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[PCHeintz72]

gemmaethanwitaker
@Pusakuronu, the problem I find with AA is that you can't subscribe to threads, which means for something like yours that is widely followed AA is something of a bad only choice. Beyond that, I have to wonder how much longer you can drag things out before Ami win

HUH... Anime Addventure has a site wide RSS feed that allows one to monitor updates easily enough... it would be overflowed easily in the old days, but traffic is far less than it used to be. Worked fine for me.

daniel_gudman
There have been a couple people around asking about copies of Dungeon Keeper Ami; was that one of the ones you archived?

Probably a bit soon to be talking about scrounging up people with various threads, it may well get fixed. And the author of said story posted immediately above your post and is evaluating their options. Personally, I would not recommend a forum for Addventure posts, but that is not my call to make.

Dr.No Good
Did anyone have Red Priest of the 17th Order and Iridium Heart stuff saved they did good story's.

Even if anyone did, it very likely would be part of other threads, I think very few people indeed ever saved the stuff by episode author

I have some 219 non-lemon threads archived of Ranma stuff, and another couple dozen of other stuff like NGE, Tenchi, OMG, and SM, oh, and 2 Happy Lesson threads. I have 100 more that is more lemon oriented... However, most seem to prefer reading them in episode chain view. I prefer raw episodes.

I saved all those with this exact scenario in mind for my own personal use... I prefer reading offline, and also have been burned by site disappearances and outages before adopting that policy. Having them local is the best approach. Been doing it for some 12+ years.

 

[daniel_gudman]

Probably a bit soon to be talking about scrounging up people with various threads, it may well get fixed. And the author of said story posted immediately above your post and is evaluating their options. Personally, I would not recommend a forum for Addventure posts, but that is not my call to make.

Yeah I saw that and was like

whelp
nevermind

 

[Estrecca]

For what it might be worth, KLSymph tells me that he has given Bast a heads up about the situation and that he hopes that the current technical difficulties will be solved.

 

[Xon]

Actually with Dungeon keeper ami they might not want it on their sites given the large use of sex related jokes involving minors, and one of the more entertaining bits of comedy is 14 year old Ami's mistaken for pervert status. Even if a mod gives the Okay it's still possible someone could report an old chapter and you could eat a ban out of nowhere months later.

Well the idea is I'ld ask the moderators on SV to actually give it a readover and see if there are any segments which are an issue to facilitate it being put up. The benefits of being the website owner.

I don't think DKA would actually be a problem on SV.

Would you make that available somewhere, please?

Even if anyone did, it very likely would be part of other threads, I think very few people indeed ever saved the stuff by episode author

I have some 219 non-lemon threads archived of Ranma stuff, and another couple dozen of other stuff like NGE, Tenchi, OMG, and SM, oh, and 2 Happy Lesson threads.  I have 100 more that is more lemon oriented...   However, most seem to prefer reading them in episode chain view.  I prefer raw episodes.

44757 episodes scrapped as of 2016-04-09. ~120mb rar compressed.

The SQL database (~56mb rar compressed), has some stored procedures which let you view episodes by chain, author and such. But no easy to read UI.

Also, my ADSL upload is only 0.7mbps

 

[PCHeintz72]

Well.. that certainly beats me, but it should, as I only have a subset.

Ranma non-lemon is some 6590+ individual files, and Ranma lemon is some 3760+. Never counted the rest, doubt it is more than another 1000 or so combined though.

So assuming you have 100%, I have about a 1/4 of it.

 

[gemmaethanwhitaker]

I'm pretty sure that if Bast merely fixed the addventure itself's robots.txt file wayback machine would work fine

 

[Xon]

Well..  that certainly beats me, but it should, as I only have a subset.  

Ranma non-lemon is some 6590+ individual files, and Ranma lemon is some 3760+.   Never counted the rest, doubt it is more than another 1000 or so combined though.  

So assuming you have 100%, I have about a 1/4 of it.

I set it up to aggressively scan each episode number (upto the latest), and then to progressively scan the 100 recent eps page by page each time it hit a page with more than 20% unknown eps.

I'ld hope I had it all

I'm pretty sure that if Bast merely fixed the addventure itself's robots.txt file wayback machine would work fine

This would require Bast to be around for the last +5 years.

 

[gemmaethanwhitaker]

Oh, ok. The problem from I case but is that because wayback is getting an error when trying to get the robots.txt, it's not allowing you to view pages from AA, if that was fixed almost all functionality would be restored on wayback.

And what happened to Bast?

 

[Robo Jesus]

And what happened to Bast?

Missing Administrator Syndrome. A condition where Administrators get bored of the sites they own/operate and disappear without a word or means of contacting them.

This happened to TFF as well before the users copied everything and set up another site with that data.

 

[The Ero-Sennin]

And what happened to Bast?

Missing Administrator Syndrome. A condition where Administrators get bored of the sites they own/operate and disappear without a word or means of contacting them.

This happened to TFF as well before the users copied everything and set up another site with that data.

And that's why I say fuck that guy with a chainsaw. Well, that and he banned me for being an asshole, but eh, a final impotent act of police in a failed anarchist state.

 

[crazyfoxdemon]

And what happened to Bast?

