An Oldy but Goody

[The Eromancer]

:blink: Here's a thought that just came to me a few minutes ago.

I was sitting in front of my rather large collection of old and new playstation 2 games desiding again for the night which one I wanted to pull out and play before I go to bed.

However for the first time in a while I simply couldn't choose any of them, none of the games were all that appealing to me at the moment, so I turned to my Xbox and the few games I had for that.... again, nothing.

At this point I was starting to get a little... twitchy. :lonegunman:

After about a full ten minutes of just trying to play random games I finally just about had enough of them and for a second I had the horrid thought that perhaps I no longer cared for video games entirely anymore!! :crazy:

In my panic (spaz moment :headbanger: ) I knocked my foot into my dresser. While that hurt like a mother f%cker it did get my attention to a rather dusty little 24 CD case. I had entirely forgotten about it, with the amount of dust settled on it I had perhaps not even touched it in over a few years.

The curious fellow that I am, I opened said case.

And smiled.

The first thing out of the package was the little known game that should have been king.

LEGEND OF DRAGOON :yay:

Now i ask myself, why hasn't anyone thought to write fanfics about the oldies but goodies? Those games that shone like gold but were quickly forgotten with such releases as FF7.

"The Legend of Dragoon" is a gem amoung games that are mere lumps of coal. I would even bet that if this game were to be re-released right NOW with all the enhanced grafics that were has at our disposal that such games like Halo would be smashed to pieces by its mere presence. The game had- HAS everything you could ask for. Unique and new battle system (which admitedly could be tweaked just a bit), an enthraling, compelling and original storyline; characters that you fell in love with and cried for in some cases. It was everything a game should be.

And then came Final Fantasy 7 :no:

...The funny part to this whole story is that this game, "The Legend of Dragoon" was developed by the same people and in my honest opinion one of the greatest games they'd ever made. :hail:

<_<

So I ask you all. Why not write fanfiction about it and many other of the old games that have long since been forgotten?

 

[Scygnus Darkhawk]

I know what you mean. I played through the entire second disc in one sitting, five straight hours that destroyed the ancient TV I was playing on.

But I go further back. I have a fic for Alcahest sitting on my hard drive (Of my computer that's not working, though I probably have it backed up on a disc somewhere) and it doesn't get much older than that. Alcahest was a game not even released in the US, I think, for the SNES, or Super Famicom, rather. I got it on the internet as a ROM, used the fan-made English patch, and played through it. It was just an old-fashioned top-down beat-em-up with some nice additions like magic and charged sword techniques, but there were aspects of the story I thought could be expanded on greatly, and so I began to 'write' the game with expansions to the story, modifications that I thought should be there and to keep it from being identical, and an alternate ending I thought rather dramatic.

I had it to around the beginning of the third chapter before I lost interest or came up with an idea for something else, but I may go back to it someday... after re-writing it, because I wasn't so good at writing back then...

I also want to write something for Disgaea, but haven't really been able to come up with anything doable yet... Disgaea is very popular with those who have played it, and it's the single funniest RPG I've ever played. "Hi! Nice to meet you! I'm an assassin!"

Also had an idea for a Dark Cloud lemon once, one of my first lemon ideas, crappy as it was and annoying as that damn game is.

Oh, and let's not forget Okami. Only one of my favorite games of all time, after all. Haven't been able to come up with anything good though.

I should try to convince hawker or someone to write a milf incest piece for Grandia III :rofl: If you've played that game, you know why. I swear she must have had him when she was twelve :sweat:

And Grandia II, why haven't we seen anything for that? It was an awesome game! And Ryudo started out as one of the best protagonists ever, a real bastard. I also want to see someone explore exactly how he handled having two girlfriends. Sure, they got along at the end of the, but I'd bet their live-and-let-live attitudes ended where their nookie began.

And how about Parasite Eve? The first one, I mean, the second was just bleh. It was one of the most interesting games I have ever played. You could do all sorts of things with it, but I see nothing.

And how about the Lunar series? I've read mayyybe three good ones. The rest are either poorly-disguised self-inserts or following the video-game formula religiously. And I'm sure you know how well that works :sweat2:

And yes, I am sitting here with my CD case with all my old games looking through it. So shoot me.

On a side note, I want to see someone seriously try to do something for the RAMPAGE! games. I think it'd be VERY amusing.

