Naruto All That's Old Is New Again

Ninsaneja · Apr 24, 2011

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personally i find tsunade anywhere from "meh" to outright repulsive, and any naruto-tsunade match-up that does not involve time-travel is disgusting at best.

People seem to forget she is FUCKING OLD. Would you do your grandmother's bridge partner if she had big tits?

Also, outrageously huge breasts are horrible. Proportionate is best.

zeebee1 · Apr 25, 2011

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My main problem with Tsunade is her hair. That type of hair belongs on someone younger than even she pretends to be.

lask · Apr 25, 2011

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slim down her brests (by, admitedly, quite a bit), and I'm fine. She has, overall, a nice design, if only she wasn't draw to the scale of Divergence Eve.

bladerboy · May 12, 2011

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Hey great work. Cant wait to see more of it.

lask · May 12, 2011

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Die necromancer, DIE! DIEEEEEE!!!!

crazyfoxdemon · May 13, 2011

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lask said:

Its only 2 weeks old.. hardly a necro.. Although, the lack of purpose in the post is annoying..

da_fox2279 · May 13, 2011

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... I admit, when I first saw this on the section list, I passed it up because I thought it'd be another 'blah' fic.

I am glad to see I was wrong. Just read through this, and aside from some minor spelling errors, this is a dogdamn great fic. I am really enjoying this. I like the fact that Naruto and Sasuke are still recognizable as themselves, but still manage to act as they should.

This is, as stated, a great fic. I look forward to more... and maybe that dark oneshot you mentioned earlier in the thread. That would be cool, too.

zeebee1 · May 13, 2011

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lask, if you're going to hotlink images at least get the whole thing.

Antiguo · May 31, 2011

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This is a good Time Travel fic. A little dry in the description and the the dialogues can come as Beige Prose, but its still good.

It would be good to see what where de differences between the Konoha of old (with the Clans intact, different culture, Shinobi rules, barely entering the war and so on) or at least expand the worldbuilding of What Nariya and Orosuke deal daily, instead of going only to the lessons and trying to become a Chunin.

Even so, I hope the new chapter comes soon. What Tsunade is going to do (or say) to both of the douchebags is going to be epic.

Have an excellent day.

Deleted member 5249 · May 31, 2011

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Curse you for making me think Ryuugi updated three fics in one day. :headbanger:

*Seiya?goes back to waiting for an update for Open Windows.

Ryuugi · Jul 17, 2011

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XxXXxX

Naruto took back across the buildings after breaking into an abandoned building and hiding Sasuke as best he could. He retraced his steps as quickly as he possible could, hoping against hope that she was okay.

To his relief, she was.

To his anger, she wouldnï¿½t have been for much longer.

Tsunade, credit where credit was due, was good for her age. Genin at six? That was, like, Itachi level. Naruto had no trouble believing that in, oh, fifty years, she would be one of the most badass ninjas around. Hell, by the time she was ten, she would probably be bouncing Genin around like it was nothing.

But not yet.

For now, she was just a Genin. A six-year old Genin, granted, but that probably worked against her in this case, due to her smaller size and body weight. Naruto knew from experience that blood loss would hit her twice as fast as most of the other Genin in this test.

It would do the same to him and Sasuke.

Worse, she didnï¿½t have the benefit of recent extra training or the mind of a powerful ninja backing her up.

Maybe that was why this pissed him off.

As ninjas, it shouldnï¿½t have been deplorable for two Genin to gang up on another Genin; it was just logical. Hell, he and Sasuke had done that not too long ago, hadnï¿½t they? Strength in numbers and all that.

But all Naruto saw when he came upon the battle was two twelve year olds ganging up on a girl half their age with knives. Tsunade was bleeding, covered in small cuts, and just barely holding her own.

But sheï¿½d lose quickly at this rate.

Naruto would have snarled if it wouldnï¿½t have given his position away.

Instead, he hated himself briefly for leaving a teammate behind.

And then he kicked the feeling away and did something about it.

A Kawarimi switched him and Tsunade right before one of the older boys could get another blow through her guard.

But the blow was meant for a tiring, wounded girl, not her prepared teammate in a much better condition.

Naruto caught the boyï¿½s wrist with enhanced strength and stared at himï¿½a brown haired boy Naruto didnï¿½t know or really care aboutï¿½with narrowed eyes.

Then he pulled him roughly and smashed his forehead into the boyï¿½s nose, breaking it.

Naruto stumbled back a step.

That probably wasnï¿½t the smartest move; smashing your head into something rarely was. It hurt you too, after all.

But he didnï¿½t regret doing it one bit.

Heï¿½d wanted to break that guyï¿½s nose with his forehead so he had, to hell with wisdom.

He glared at the other boy, some guy with black hair, keeping an eye on him in case he tried anything.

Apparently, the sight of a Genin with blood on his forehead was making him think twice.

Good.

Naruto lifted the still stunned boy he had a hold of and threw him at the other boy. The boy was still a Genin, though, so he quickly dodged, apparently not caring about his ï¿½ally.ï¿½

Well, they probably werenï¿½t on the same team. To him, it was just one less team to worry about.

Naruto didnï¿½t like that type of mindset, but knew he wasnï¿½t in the best position to talk about teamwork at the moment.

Speaking of whichï¿½

He had bigger things to worry about then these two at the moment, no matter how pissed off he was.

He understood the notion of friendly competition, of course, but he didnï¿½t see the point in disqualifying opponents if he didnï¿½t need too.

After all, wouldnï¿½t it be better for Konoha as a whole if it got more Chunin?

