A Memory of Light

seitora

seitora

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No, it hasn't actually released yet.

Reading Brandon Sanderson's twitter account, though, his 'completionness' rate that he gives has jumped from 40% two weeks ago to 48% a couple of days ago. Assuming a similar rate of 4% a week it would take 13 weeks to finish it off for him (it's his primary project right now), plus a month for editing, then probably a month for promotion, so February or March sounds like a possibility by now.

I can barely wait D:
 
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Archanon

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I think he usually goes past the 100% bar for the WoT books... and then there's the preliminary edit bar... and then the secondary one...

It'll be awhile.
 
Ordo

Ordo

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Well, there's his own Warbreaker, The Way of Kings, Mistborn, and soon The Alloy of Law to tied you over so not all is lost.
 
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atlas_hugged

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It's gonna be so weird after this one, not having another too look forward to or speculate about.
 
nuclear death frog

nuclear death frog

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seitora said:
No, it hasn't actually released yet.

Reading Brandon Sanderson's twitter account, though, his 'completionness' rate that he gives has jumped from 40% two weeks ago to 48% a couple of days ago. Assuming a similar rate of 4% a week it would take 13 weeks to finish it off for him (it's his primary project right now), plus a month for editing, then probably a month for promotion, so February or March sounds like a possibility by now.

I can barely wait D:
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It won't be out that quickly. The book is expected to be well over 200 thousand words, so figure at least three or four months for editing, and then a few months to prepare it for publication. Plus, he has to finish rereading the series as he goes along to make sure that every remaining necessary plotline gets resolved somehow. If it comes out before mid-2012 I will be surprised. Late 2012 is more likely, possibly even some time into 2013.
 
seitora

seitora

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You're assuming that his percentage count includes all of RJ's material that is still in the book.

And even if it is, Sanderson's still a fast writer. He's managed two full-length books a year for the last few years, with Towers of Midnight only coming a year after The Gathering Storm.
 
nuclear death frog

nuclear death frog

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The reason that "Towers" came out only a year following "Storm" is because of how it was decided to cut the book. He wrote something like 400,000 words initially, and eventually Tor decided to cut it into thirds, and asked him to cut out a ~225,000 word section of that roughly 400K. He gave them about 275,000 words as an initial cut, and that was eventually brought up to about 300,000 -- which is what became "Storm". Then he still had a lot of remaining, unedited material of that initial 400K or so, much of which went into "Towers", along with more.

Even if he finished the first draft of "AMoL" literally tomorrow, it is not physically possible for it to be out in 2011. Editing, and then publication work, just will take much longer than you think.
 
seitora

seitora

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Maybe so.

But don't you think that if it looked to be inevitable that the release date was pushed back again, that Sanderson would've mentioned so on his twitter or blogfeed? He was the one who made the original March estimate. That he hasn't said a thing about pushing back the deadline for the release (and he put the progress bar at 52% yesterday) makes me confident.
 
nuclear death frog

nuclear death frog

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He said that was pretty much the minimum. It's easier to think it will be pushed back than that it will come out more quickly, since in between now and then he would have to write at least 48% more -- 100% on his progress bars can also mean that he has gotten to the end of what he originally estimated to be the required length but still needs more work -- while having to take days off for book touring and other events. Yes, it *could* comes out in March 2012 or so, but to do that, it would have to be finished by roughly mid-October at the very latest, perhaps earlier, and I just don't think that's likely at all. Editing, binding, and printing a hefty book takes a lot longer than most people realize.

$0.02
 
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atlas_hugged

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So, you guys mind if I WMG?

So I'm thinking the horn of Valere needs to be present at the last battle for one reason: Rand will die there. And the horn, upon being blown by a desperate Mat, will bring him back. That's a pretty tame WMG, but I think that Avhiendha's children were viewed to be strange by Min, because they will be conceived in TAR, or perhaps someone will bring Rand back by bonding him a fourth time after the end (since that seems to be how Brigette was brought back), and that will result in strange children for Avi.

Where do you guys stand on how it will end? Will Rand find a way to break the cycle in a positive way, or will he just re-inprison the DO, thus mending the wheel?
 
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the DragonBard

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ucal said:
So, you guys mind if I WMG?