Missing Administrator Syndrome. A condition where Administrators get bored of the sites they own/operate and disappear without a word or means of contacting them.

This happened to TFF as well before the users copied everything and set up another site with that data.

And that's why I say fuck that guy with a chainsaw. Well, that and he banned me for being an asshole, but eh, a final impotent act of police in a failed anarchist state.

Yeah, the way he treated the old TFF in the end was a dick move. Banning new members and all that.

I can completely understand getting bored and tired of something you created, but you shouldn't just abandon it if others enjoy it. At least not without passing over the reins of control first.

 

[Dr. No Good]

Has anyone tried contacting Bast? To take over the Anime Addventure.

 

[Pusakuronu]

Pusa, you do know that putting DKA exclusively on TFF would mean people would not be able to even view DKA without having an account, right?

I actually didn't realise that until you mentioned it. Whoops. 

Well the idea is I'ld ask the moderators on SV to actually give it a readover and see if there are any segments which are an issue to facilitate it being put up. The benefits of being the website owner.

I don't think DKA would actually be a problem on SV.

A readover would keep your mods busy for a while, I think. In any case, it contains nudity but no on-screen sex.

 

[Xon]

A readover would keep your mods busy for a while, I think. In any case, it contains nudity but no on-screen sex.

This is why we have ~20 moderators, and spread out who checks what

And honestly, we've had to content check longer material.

 

[Aranfan]

I for one would love to see DKA on SV. Fanfiction.net is annoying as heck to read.

 

[PCHeintz72]

It is my mere opinion, but forum software is actually not really all that great for Addventure type stories. I've never seen it implemented well. Archive sites make more sense.

 

[Robo Jesus]

Spoiler

The poster tertius over on SB took this screenshot of the last things viewable (via google cache) on AA before it went down. It seems the poster mrttao helped speed up AA's crash and burn by spam posting episodes he didn't even write (and that he didn't even have permission by the author to post).


Lovely. :headbanger:

 

[Estrecca]

While dumping stuff from the Maximum Addventure there might have been somewhat stupid/inconsiderate, posting a couple dozen episodes seems to me unlikely to have been the cause of the collapse, beyond perhaps a sense of "straw that broke the camel's back".

Thing was going down sooner or later, it seems.

At any rate, KLSymph has posted stuff to the effect of making a download/conversion of the whole thing into JSON and saying that he isn't letting it go gently into the night, so make of that what you will.

 

[PCHeintz72]

I recall similar statement made years ago by the old Anifics admin regarding the author specific sites that were archived...

And similar statements at their respective times about TMFFA, and a few specific stories by authors...
I'm not saying he won't do as says... But I'll not hope for much better than status que.

 

[gemmaethanwhitaker]

Those Dungeon Keeper Ranma episodes had been up for awhile before AA went down, and looking at the comments section for one of them, apparently the guy posting them had permission from Psycosama to post them, who was heavily involved in writing them

 

[Robo Jesus]

Those Dungeon Keeper Ranma episodes had been up for awhile before AA went down, and looking at the comments section for one of them, apparently the guy posting them had permission from Psycosama to post them, who was heavily involved in writing them

And according to Psykosama he doesn't remember giving the guy permission at all (though he also said he probably would have had he knew what was going on, which he did not at the time). :shrugs:

But yeah, while it was inconsiderate as hell and did speed things up (the straw that broke the camel's back and all that), the site was fucked to begin with due to Bast being MIA and it being so poorly coded.

 

[gemmaethanwhitaker]

I doubt those exact episodes where the problem, they'd been up for hours before the site went down, possibly as much as a full day

 

[masterofgames]

Pusa, you do know that putting DKA exclusively on TFF would mean people would not be able to even view DKA without having an account, right?

I actually didn't realise that until you mentioned it. Whoops. 

Any decision made on where you'll wind up posting, here or otherwise?

 

[Ura Mamoru]

Actually with Dungeon keeper ami they might not want it on their sites given the large use of sex related jokes involving minors, and one of the more entertaining bits of comedy is 14 year old Ami's mistaken for pervert status. Even if a mod gives the Okay it's still possible someone could report an old chapter and you could eat a ban out of nowhere months later.

Honestly I'd recommend FFN for just sharing the story, but if your looking for comments SB and SV run a risk. I'd recommend QQ where there isn't a stigma against underage characters making innuendo and such but you'll probably see less comments there then on FFN.

Spacebattles has actually loosened up on those rules somewhat within the last year (basically as a credit to the reduced degree of people toeing/pushing the line). At any rate, if Pusa wants to post DKA on SB, the best bet really is to send a private message to a moderator asking their opinion on whether any particular passages would be considered 'too much', and then posting after an 'all-clear' response comes in.

As the moderators have discussed in threads regarding those specific rules, asking and getting permission first can allow a bit more wiggle room regarding the line. An official 'this is okay' from the mods ahead of time should prevent you getting a surprise infraction/ban later on. In other words, in this case, asking permission is much easier in the long run than asking forgiveness after the fact.

 

[Rafiki]

Any news on the status of the website?
Or whether Pusakuronu has finished the next episode and will be posting it somewhere on the net?