He still wanted to beat the crap out of these two, but if he looked at it logically, there were wars coming up; continent spanning wars. Konoha could use all the trained ninjas it could get. If these two assholes passed this exam, then their teammates might pass as well, for a total of six more Chunin. He had no way of knowing how good any of them would be as ninjas, butï¿½

Six more Chunin could save a lot of lives, couldnï¿½t they?

Maybe Konoha lives.

Maybe the lives of innocent civilians.

Hell, for all he knew, one of those six ninjas would help end the war.

And besidesï¿½

He had a wounded teammate to deal with and a test to pass.

He couldnï¿½t afford to be injured or to waste time and he didnï¿½t want toï¿½no, that was a lie; he did want to beat the crap out of these two. But he knew that it wouldnï¿½t be wise.

So when Naruto reached into the pouch at his side, it was a smoke bomb, not a kunai, the he drew out.

He threw it down and vanished in a cloud of smoke and was gone by the time it cleared.

XxXXxX

ankokudaishogun · Jul 17, 2011

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uh, no.
Konoha needs the chunin being good enough to... well, be chunin. Hence the exam.
While Naruto's reasoning might make some degree of sense for the genin, it's not the case for the higher grades.
Quality>Quantity, because low quality means you lose great quantity when a not competent chunin gets a platoon killed.

And from an experienced Naruto, I find this out of character(Naruto is a moron, but is not stupid)

lask · Jul 17, 2011

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ankokudaishogun said:

But promotion tends to come with additional training - proving to your superiors that it's a good idea for you to be promoted is really convening Konoha that it's worth the investment to get you more and better training. Under that logic, Naruto's decision makes perfect sense.

Ryuugi · Jul 17, 2011

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ankokudaishogun said:

That's...not really what's happening here, though. What's happening is that, if Naruto beats them, their entire team will be disqualified. And Naruto, well, he's in a Genin body, but he's still Naruto. He's a ninja that was at least Kage level at one point, and while his body's shitty as hell at the moment, he's still a badass. He's not exactly a fair fight--or at least, he doesn't consider it such. Losing to Naruto (or Sasuke) is like, in this case, a new Chunin losing to an experienced Chunin; it's pretty much inevitable. They're are better then any one else in that test.

So basically, Naruto taking them out would disqualify six potential Chunin, flat out. There would be no other result.

As to if they are worthy or not, who knows? But, here's a cool idea: let the examiners, the people in charge of deciding who is worth of becoming a Chunin, decide that? It seems a bit moe logical then basing their passing or failure of whether or not one single member loses against a blantantly superior opponent--cause no one's gonna pass a guy who loses to a six year old and fails in the first test, even if they were qualified.

zeebee1 · Jul 17, 2011

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Moe logical sounds oddly cute.

ankokudaishogun · Jul 17, 2011

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uh, no.
At least: we have no proof or even indication of such

zeebee1 · Jul 18, 2011

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It's a logical assumption. Otherwise they're just genin with a pay raise.

Samurai Jackson · Jul 18, 2011

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I would assume they would have access to better training, as by that stage of their career they'd have a better idea of what they would like to specialize in. What good is a team leader if they still have the skills and techniques of your average non-clan genin?

Yorae Rasante · Jul 18, 2011

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Well, they are supposed to be a military equivalent, only with just four ranks counting the Hokage and ANBU as their special forces (as officially they aren't actually a rank, it is allowed for even a genin to be an ANBU).

So, in the real-world military, do people get extra training as they go up in rank?

I'm not very knowledged in it, but I think I heard once that they do. I think a friend of my father had to take some training before going up on the ranks or something.

sworded · Jul 18, 2011

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Chunin likely get more leadership training than the genin, but their superior combat skills are likely because they simply are better than the majority genin. They're more experienced, driven, and talented than most genin it's part of the reason they get nominated in the first place. Being promoted in ranks dosen't make them awesome; being awesome is what gets them promoted.

It might be true that the exams allow the ninjas attract skilled mentors with displays of thier skills, but they could just as likely attract that attention in other ways.

violetshadows · Jul 20, 2011

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sworded said:

In that case where do the ninja's actually get decent training from, its certainly not their jonin commanders while they're genin, nor the academy: they may throw them a few bones, but those are largely just basics. As for taking them from other ninja, they're genin, the most they're supposed to go on is C rank missions, if they're fighting ninja then someone fucked up. Face it, the only place they're reasonably going to get additional training is after promotion to chuunin, the number of high caliber ninja who are willing to take on an apprentice have got to be near nil. You could argue that they're supposed to make their own techniques, but we're never really shown any of that, its more likely to assume they're given specialized training after they've proven themselves trustworthy to Konoha's leadership. Plus, if everyone made their own techniques it raises the question how certain things like the mizu bunshin are so wide spread, parallel developement can only cover so much.

sworded · Jul 20, 2011

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violetshadows said:

A fair amount of thier skills are taught by their jonin instructors, any experienced clan members/relatives/friends, any other mentors they might attract, any scrolls they can by or steal, anything they can learn from watching other nins both friend and foe, ect. Of course I'm heavily baseing this on what we see from Sasuke and Naruto. Finding and convincing talented teachers to take you on is the primary method of getting new skills until your good enough to come up with stuff on your own.

Yorae Rasante · Jul 20, 2011

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...what good is trying to figure out how chunnin get training by seeing as examples not only two people who never got that rank but also were a big interest of important people each? Really, they are clearly the exception to whatever may be the rule.

zeebee1 · Jul 21, 2011

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It doesn't really matter, as there are only four kids of note during that time.

Yorae Rasante · Jul 21, 2011

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Well from this point of view, this whole discussion doesn't matter anyway. Doesn't make my point less valid.

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