Naruto Baa-chan and Clock

[Typhonis]

Here are two ideas up for adoption.

Baa-chan

Tsunade and Jiriya had a one night stand.The result is Arashi..though Jiriya is unaware he is his son.Things go as per manga till after Tsunade becomes Hokage. She is going through Narutos records when she screamns in rage and frustration.

Sarutobi never told her Arashis child had survived nor that he was the Kyuubi container.....


Clock.

Mitaroshi Ankos biological clock has just gone off......and she chooses Naruto to be the father of her baby after thinking through all of the potential canidates.....

 

[nuclear death frog]

The first one is an interesting idea, but the difference in ages makes it incredibly unlikely, if not impossible.

Tsunade and Jiraiya are fifty at the start of canon, and Naruto is twelve. When Naruto was born, Tsunade (his grandmother here) would be thirty-eight. But that generation in between has to be accounted for. If "Arashi" was born when Tsunade was fifteen (as an example), that means he could be no more than twenty-three at his death. And every year older that you make Tsunade a new parent is a year younger her son is before his self-sacrifice. If you let her have finished her teens, you make it so that he wouldn't have finished his teens before becoming Hokage, and then a corpse.

And I doubt The Third would have handed the job of Hokage to a teenager, no matter how good he was.

 

[Typhonis]

Well would they work as Narutos parents? Just Sarutobi kept it hidden from Tsunade till after she sees Narutos medical files. One night stand with Jiriya and wallah.

 

[holyknight]

The first one is an interesting idea, but the difference in ages makes it incredibly unlikely, if not impossible.

Tsunade and Jiraiya are fifty at the start of canon, and Naruto is twelve. When Naruto was born, Tsunade (his grandmother here) would be thirty-eight. But that generation in between has to be accounted for. If "Arashi" was born when Tsunade was fifteen (as an example), that means he could be no more than twenty-three at his death. And every year older that you make Tsunade a new parent is a year younger her son is before his self-sacrifice. If you let her have finished her teens, you make it so that he wouldn't have finished his teens before becoming Hokage, and then a corpse.

And I doubt The Third would have handed the job of Hokage to a teenager, no matter how good he was.

hehehehehe........for you...three words:


Godaime Kazekage Gaara.

now....what you were saying?

Also...Shiki Fuujin, Rasengan, Hiraishin...etc, etc.....

The Naruto world respects power, Skill and Wisdom...And Arashi had the three on spades...specially after the Iwa-Konoha war...Age is irrelevant........

can you remind me about to what age Kakashi reached Jounin?....or Itachi the ANBU rank?

 

[nuclear death frog]

Well, you could have it that labor was so difficult on Tsunade that she lost consciousness during it, and the Ninetails attacked while it was going on. If the Fourth just took a random infant from the hospital ward, and carried him aong on Gamabunta all the way to the battlefield...

Then it would be POSSIBLE. But still unlikely.

 

[nuclear death frog]

The first one is an interesting idea, but the difference in ages makes it incredibly unlikely, if not impossible.

Tsunade and Jiraiya are fifty at the start of canon, and Naruto is twelve. When Naruto was born, Tsunade (his grandmother here) would be thirty-eight. But that generation in between has to be accounted for. If "Arashi" was born when Tsunade was fifteen (as an example), that means he could be no more than twenty-three at his death. And every year older that you make Tsunade a new parent is a year younger her son is before his self-sacrifice. If you let her have finished her teens, you make it so that he wouldn't have finished his teens before becoming Hokage, and then a corpse.

And I doubt The Third would have handed the job of Hokage to a teenager, no matter how good he was.

hehehehehe........for you...three words:


Godaime Kazekage Gaara.

now....what you were saying?

What the Sand does with Gaara is their own business.

I was talking about the Leaf, and Sarutobi. I have a hard time seeing him hand the title of Hokage over to a teenager. If you don't, that's your problem.

Besides, the Leaf's Fourth wasn't a jinchuuriki as far as we know. Gaara is.

 

[Deathwings]

Personnaly, if I remember correctly, Sandaime was what ? Around 12 when he became Hokage if some of the informations I have seen on THIS BOARD aren't utter crap...

So the idea of a teenage hakage is perfectly possible...

