically scholaship schooling, but then Keitaro can't be a drop out, Kaolla would be on "do not approach" list along with Touma for the darker side, and so on.
There is a lot of things to work with if you want a serious crossover.
Magic in Indexverse is based on symbolism, chanelling, and the mages in it are very much like classical casters, meaning they are frail physically, no fancy body boosting for supernatural strength and speed.
Negiverse mages are pretty much the opposite, magic is ridiculous compared to Index magic, age pills, pactio system, kung fu mages, unassisted flight/levitation, flying on a staff, and so on.
You would have to change TAMNI into slapstick of Negima/LH, which would be a massive pain, while going the other way you would have to debuff Negima mages a lot.
I found your esper power levels on the cast slightly irritating, too many casual high level distributions on them, then you need reasons for them even being in Academy City and on the esper development program, I mean, you could explain it for some of them for basically scholaship schooling, but then Keitaro can't be a drop out, Kaolla would be on "do not approach" list along with Touma for the darker side, and so on.
There is a lot of things to work with if you want a serious crossover.
Ok, so we drop negiverse style mages, but keep say, the martial artists. Simplifies the cross a ton.
As for power levels, I figured it was a logarithmic scale of sorts. a 4 is an order of magnitude higher then a 3 for example, who is an order above a 2. The only named lv 1 in all the indexverse is Uriharu, and she can just keep part of something warm or cold.
Naru for example, I figured would almost be a 5, except she can't dial her ability in terms of consistent accuracy.
Someone like Su is a challenge though, but I'd put her at a 3 or so. She's already shown that she can learn other languages, and is a brilliant engineer even before her ability comes into play. I mean shit, she builds a positron canon in the manga, man sized, just to fight Tsuruko.
As for power levels, I figured it was a logarithmic scale of sorts. a 4 is an order of magnitude higher then a 3 for example, who is an order above a 2. The only named lv 1 in all the indexverse is Uriharu, and she can just keep part of something warm or cold.
Naru for example, I figured would almost be a 5, except she can't dial her ability in terms of consistent accuracy.
Someone like Su is a challenge though, but I'd put her at a 3 or so. She's already shown that she can learn other languages, and is a brilliant engineer even before her ability comes into play. I mean shit, she builds a positron canon in the manga, man sized, just to fight Tsuruko.
Level 4s tend to be control freaks, and there is a level 5 who lacks control. It's the very issue you claimed would hold back Naru, too much power for proper control. On the other hand resurrection is actually a level 0 just because it doesn't always work.
The power scale you're using just isn't believable.
The power scale you're using just isn't believable.
Based on what though? Are they underpowered for the level or overpowered? maybe I have too many lv 3's?
Remember it breaks down something like this:
Keitaro:, Adamantcy, lv 0-1
Naru: Force Amplification, lv 4
Su Machine Empathy, 3:
Sarah: no idea. I'm thinking maybe lv 1 at best, if that.
Shinobu: no idea, probabaly lv 1, 2 at best.
Kitsune: Push, lv 3:
Motoko: Wind Blade/Wind buffer lv 3 or 4:
Kanako: lv 3-4: depending on what exactly fuels who ability to change appearance, ie is it physical or just visual/audio.
Shiri/Hitani: no idea, probably nothing major.
NAru's the only definite 4, while Motoko and Kanako are probably high 3's working toward a 4. Su and Kitsune are probably stuck at 3, while shinobu is a newbie to all this as is Sarah, whose probably a 0.
I don't see those being too unreasonable judging by what the anime's power levels seem to reflect. I remember one episode of railgun, IIRC, where it showed girls being tested, and accuracy and power seemed to go hand in hand in determining level ranking.
Remember it breaks down something like this:
Keitaro:, Adamantcy, lv 0-1
Naru: Force Amplification, lv 4
Su Machine Empathy, 3:
Sarah: no idea. I'm thinking maybe lv 1 at best, if that.
Shinobu: no idea, probabaly lv 1, 2 at best.
Kitsune: Push, lv 3:
Motoko: Wind Blade/Wind buffer lv 3 or 4:
Kanako: lv 3-4: depending on what exactly fuels who ability to change appearance, ie is it physical or just visual/audio.