So I'm thinking the horn of Valere needs to be present at the last battle for one reason: Rand will die there. And the horn, upon being blown by a desperate Mat, will bring him back. That's a pretty tame WMG, but I think that Avhiendha's children were viewed to be strange by Min, because they will be conceived in TAR, or perhaps someone will bring Rand back by bonding him a fourth time after the end (since that seems to be how Brigette was brought back), and that will result in strange children for Avi.

Where do you guys stand on how it will end? Will Rand find a way to break the cycle in a positive way, or will he just re-inprison the DO, thus mending the wheel?
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Well, we know one reason they're 'strange' is because they're the first children known to be able to channel from 'birth.'

Even those with the spark never channel before their late teens at the earliest.
 
seitora

seitora

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Correction: MEN don't channel until at least their late teens. Women have been stated to start much earlier, as early as 12 or 13 I think.

Also, regarding the Horn of Valere: I believe it may have actually been mentioned by RJ once, and is at the very least implied, that it may not be connected to Mat anymore. The link between a hornblower and the Horn only lasts as long as the hornblower is alive, and Mat MIGHT HAVE died while being hanged from the tree in Rhudeian in The Shadow Rising.


Also, a Sanderson tweet from Thursday:

#AMoL progress bar moved to 75%. This puts it at 225k words so far, roughly the size of book eight. (Using 300k as a guess for the final.)
 
seitora

seitora

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Sanderson says between July and November most likely
 
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the DragonBard

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seitora said:
Correction: MEN don't channel until at least their late teens. Women have been stated to start much earlier, as early as 12 or 13 I think.
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Where?
 
seitora

seitora

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the DragonBard said:
seitora said:
Correction: MEN don't channel until at least their late teens. Women have been stated to start much earlier, as early as 12 or 13 I think.
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It's mentioned several times in Lord of Chaos that men don't start channeling until later. The Great Horn mentions the ages of novices a lot being around 15 to 16, and a part of Egwene's Salidar Tower reforms in the later books is accepting novices older than 18.

In the Prologue of Winter's Heart it says the White Tower only accepts novices that are at least 15, _unless_ they have already started to channel.
 
Watashiwa

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Related: Blind Guardian did a Wheel of Time song called, appropriately, <a href='http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNnhhejBkW8' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Wheel of Time</a>. It's not the best, but they do a rousing chorus of "The Wheeeeel of Tiiiime!"

Thought I'd share. ;)
 
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Lu_2007

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From Brandon Sanderson's facebook:

"Ladies and gentlemen, A Memory of Light--the final book in The Wheel of Time--has been finished."

Rejoice people!
 
seitora

seitora

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<a href='http://www.tor.com/blogs/2012/02/the-release-date-for-a-memory-of-light-has-been-set' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Release Date - January 8th, 2013</a>

No :rant:

They'll probably be milking it prerelease with $2 prologue ebooks and super-special limited editions running $100~+ that will release prior to the general release or something.
 
nuclear death frog

nuclear death frog

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Looks like I was right months ago about the time-frame. Still, an actual final date is big news.
 
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Lu_2007

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Guys; the first part of the prologue of A memory of Light has been released!

It's not much but even then go, read and enjoy. :)

<a href='http://www.dragonmount.com/Books/Memory_of_Light/prologue.php' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>http://www.dragonmount.com/Books/Memory_of...ht/prologue.php</a>
 
Watashiwa

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Lu_2007 said:
Guys; the first part of the prologue of A memory of Light has been released!

It's not much but even then go, read and enjoy. :)

<a href='http://www.dragonmount.com/Books/Memory_of_Light/prologue.php' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>http://www.dragonmount.com/Books/Memory_of...ht/prologue.php</a>
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Oooh, nice! Prologue characters sounds like an Aielman to me.
 
seitora

seitora

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Only the opening section of the prologue itself.

Sooo....

They'll probably be milking it prerelease with $2 prologue ebooks and super-special limited editions running $100~+ that will release prior to the general release or something.
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Halcyon7

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seitora said:
Only the opening section of the prologue itself.

Sooo....

They'll probably be milking it prerelease with $2 prologue ebooks and super-special limited editions running $100~+ that will release prior to the general release or something.
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Which I will buy. Because this is the last book. In the fucking. Wheel. Of Time.

My money. Take it. All of it.
 
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