 

[nuclear death frog]

Personnaly, if I remember correctly, Sandaime was what ? Around 12 when he became Hokage if some of the informations I have seen on THIS BOARD aren't utter crap...

So the idea of a teenage hakage is perfectly possible...

I don't remember that being in the manga, although I've seen it as a FANFIC idea.

 

[cilrais]

I always thought Arashi wasn't very old when he died, somewhere around 20-24.

 

[Mighty Bob]

During the Sand-Sound invasion part of the anime, Sarutobi has a flashback about the First and Second Hokage telling him about protecting the village because the next day he's going to be Hokage, and he looks about 13ish in that flashback. Don't recall that scene in the manga though so no idea how 'canon' it is.

 

[Pirazy]

The scene where Shodai and Nidaime tell Sarutobi that he's gonna be Hokage is anime-only, the manga only shows pictures of Sarutobi's, the Sannin's and the Yondaime's genin-cells, plus the Rookie 9 and Iruka.

The youngest we've seen Sarutobi in the Hokage-getup is from the same chapter (122), where he looks to be about.. umm.. it's really hard to judge his age, especially since he's always had that high hairline.. but I'm guessing somewhere around 20-30.

 

[toraneko]

Well, you could have it that labor was so difficult on Tsunade that she lost consciousness during it, and the Ninetails attacked while it was going on. If the Fourth just took a random infant from the hospital ward, and carried him aong on Gamabunta all the way to the battlefield...

Then it would be POSSIBLE. But still unlikely.

Reread what Typhonis posted, NDF. Yes, I've seen that particular idea done before, but this one is different - the postulate here is that Tsunade is YONDAIME's mother, not Naruto's.

Given what little we know for certain about the timeline, I think it's chronologically feasible. As for the likelihood of such a coupling, well... Shinobi, life or death situations, war, "remind me I'm still alive..." etc.

Yeah, I can see it. Question is, what's going to be done with it?

 

[nuclear death frog]

The opening post of the thread has Tsunade as Naruto's GRANDMOTHER. Typhonis revised it to Naruto's mother when I pointed out the issues with timing.

What you quoted was my suggestions of how to make it so that Tsunade could reasonably be Naruto's MOTHER.

 

[toraneko]

Egg? On my face? :headbanger:

Either way, the "Tsunade is really Yondaime's mother" angle works better in my opinion. If she had him at around age 16, it fits pretty well.

 

[nuclear death frog]

Egg? On my face? :headbanger:

Either way, the "Tsunade is really Yondaime's mother" angle works better in my opinion. If she had him at around age 16, it fits pretty well.

It's easier to make Tsunade into the Fourth's mom if you increase her canon age. It doesn't have to be a lot -- say, ten years.

If Tsunade and Jiraiya (and Orochimaru) are 60 at the start of canon (and Sarutobi is 78 instead of 68), Tsunade could have had her kid at 20 and the Fourth would have been approaching thirty when he died. If she's sixteen as above, that means the Fourth would have passed thirty by the time of his death.




As an aside, wouldn't that family basically be Konoha's nobility now? The First Hokage was Tsunade's grandfather; Tsunade became The Fifth; and her son became The Fourth. Plus, the First and Second were apparently brothers.

That makes four of the first five people to hold that title from the same family, and we have no idea if the Third was related to them in some way. He might have been; he might not have been.

 

[Typhonis]

Any comments on my Anko idea? I had this image from reading Dhampyrs fic of her sitting strait, having a look of enlightenment on her face and saying to the horror of Asuma and Jin..."I got to have a baby"

Loooking at them ,, after going over her options of whom could knock her up..." You know you two are right...since Iruka is on a mission Naruto is the obvious choice...Thanks"

 

[Moshulel]

Mitaroshi Ankos biological clock has just gone off......and she chooses Naruto to be the father of her baby after thinking through all of the potential canidates.....

Question: If you really want to get "down to business* why just Anko's clock?

It's easier to make Tsunade into the Fourth's mom if you increase her canon age. It doesn't have to be a lot -- say, ten years.