Shiri/Hitani: no idea, probably nothing major.
NAru's the only definite 4, while Motoko and Kanako are probably high 3's working toward a 4. Su and Kitsune are probably stuck at 3, while shinobu is a newbie to all this as is Sarah, whose probably a 0.
I don't see those being too unreasonable judging by what the anime's power levels seem to reflect. I remember one episode of railgun, IIRC, where it showed girls being tested, and accuracy and power seemed to go hand in hand in determining level ranking.
How would you explain that Keitaros girls are all high level espers? Especially someone like Mitsune, Naru a level 4 esper, seriously?
Let's not even mention Motoko getting into esper development, whatever for would she go into that when she already can use ki/chi in her art.
And this casual treatment of level 5s as some random powers makes me lol so hard.
Level 5s are rated by their general usability to Aleister:
1. Acellerator - Particle acceleration and manipulation is his forte, though at lower levels, so he can only do lesser things, like firing off things into atoms, flight, impervious to everything of this dimension, and even foreign to this dimension once he "partially awakens". Mixing in with magic subsystem he was able to match Hyouka and Gabriel.
2. Dark Matter - He wasn't shown much, since he pathetically finished in a fridge trying to become no.1. His remains now generate dark matter for various applications by Aleister.
3. Misaka Mikoto - Used for making of Misaka network, which serves for multiple AIM applications, the level 6 experiment was actually just a cover up for it.
She can manipulate electronic and magnetic forces, softer applications include reading electronic data as well as hacking/accessing electronic hardware without any hardware but her own power, has a personal radar field around herself, which also serves to block other things, like mental atacks. She can also magnetize herself to surfaces that are appropriate for that. And she can also fly by using surrounding water and stuff, can't remember what they are called now.
Offensive applications include lighting blasts, both directional and area of effect ones, creation of magnetic sand vibro blades which she can also lob at distance and control their trajectory, and then there is her trademark railgun, which she can use to varying levels. Railgun anime showed her firing off a large piece of hardware as her ammo, and some say that filler was approved by the author, but it is unknown.
She can even read memory, but she keeps away from that, well, mostly.
4. Mugino Shizuri - Breaks electrons down to fire beams or use the energy for shields, a bit of a mental case, burnt out arm in uncontrolled burst of her own power.
5. Shokuhou Misaki - Mentioned in passing by Mikoto as one of possible people she could go to to help Touma with his memory problem, but discarded her as someone she doesn't trust people around, as shown in Railgun manga. She is a telepath, she was shown to use a remote which she uses in some as of yet unexplained manner to manipulate her power to mentaly freeze masses of people, as well as alter their mental states.
6. Unknown
7. Sogiita Gunha - who is actually a gemstone aka naturally born esper, he is 7th due to his power being a bit of a wildcard. A lot of guts and shouting is involved in all applications of his power. Powerwise he could reach epic levels as noted by one of the strongest mages in story.
All the lower levels are kept at various levels according to usability as well, as some are useless or don't have that much potential anyway.
Hina girls would be mostly at max level 3 espers, and only some, and then there is the actual reason for them even being in the esper development program, Keitaro could be easily sent there as a gemstone with his high damage resistance.
Su has magical transformation during the red moon, she is incompatible with esper development program, unless you want her to end up dead fast?
Let's not even mention Motoko getting into esper development, whatever for would she go into that when she already can use ki/chi in her art.
And this casual treatment of level 5s as some random powers makes me lol so hard.
Level 5s are rated by their general usability to Aleister:
1. Acellerator - Particle acceleration and manipulation is his forte, though at lower levels, so he can only do lesser things, like firing off things into atoms, flight, impervious to everything of this dimension, and even foreign to this dimension once he "partially awakens". Mixing in with magic subsystem he was able to match Hyouka and Gabriel.
2. Dark Matter - He wasn't shown much, since he pathetically finished in a fridge trying to become no.1. His remains now generate dark matter for various applications by Aleister.
3. Misaka Mikoto - Used for making of Misaka network, which serves for multiple AIM applications, the level 6 experiment was actually just a cover up for it.