 

[shout27]

For Lunar what's the plotline for Eternal Blue? all i've ever played is SSS:C. I suddenly had the Scary thought of Ghaleon having a "Trump Card" for the Final Battle, He Summons Saber from F/SN to fight beside him. :jawdrop:

 

[Scygnus Darkhawk]

Haven't actually seen that anime. Could be fun though. I won't say what role Ghaleon plays in the second one, because he's seriously awesome in a weird way. He was always my favorite character...

Basic plot for Eternal Blue is this: The main character, Hiro, has a run in with Lucia, the Princess of the Blue Star. She reveals that Zophar, the God of Destruction, has revived and set his sights on Lunar and that she must be taken to Althena immediately so he can be stopped. Lucia joins your party as an uncontrollable guest... and stays that way for the rest of the game, except for a few times when you're separated. Right after you get her, she's godlike, dealing out massive damage to all enemies before they can even blink. Then Zophar curses her and she becomes completely helpless. So now, Hiro and his pet/friend/(self declared)girlfriend, the red 'flying cat' Ruby have to help her first get to a healer so that the curse can be lifted to some degree, since she can hardly walk on her own and it might even be serious enough to do her in eventually. Once she is cured, to a very small degree (still useless, but she can walk... when you get near the end of the game, she actually starts attacking with pretty decent power again) she intends to leave you behind and find Althena herself. Hiro, having no logical objection, starts to let her go, but then changes his mind, deciding to go with her. There are a lot of twists from that point, so I'll stop there. It's waaaaay better than SSS, not that SSS wasn't good in its own right, they just outdid themselves with Eternal Blue. I still wear the medallion that came with the game sometimes

 

[The Eromancer]

And just above ladies and gentlemen is Scygnus Darkhawk's 600th post!

That's right you saw it here first and only here!!

(Sorry couldn't help myself when I noticed it.)

Anyways, I'm really glad this topic has come off so well, being my first and all.

(This'll be my 2nd post! :yay t:

Anyways, I was just going over some of my own files just now. Turns out I have a few archaic stories myself that I'm almost too imbarrased about to tell you.... but then I'm just not that shy.

I got a.... Kongo Bongo story which I actually think was quite well done since that atari game had absolutely NO storyline at all and only TWO levels that looped as you beat them. It was a short story of course, but it took into account all the elements the game had and made good use of them, the fight with the pair of homicidal monkeys that were hell bent on weighing you down enough that the vine bridge would collapse beneath you was a stroke of genius.... for my 8 year old self. It involved a knife, some blood, and the mixing up of the two monkey's genders.

And lets not even go into the Mario is missing self insert that I did, my first one where I actually get lucky and find Mario in the FIRST gate I enter! (Stupid I know)

And there was my first well written Lemon, actually had a very unique plot (at the time) and was based on a kid who was taken in by a tank gang from the N64 game Battle Tanx. The actually sex wasn't written by myself, but the rest was.... so you can see a big difference in writing style and quality, mine stuff sucked but somehow still interesting enough to where you kept reading to get to the lemon part.

An accomplishment if i do say so myself.

And then last but certainly not least.... my "Breath of Fire" (the 1st one) and "Secret of Evermore" CROSSOVER..... I never even started it though I do remember I thought it was the most brilliant idea known to common man.

Upon reflection it probably wasn't and lets leave it at that. :sweat2:

 

[Scygnus Darkhawk]

Breath of Fire/Secret of Evermore? Riiiight... Secret of Evermore had a decently interesting plot, as did the first Breath of Fire (not that I ever beat either...) but I don't know if that'd quite work...

How about the Mana series? I haven't kept up with it, to tell the truth, but I understand it went downhill anyway. Seiken Densetsu 2 (Secret of Mana) was awesome and had a great story, if more than a little difficult. Seiken Densetsu 3 was pure badass as far as the gameplay went, though the story was a little lacking compared to its predecessor. Lemme put it this way: with my party and class choices, I had the two highest attackers in the game and someone who could bust enemy stats down to 2/3 of their normal effectiveness. Add to that farming the best equipment in the game and the final boss went down in less than thirty seconds. Actually, one of the classes was the wrong one... if I'd had the highest attack power class for that character, he probably wouldn't have lasted fifteen.

Oh, and Lise/Reisz is hot

But yeah, with not one, not two, but six characters, each with their own individual story, there's a lot of room to play in SD3. Though if I did it, I'd have to crack a 'AH! THE VOICES!' joke, since the elemental spirits all take up residence in the hero's head after you find them.

 

[GenocideHeart]

I haven't seen any well written fics for either Valkyrie Profile or SaGa Frontier, personally.

