TheEcchiSessha said:
My idea was Saber's wish meerly placed Shirou in her shoes....in an alternate dimension. So the wish didn't acutally take away Saber's burden but instead placed the same burden on Shirou.
If that wasn't a "tainted" wish, I don't know what is. Basically, Shirou gets boned and Saber still has to fight in the Wars. My understanding about the "Throne of Heros" is it's kinda like "The End of Time" in Chrono Trigger. So it exists in every dimension and yet outside their influence. Saber's wish was suppose to be "Change it so someone else would take my place and save everyone." She was wanting the past itself changed. She instead got "Make someone else go through the same thing I did." So Shirou instead is forced into the role and gets boned by fate as well. The "tainted" Grail kinda is like an evil genie.
Question, would Saber!Shirou be similar to Saber, that is, not quite an Eirei, or did he actually die and become a Heroic Spirit?
Hmm.. not quite certain.. I was planning for Saber!Shirou to be a tragic character, so I was leaning more towards "he dies and becomes a Heroic Spirit". But I have been know to change my mind.
Nope, Saber would already know that stuff. When summoned, Eirei sort of get an 'information download' that gives them the rundown of the situation. Normally, this is their instructions on what do to in the situation (who to kill, what to destory... etc.) but I believe this is how Saber first learned such stuff. What, what do you think Rider/Caster/Lancer did before hand? You need to remember that none of them are Japanese, and they're all summoned pretty close to the War's start. That's no way near enough time to learn Japanese and any other needed skills.
Good point. This is why I like feedback. Smacks me in the face and sets me straight. :snigger:
In F/SN, Caliburn is a separate sword. It was the "King Selection" sword, and while powerful, it later got lost/destroyed (not sure which) and Arthur got Excalibur from the Lady of the Lady.
In some legends, Caliburn is the "Sword in the Stone" and its destroyed during one of Arthur's fights. It is then reforged by the Lady of the Lake into Excalibur. Other legends say its a different sword all together but its destroyed and Arthur recieves his new Sword, Excalibur, from the Lady of the Lake.
I was gonna go with the second set of legends. My version is Saber!Shirou never breaks Caliburn and therefore never needs to receive Excalibur. Of course, this could all change at the drop of a hat. :sweat:
BTW, I get most of my info from Wikipedia.org. :sisi:
Kirei's actually a pretty interesting villain. The anime really didn't do him justice.
The entire series is smoothed over in the anime. Lots of important facts and events are left out to make it fit into the length they needed. Not to mention they combined all three scenarios together. :huh!: But yeah Kirei is a good villain. But he's a villain that feels human.
You can almost feel sorry for him at times. Then he shows he's a true bastard and makes you hate him all over again. :headbanger:
Shirou Saber needs to have the Avalon or a different S class noble phantasm or Gilgamesh would just pound him into the ground.
In regard to this, (should have addressed it earlier :sweat: ) I was think about using Shirou's tracing abilities to counter Gilgamesh. He could trace Avalon like he does in both the game and anime. Only thing is he wouldn't get it's auto-regen ability and he could only use it for a short while. So it wouldn't save him from a fatal blow he has already recieved. However, it would be able to reflect Gilgamesh's attacks. If this seems kinda over-powered, i'm up for suggestions.
Feel free to refute anything I've said. I could be completely wrong. -_- Been wrong before, likey wrong this time too. Again, if I come off as rude or something, Sorry not really good at speaking with others. :unsure:
Looking for more suggestions and looking for a writer. Of course most everyone on the boards are busy with their own ideas so :huh.: .
Work owns my soul... :help:
~The Ecchi Sessha