She can manipulate electronic and magnetic forces, softer applications include reading electronic data as well as hacking/accessing electronic hardware without any hardware but her own power, has a personal radar field around herself, which also serves to block other things, like mental atacks. She can also magnetize herself to surfaces that are appropriate for that. And she can also fly by using surrounding water and stuff, can't remember what they are called now.
Offensive applications include lighting blasts, both directional and area of effect ones, creation of magnetic sand vibro blades which she can also lob at distance and control their trajectory, and then there is her trademark railgun, which she can use to varying levels. Railgun anime showed her firing off a large piece of hardware as her ammo, and some say that filler was approved by the author, but it is unknown.
She can even read memory, but she keeps away from that, well, mostly.
4. Mugino Shizuri - Breaks electrons down to fire beams or use the energy for shields, a bit of a mental case, burnt out arm in uncontrolled burst of her own power.
5. Shokuhou Misaki - Mentioned in passing by Mikoto as one of possible people she could go to to help Touma with his memory problem, but discarded her as someone she doesn't trust people around, as shown in Railgun manga. She is a telepath, she was shown to use a remote which she uses in some as of yet unexplained manner to manipulate her power to mentaly freeze masses of people, as well as alter their mental states.
6. Unknown
7. Sogiita Gunha - who is actually a gemstone aka naturally born esper, he is 7th due to his power being a bit of a wildcard. A lot of guts and shouting is involved in all applications of his power. Powerwise he could reach epic levels as noted by one of the strongest mages in story.
All the lower levels are kept at various levels according to usability as well, as some are useless or don't have that much potential anyway.
Hina girls would be mostly at max level 3 espers, and only some, and then there is the actual reason for them even being in the esper development program, Keitaro could be easily sent there as a gemstone with his high damage resistance.
Su has magical transformation during the red moon, she is incompatible with esper development program, unless you want her to end up dead fast?
If su is not as esper, but rather just a straight engineer, that could simplify things as well I suppose.
As for Motoko, Her ability could replace her Chi, else she would basically be introducing her own blend of magic like attacks to the universe, and i'm not sure how to make that work with index verse magical principles. How would Alister react to someone who has esper level abilities, but isn't an esper?
This could likewise effect Kanako as well, given she has shown a few oddities in her martial arts as well. Nothing as extreme as motoko though, so she could still be one. If she was sent there before him it could serve as a plot element or two.
And yes, Naru would be a lv 4, given the power of her ability. If Aero hand is a lv 4, then this could easily qualify as well.
As for them being in the problem? Because thats the point of the fic. Seriously, do we have to justify basic plot elements now? I figure they would be there for the same reason most any of the cast of the raildex universe is.
As for Motoko, Her ability could replace her Chi, else she would basically be introducing her own blend of magic like attacks to the universe, and i'm not sure how to make that work with index verse magical principles. How would Alister react to someone who has esper level abilities, but isn't an esper?
This could likewise effect Kanako as well, given she has shown a few oddities in her martial arts as well. Nothing as extreme as motoko though, so she could still be one. If she was sent there before him it could serve as a plot element or two.
And yes, Naru would be a lv 4, given the power of her ability. If Aero hand is a lv 4, then this could easily qualify as well.
As for them being in the problem? Because thats the point of the fic. Seriously, do we have to justify basic plot elements now? I figure they would be there for the same reason most any of the cast of the raildex universe is.
If Keitaro is a gemstone, his power lv could be purposely wrong, to try to keep him off grid. Likewise, it could be like touma where it just doesn't read correctly.
Ether way, as it becomes more and more obvious just how much damage he can survive, I think that would become something of a plot point.
Plus, unless he takes damage, it's not obvious how strong his ability is. I don't think Naru would go around hitting hi full strength, for fear of killing him.
If I wrote this, I would not use Fanon/anime style Keitaro flights, but rather the much more reserved attacks seen in the manga, for the most part.
Ether way, as it becomes more and more obvious just how much damage he can survive, I think that would become something of a plot point.
Plus, unless he takes damage, it's not obvious how strong his ability is. I don't think Naru would go around hitting hi full strength, for fear of killing him.
If I wrote this, I would not use Fanon/anime style Keitaro flights, but rather the much more reserved attacks seen in the manga, for the most part.