BtVS Random Ideas Topic

[AnimeRonin]

It'll be good to see Morticia's and Gomez's reactions when they see their little boy again, though something tells me Morticia will insist on calling him 'Pubert'.

It's also nice to see Wednesday becoming quite the woman with a husband who truly loves her. Woe be unto whomever shows up to put a damper on this.

 

[DhampyrX2]

Anyone that has read Kate's work over at Twisting the Hellmouth knows that she's not much of a fan of the main cast with the exception of Spike. In fact she seems to make a habit there of writing various bash and revenge fics for the sake of trouncing everyone that isn't a bleached blonde attempted rapist. But one of her older fics, Dark Penalty, got me thinking. The crux of the thing is that the Wizarding World comes for Willow after the end of season six and sentences her to the Dementor's Kiss for her actions.

I know. Dark and depressing. But a couple of things really bothered me about it. One, the BRITISH Mininstry of Magick captured, tried, and essentially executed Willow. Willow, who is an American citizen and had never stepped foot in any degree of the Wizarding World. The other factor was she totally failed to acknowledge how the Scoobies themselves would react. The fic describes Ethan and Giles taking Xander to see what was left of Willow in Azkaban. I actually got into an argument with her about just how bad an idea that was on several levels.

Her response? Essentially something to the effect of "Xander is just the comic relief. He can't do anything."

Yeah. Let's take the guy that was willing to CUT OFF AMY'S HEAD at sixteen and take the closest thing he has to a sister away from him after he brought her back from the brink to save the world and then just dismiss him. Never mind that the MoM had no authority to act here whatsoever. All I could think was they better Obliviate EVERYONE connected to Willow really fast before the shit has time to hit the fan.

But, as I said before, it got me thinking. Just how would this play out? I can think of half a dozen reactions off the top of my head that would end BADLY for all of Wizarding Britain. The first, would be Xander and Buffy calling Riley and informing him of the whole mess. Somehow I don't think the US government would appreciate a splinter group of Brits kidnapping and executing US citizens without so much as a "by your leave."

My second thought was Xander going for vengeance himself. Remember that he was threatening to kill Buffy after the mess with the Master's bones when Willow was in danger. Of course vengeance could take several routes. My first thought would be a visit to D'Hoffryn himself. A simple wish like, "I wish those hypocritical bastards couldn't hide from the rest of the world anymore," could really put a wrench into the entire HP world. Couple that with calling in Riley and you could end up with Delta Force troops coming for wand wizards and witches as "terrorists" and the Statute of Secrecy meaning absolutely nothing. Especially of the wording of the wish erases the ability to obliviate muggle minds. Would he leave things to the military or start the anti-wizarding equivalent to the FoH?

The third route I considered was more comic-booky. Xander just saved the world only to have them destroy Willow's mind for his trouble. That sounds like One Bad Day to me. One Bad Day turned a comic-relief level villain like Red Hood into the Joker. One Bad Day had Frank Castle die in spirit with his family and gave birth to the Punisher. What would it do with Xander Harris when he has a huge target presented in front of him in the form of the Wizarding world? A world that thinks of muggles as mostly harmless and barely worth notice. A world that doesn't understand things like the fact you don't hear the crack of a gunshot until it's far too late to cast a shielding charm. Or what a silencer is. Or what that strange rectangular device with the words "Warning: Aim away from face" ( a claymore) is for. Yeah, I think he could do significant damage before they even knew he existed. Unfortunately, since he would start where Willow was taken, in Devon, well IIRC the Burrow is the closest collection of wand wizards in the area. Sorry Harry.

 

[trevelyan1983]

Your idea brings some interesting images to mind, Dham.

"Wanna see a magic trick, Mister Wizard? Look at this pencil."

"You know like in the movies just as the good guy is about to kill the bad guy, he cocks his gun. Now why didn't he have it cocked? Because that sound . . . is scary."

"Alchemy is making plastique from common chemicals found around the house. I'm a long-time student of the art."

 

[DhampyrX2]

I have to admit that the Joker's "magic trick" with the pencil has a certain appeal. Especially with the thought of wizards like Lucius or some of the less pleasant of the aurors. Auror Dawlish would work too as I have little regard for professional toadies.


But a part of me wants Xander to channel "Fumbles" from Robot Chicken as he takes out whole whole of GI Joe except for Duke with a .50 cal sniper rifle from over a mile away. I could easily see Ministry personnel panicking as they were taken out without even hearing the shots. Mafia-style hits on various wizards have an appeal too. Especially as this is in Britain and I could see Xander getting toys from IRA suppliers.

 

[Tsuki_CB]

So.... Dhampyr was that all you planned to write snippet wise? Or can we expect more some time?

 

[DhampyrX2]

So.... Dhampyr was that all you planned to write snippet wise? Or can we expect more some time?

Kind of pressed for time because I'm starting a new job. Things will be crazy for me for a while.

 

[The Eromancer]

So the idea is so stupidly obvious I'm baffled by it not having been done yet.

Alexander LeValle Harris gets called, and many people have made a big deal out of it, "The-One-Who-See's"

Well what if this had quite a bit more significance to it. Like Xander being a Grimm? As in "The Brothers Grimm" and more importantly from that latest show that came out in 2011, <a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grimm_%28TV_series%29' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Grimm</a>.

So from the very beginning of the series and possibly even before that Xander might very well have been seeing some very weird shit, hell it runs in bloodlines too so that now also gives a legitimate excuse for Tony (Xander's father) to be drunk all the damn time, if his is actually a family line that forgot about their heritage this would explain a lot about his father -not saying he gets any excuses though.