Also, more people need to play the first two Shin Megami Tensei games, as well as Metal Max Returns (whose patch should be complete sometime in the next 30 days).

 

[Scygnus Darkhawk]

*growls at the mention of Valkyrie Profile* Goddamit Sony! Couldn't you have re-released it on less of a shit system?!

I still haven't beaten that, had to give the copy I borrowed back...

I haven't played Shin Megami Tensei... are they good? The cases looked intriguing.

 

[FH_Meta]

Shin Megami Tensei is good. Very good. Just keep in mind that nakama (allies) can be far more important than levels.

Here's a good place for the patch. The Roms can be found anywhere.

 

[Ryogas_BF]

hm, game gems deserving of fanfiction eh? I can think of a few...

Legend of the Dragoon and Parasite eve I wholely agree with as they are two of my favorites.

Shining Force 2 on the Genesis was one of the first rpgs I played and I did love it greatly. There was 30 or so characters with plenty of chances for story to be given. heck They force you to marry the princess in it well one of your original team members (the priest Sarah) likes you but won't admit it and runs off in tears as your forced to go in to marry the princess. I wanted to follow her but there is a crowd of sprites you can't move though. That had always bugged me. Overall it gives a whole bunch of character templates and then after they join you they get no more developement... crying out for fanfiction.

and Final Fantasy Tactics, the original not the crappy gameboy one. It's my all time favorite game with one of my favorite stories. The game gives so much background information and character depth but the amount of fics it pitiful compared to most games... they are rereleasing an update of it on the PSP so hopefully there will be a resurgence but all I can do is keep my fingers crossed.

 

[Scygnus Darkhawk]

I played the first shining force, got as far as the bigass cannon on the bridge and had to switch computers, which lost my save file. Not much story there, really.

And I have a reason why there aren't more FFT fics... because that game is fscking hard. I don't know why either. I played it with a friend a while back, who knew what he was doing, and we raced through the game without a problem. But then I tried to play it on my own, and for some inexplicable reason, I got hammered. I got hammered again, and again, and again. The game was good, don't doubt, but I just can't figure it out.

 

[Ryogas_BF]

SFII had a fairly bland main story too but the characters were pretty good (save the main hero who had no personality 6-_- ) it had the potential to be even greater not to mention it was a chalenaging strategy rpg.

I hear that a lot with final fantasy tactics. I never had a problem with it and have beatene it several times and love the system. But then some of my friends tried it and said it was too hard for them which surprised me. It's a real shame... I'm hoping the fix the localization problems that were in the original, it would eb the only thing that would make the story better. anyway I can always hope of FF come from there and do my best to write some myself I guess.



t: oh the new version though has wireless multiplyer so you can match strategy againast another human opponent which is cool. Plus the major cutscenes are now animated giving some more depth to the important scenes.

 

[toraneko]

Yeah, the random number generator in FFT always seemed to screw me over. No matter what I did, the enemy always did maximum damage, and my characters (if they hit at all) always hit weakly. I still have the game, but I'm too frustrated with it to play it much.

Dragoon was a good game. The story was great, the battle system secure, the characters and story good.
(FF7 had nothing to do with its lack of popularity; LoD was released not long after FF8.)
For some reason I still can't figure out, it wasn't really a popular game.

Myself, I'd just like to have the game be done so that the graphics are improved, the lame moments of dialogue cleaned up, the cinematic scenes remade, and (most importantly) the entire game can be played without swapping disks.

Disk-swapping always annoyed me, but when you have to do it repeatedly to access parts of the world you "left behind"... bleh.

I never got to play the Lunar games, as they're more or less collectors' items now (and thus I will probably never be able to afford them).

Breath of Fire I was good, but I always preferred BoF II's story and characters, and BoF III even moreso. I still have yet to see a good fanfic for any of them.

Seiken Densetsu 3 is still a favorite of mine. This, too, lacks fanfiction.

I'm beginning to think that the better the game/series, the less likely it is that 'serious' fanfic authors will write for it. And I can understand why; some of them are masterpieces, and who would put lipstick on the Mona Lisa's smile?

 

[SotF]

The original LUNAR games are, I was lucky enough to have a copy of the Silver Star for the SegaCD, I'm looking for the other games. I have both Complete games and Dragon Song, but Dragon Song is rather odd for the series

 

[Scygnus Darkhawk]

I managed to snatch SSS:C from the used section at gamestop, got lucky is all. EB:C I got shortly after it came out. Though it's loaned out to a friend at the moment (it's been something like five years and he still hasn't remembered to bring the damn thing back to me).