Heh, seen a fic where she was Naruto's mom. I don't get it though why everyone points at the fourth, what about the mom being her child? *Much easier to do it that way.*

 

[nuclear death frog]

Heh, seen a fic where she was Naruto's mom. I don't get it though why everyone points at the fourth, what about the mom being her child?? *Much easier to do it that way.*

Because we know basically nothing about Naruto's mother. If the Fourth is Naruto's father (in canon), we at least know what the Fourth looked like, even though we don't know his name or any significant personal details. But the kid's mother is virtually a blank slate.

 

[Moshulel]

Because we know basically nothing about Naruto's mother. If the Fourth is Naruto's father (in canon), we at least know what the Fourth looked like, even though we don't know his name or any significant personal details. But the kid's mother is virtually a blank slate.

Which makes her easier to work with. This way you don't have to juggle around with Tsunade's age...

 

[Typhonis]

Well it could work this way...

After Dans death Tsunade is comforted or gets drunnk with Jiriya... she gets pregnant. Everyone thinks it`s Dans child and she doesn`t have the courage to say otherwise...trying to protect Jiriya from the repurcusions.

She was elsewhere, maybe helping an outlying village not close enough to get back in time,when Kyuubi attacked.She returned in time to help bury her son....she was so dirstraught she never thought to ask if his chilkd had been born. The mother could be anyone at this point...

Tsunade doesn`t learn that Naruto is related till the time skip or possibly earlier

 

[Prince Charon]

Well it could work this way...

After Dans death Tsunade is comforted or gets drunnk with Jiriya... she gets pregnant. Everyone thinks it`s Dans child and she doesn`t have the courage to say otherwise...trying to protect Jiriya from the repurcusions.

She was elsewhere, maybe helping an outlying village not close enough to get back in time,when Kyuubi attacked.She returned in time to help bury her son....she was so dirstraught she never thought to ask if his chilkd had been born. The mother could be anyone at this point...

Tsunade doesn`t learn that Naruto is related till the time skip or possibly earlier

That fits.

 

[Moshulel]

Everyone thinks it`s Dans child and she doesn`t have the courage to say otherwise...trying to protect Jiriya from the repurcusions.

Hard to make it work. I don't see her leaving the village and her kid like that...

 

[nuclear death frog]

Heh, I just thought of something evil.

The Fourth as Naruto's father. Tsunade as the mother. Older woman, younger man.


Okay. Picture it. Private delivery. Only attended by Tsunade, The Fourth, The Third, and Jiraiya. Nobody else.

Tsunade loses consciousness during delivery (pick a reason; any reason). The menfolk have some knowledge of medical ninjutsu but nothing really advanced. They don't know anything to revive her, but they have enough knowledge to know that her condition is stable and not life-threatening.

Then the Ninetails attacks. The Fourth takes his newborn son and rides to the battle on Gamabunta. End result: The Fourth is dead; the demon is sealed in his and Tsunade's newborn son.

Tsunade doesn't regain consciousness for a couple days. The only people in Konoha who knew for a fact that Tsunade and The Fourth had been lovers were the people who attended the delivery. Sarutobi and Jiraiya have reached an agreement never to talk about the events that just occurred even among themselves, much less among others. "Uzumaki Naruto" is a false name with no significance to either parent; and there is no Uzumaki clan in Konoha. Futhermore, in interests of security, they will lie to Tsunade and say that her son was stillborn; she was unconscious and would be none the wiser. However, Jiraiya's price for this is that he's leaving the village, possibly for good. Tsunade leaves, heartbroken, of her own accord.

When Tsunade becomes Hokage some dozen years later, The Third is dead and the only person who knows what really happened is Jiraiya himself.

 

[ttestagr]

The problem with that is why would Sandaime and Jiraiya lie to Tsunade? I can't see either of them doing so. For this type of story, the best route would probably be that it was the hospital nins and nurses themselves who lied to her because the child was now the demon. That idea has been used before, but it is the scenario that makes most sense to me.

 

[nuclear death frog]

The problem with that is why would Sandaime and Jiraiya lie to Tsunade? I can't see either of them doing so. For this type of story, the best route would probably be that it was the hospital nins and nurses themselves who lied to her because the child was now the demon. That idea has been used before, but it is the scenario that makes most sense to me.

I guess that works. I was just thinking "Who can be most easily silenced".

And where was it used before? I'd hoped it was original.