Konous said:
Sounds like a good defense FOR Bendis in my case.? But then again I think all characters should be abused to some extent, and Wolverine saying that after all he's been through makes sense to me.
I'm not entirely getting what you're meaning here. If you're referring to abuse as in putting the characters through the wringer, then yes I feel every character should experience that once in a good while. But that's not the sort of abuse I was discussing with that example.
I've read Wolverine for a long time. I can see Wolverine being angry and pissed about what happened that lead up to that. I could see him even going into a berserker rage. But screaming "Stop raping me!!" like that?
No. Just no.
That's the abuse of the other sort. That was writing Wolverine out-of-character. As much as I used to like Bendis, he's developed a habit of writing established characters out-of-character.
I'm thankful that he's bring back into the spotlight some interesting C-listers but that doesn't get him off the hook in my eyes.
Deathsheadx said:
they made him turn traitor, set sentinels on the xmen, try to kill a baby, shoot xavier, shoot forge, lose an arm and go off chasing cable through the timestream.
I think some context should be given to these events. First off, he's speaking of the events that have taken place in the recently-completed "Messiah Complex" crossover.
Why was Bishop trying to kill a baby? Because from the future he originated from, that baby grew up and became the Mutant Anti-Christ and caused a boatload of death and destruction, leading to mutant concentration camps. Bishop witnessed and experienced a lot of horrors during his childhood and if he could anything to prevent that future, he would. It's the age-old question: If you could time travel back to kill Adolf Hitler as a baby, would you? For Bishop the answer is yes.
Of course, the future is never set. The baby could also become the Mutant Savior.
But Bishop decided that he'd do whatever it takes to kill the baby. Which lead us to the 'shooting Forge' thing and the majority of the stuff above. Cable had the child in his possession and Bishop knew he'd go to Forge to get help. He shot Forge to get him out of the way and prepared a trap. He also did the Sentinel stuff.
Then a bunch of other stuff happened which lead to the Marauders getting a hold of the child and then a bunch of other crap happened that lead to this creature-monster that's breed to hunt down mutants chewing down Bishop's arm.
As for the whole 'shooting Xavier thing,' He was trying to nail Cable and the baby. Cable 'bodyslided' while he was shooting and Xavier got hit instead.
But don't worry about Charlie, he's still alive. He's just in a coma, as has been recently revealed. Read X-MEN: LEGACY (the retitled X-MEN ongoing) for more when it comes out.
One last thing...
If you didn't like "One More Day," I'd recommend hitting Newsarama and searching for an old article that came out a few weeks back concerning JMS' side of the story.
You'd get a delicious quote/paraphrase of Joe Quesada's from the mouth of JMS like "It's magic. We don't need to explain it."
If you want to understand more, just look for the article.