 

[SotF]

I managed to snatch SSS:C from the used section at gamestop, got lucky is all. EB:C I got shortly after it came out. Though it's loaned out to a friend at the moment (it's been something like five years and he still hasn't remembered to bring the damn thing back to me).

SSS:C used the enemies leveling up with Alex which was extremely annoying and removed the incentive to level him up at all

 

[Scygnus Darkhawk]

Eh, I blew through that game without leveling after the sewer. Everything tended to fry, and proper application of White Dragon Protect pretty much pwned all bosses.

 

[SotF]

Eh, I blew through that game without leveling after the sewer. Everything tended to fry, and proper application of White Dragon Protect pretty much pwned all bosses.

True, but it means that anyone who wants to get all of the spells for Alex gets screwed over because it gets alot harder. Dragon Song did the same thing and it annoys me, you get nothing out of leveling up other than a harder game and it opens up a lot of cheating by making Alex run whenever possible or knocking him out.

Eternal Blue Complete had its own problems, they should have adjusted it to fit the changes of Silver Star Complete, like where the Grindery was disabled.

 

[GenocideHeart]

And I have a reason why there aren't more FFT fics... because that game is fscking hard. I don't know why either. I played it with a friend a while back, who knew what he was doing, and we raced through the game without a problem. But then I tried to play it on my own, and for some inexplicable reason, I got hammered. I got hammered again, and again, and again. The game was good, don't doubt, but I just can't figure it out.

Zuh? There are only THREE hard spots in *all* of FFT. Finath River with the Red Chocobo infestation (fucking Choco Meteor), Riovanes Castle Part 2 with the one on one with wiegraf, and Riovanes's rooftop where Rafa RUSHES HEADLONG INTO TWO ASSASSINS andgets killed for her trouble. And the latter is just due to bad AI.

The rest of the game was cake for me, even when I was playing it the first time. If you want a random number generator that really rapes you in the ass with no lube, try Fire Emblem's...

 

[Scygnus Darkhawk]

Like I said, I have NO idea why that game is hard for me. I'm missing something, and I don't know what it is.

 

[MC80a Liberty]

And I have a reason why there aren't more FFT fics... because that game is fscking hard. I don't know why either. I played it with a friend a while back, who knew what he was doing, and we raced through the game without a problem. But then I tried to play it on my own, and for some inexplicable reason, I got hammered. I got hammered again, and again, and again. The game was good, don't doubt, but I just can't figure it out.

Zuh? There are only THREE hard spots in *all* of FFT. Finath River with the Red Chocobo infestation (fucking Choco Meteor), Riovanes Castle Part 2 with the one on one with wiegraf, and Riovanes's rooftop where Rafa RUSHES HEADLONG INTO TWO ASSASSINS andgets killed for her trouble. And the latter is just due to bad AI.

The rest of the game was cake for me, even when I was playing it the first time. If you want a random number generator that really rapes you in the ass with no lube, try Fire Emblem's...

True, Fire Emblem's the only game (series) where NONE of my stats have gone up at all on a level up, made even worse by the low level caps.

 

[Scygnus Darkhawk]

Drakengard! Nobody's wrote anything for Drakengard, as far as I know.

Here's the basis for Drakengard, since it's not exactly a well-known game.

You're fucked.

If you lose, the world is fucked. If you win, it's one of five endings, which I'll explain in a moment.

The main character is Caim. Caim is a mean, bloodthirsty bastard with a sister complex. He has godlike durability and strength, mowing down entire armies all by himself(The largest stage in the game has around 2500 enemies to kill, though you can beat it by taking down only about fifty specific targets). Caim also has a pact with a dragon, though he gave up his ability to speak for it. In return he can call on her help any time, and they both lend each-other strength. Caim's parents were killed by imperial dragons, which is why he has a deep hatred of the empire and dragons, but circumstances forced both his and the dragon's hands so that they had to form a pact... or die. She doesn't like him much either.

Some characters to note are his allies. One of them is a poor depressed bastard with a pact with a sadistic fairy that taunts him relentlessly and took his sight in the pact. One of them is a little boy that never grows up because of his pact with a giant golem. He's the only normal, nice one. The third ally is a crazy bitch. Shortly after meeting her, she complains that there aren't any children around to eat. Then she says to Caim 'you're a little old, but you'll do' and promptly tries to eat him. Only quick action on the old wise guy's part keeps her from becoming a bloodstain in the sand. Why is she crazy? Because her children died in the war, and then the spirits of water and fire that formed a pact with her took her womb as the price.

Think that's all the fucked up it can get? That's not even close.

Ending 1: The only somewhat good ending. You're pretty screwed over on the personal side, but you're alive and the world is saved.

Ending 2: You're fucked. Your enemies are fucked. Your dragon is fucked. The world, and everyone in it, is fucked.

Ending 3: Humanity is fucked. You're alive for now, but it probably won't last much longer.

Ending 4: Everyone you know dies. You die too. But the world is saved.

Ending 5: Just for the hell of it apparently, you end up in the future on your dragon, and have an aerial dogfight with jets. Even once you shoot them all down, you get shot down anyway, and die.


So whaddya think of that? I think someone could do something with it.

I'd love to see an FFVII cross. *Cloud pulls out his big sword. Sephiroth pulls out his big sword. Caim looks at both of them, gives a look that just shouts 'pussies!' and pulls out Hymir's Finger. Cloud and Sephiroth piss themselves.*

 

[GenocideHeart]

Drakengard! Nobody's wrote anything for Drakengard, as far as I know.

Here's the basis for Drakengard, since it's not exactly a well-known game.

You're fucked.

If you lose, the world is fucked. If you win, it's one of five endings, which I'll explain in a moment.

The main character is Caim. Caim is a mean, bloodthirsty bastard with a sister complex. He has godlike durability and strength, mowing down entire armies all by himself(The largest stage in the game has around 2500 enemies to kill, though you can beat it by taking down only about fifty specific targets). Caim also has a pact with a dragon, though he gave up his ability to speak for it. In return he can call on her help any time, and they both lend each-other strength. Caim's parents were killed by imperial dragons, which is why he has a deep hatred of the empire and dragons, but circumstances forced both his and the dragon's hands so that they had to form a pact... or die. She doesn't like him much either.

Some characters to note are his allies. One of them is a poor depressed bastard with a pact with a sadistic fairy that taunts him relentlessly and took his sight in the pact. One of them is a little boy that never grows up because of his pact with a giant golem. He's the only normal, nice one. The third ally is a crazy bitch. Shortly after meeting her, she complains that there aren't any children around to eat. Then she says to Caim 'you're a little old, but you'll do' and promptly tries to eat him. Only quick action on the old wise guy's part keeps her from becoming a bloodstain in the sand. Why is she crazy? Because her children died in the war, and then the spirits of water and fire that formed a pact with her took her womb as the price.

Think that's all the fucked up it can get? That's not even close.

Ending 1: The only somewhat good ending. You're pretty screwed over on the personal side, but you're alive and the world is saved.

Ending 2: You're fucked. Your enemies are fucked. Your dragon is fucked. The world, and everyone in it, is fucked.

Ending 3: Humanity is fucked. You're alive for now, but it probably won't last much longer.

Ending 4: Everyone you know dies. You die too. But the world is saved.

Ending 5: Just for the hell of it apparently, you end up in the future on your dragon, and have an aerial dogfight with jets. Even once you shoot them all down, you get shot down anyway, and die.


So whaddya think of that? I think someone could do something with it.

I'd love to see an FFVII cross. *Cloud pulls out his big sword. Sephiroth pulls out his big sword. Caim looks at both of them, gives a look that just shouts 'pussies!' and pulls out Hymir's Finger. Cloud and Sephiroth piss themselves.*

You forgot the giant cannibal babies in one of the stages. Other than that, it's a pretty good summary of Drakengard...

 

[Scygnus Darkhawk]

Well, I was trying to avoid spoiling it too much...

But yes, the giant cannibal babies were fucked up too. The room was half-full of people when I got to that point too, so there were WTF!??!? reactions all around.

 

[GenocideHeart]

Well, I was trying to avoid spoiling it too much...

But yes, the giant cannibal babies were fucked up too. The room was half-full of people when I got to that point too, so there were WTF!??!? reactions all around.

All I can say is that whatever the guy who thought Drakengard up was on, it had to be a stronger drug than what the Gainax staff was on when they made Evangelion. And that says a LOT about how ungodly fucked up Drakengard is.

Drakengard 2 was a *lot* less fucked up, but still had some really disturbing shit.

Why does Square waste time with bishie emofaggots in Final Fantasies when they can whip out this kind of crack-laced games?