And honestly its not even really a super-power, monsters just can't hide what they are from him is all, no super strength, no precognitive ability, its nothing game breaking and best of all its somewhat CANON seeing as the 1st called him on having it, though they never went anywhere with it.

Hell I don't think even the Watcher's council would mind him sticking around the slayer if this were the case. I just always thought it a shame that Xander never really got to shine despite all the odds and the writers.

This also just gives a perfectly plausible excuse for Xander who gets to be proactive like we all would love to see but also since he's somewhat of an asset Giles might actually take him under his wing to give him some watcher training.

 

[nick012000]

I just always thought it a shame that Xander never really got to shine despite all the odds and the writers.

IIRC that's because the writer who was behind him went over to write on Angel, which is why Wesley suddenly became a badass.

 

[Prince Charon]

I just always thought it a shame that Xander never really got to shine despite all the odds and the writers.

IIRC that's because the writer who was behind him went over to write on Angel, which is why Wesley suddenly became a badass.

That, and there was a desire on the parts of some of the people who stayed for him to the the show's 'Everyman' (and unskilled in combat), no matter how implausible it is for him to stay that way and still both patrol and not die.

 

[roting_CORPSE]

I just always thought it a shame that Xander never really got to shine despite all the odds and the writers.

IIRC that's because the writer who was behind him went over to write on Angel, which is why Wesley suddenly became a badass.

That, and there was a desire on the parts of some of the people who stayed for him to the the show's 'Everyman' (and unskilled in combat), no matter how implausible it is for him to stay that way and still both patrol and not die.

it'd be fun to read a fic that gives Xander a Jackie Chan type of fighting ability. as in being able to use the environment and everything in ti to help him in a fight while still being funny.

 

[jaredstar]

so maybe a yahf where xander goes dressed as the Jackie Chan Adventures Jackie

 

[tasoli]

I was thinking an FMA type Alchemist Xander.

It isn't overpowered as Willow but as alchemist Xander could help a lot. His job would be make weapons mostly. What do you guys think? Would that work?

 

[roting_CORPSE]

so maybe a yahf where xander goes dressed as the Jackie Chan Adventures Jackie

that or him simply being a fan of jackie chan decides that fighting with whatever he can get his hands on, is the perfect style for someone without powers like him against stronger and multiple opponents.

 

[Prince Charon]

I was thinking an FMA type Alchemist Xander.

It isn't overpowered as Willow but as alchemist Xander could help a lot. His job would be make weapons mostly. What do you guys think? Would that work?

Probably. Like a lot of ideas here, it just needs a good writer.

 

[the DragonBard]

What if, when Buffy first showed up in Sunnydale, Cordelia was more like she'd been before ascending? A snarky half-demon with a good heart? Possibly protecting Xander, Willow, and Jessie from the bullies instead of being one herself.

Heck, she might even be dating Xander early.

 

[The Eromancer]

What if, when Buffy first showed up in Sunnydale, Cordelia was more like she'd been before ascending? A snarky half-demon with a good heart? Possibly protecting Xander, Willow, and Jessie from the bullies instead of being one herself.

Heck, she might even be dating Xander early.

:sweat2:

 

[Prince Charon]

What if, when Buffy first showed up in Sunnydale, Cordelia was more like she'd been before ascending?? A snarky half-demon with a good heart?? Possibly protecting Xander, Willow, and Jessie from the bullies instead of being one herself.

Heck, she might even be dating Xander early.

:sweat2:

What's wrong with it? The last sentence, or something else?

 

[the DragonBard]

What if, on the night when Rayne cast his Chaos spell, Buffy and Willow dressed in costumes that would have given them something to help them. Not power, but knowledge, skills, and most importantly, wisdom.

Say, Willow dressed as Zatanna, Molly Carpenter, or Scarlet Witch, both of them after they've done similar mental attacks to that which Willow did later in the series. If she kept some magical knowledge 'great,' if not, maybe she'd keep enough wisdom to see where she might go one day.

Buffy as a team leader, say Samantha Carter from SG-1 later in the series, or a female Captain America.

Not sure about Xander though, what he might become to gain more wisdom or skills. Maybe let him stay a soldier?

QUOTE (The Eromancer @ Oct 4 2012, 11:11 PM)

(the DragonBard @ Oct 5 2012, 12:08 AM)
What if, when Buffy first showed up in Sunnydale, Cordelia was more like she'd been before ascending?? A snarky half-demon with a good heart?? Possibly protecting Xander, Willow, and Jessie from the bullies instead of being one herself.

Heck, she might even be dating Xander early.

:sweat2:

What's wrong with it? The last sentence, or something else?

Yeah, what's wrong with it?

The last bit wasn't even meant to be that serious, just 'hey maybe.'

If I 'really' wanted to be silly, I'd have suggested Xander date both girls at the same time.

 

[roting_CORPSE]

Buffy as a team leader, say Samantha Carter from SG-1 later in the series, or a female Captain America.

Not sure about Xander though, what he might become to gain more wisdom or skills.? Maybe let him stay a soldier?

The Boss and Big Boss respectively.


alternatively

Death from Darksiders 2. being made a nephelim Xander can't really go out in the open so he mostly just bums out of Giles apartment or Willows house (whenever possible) and later maybe take residence in buffy's basement after joyce gets clued in.

all the while getting on most of everyone's nerves since he also inherited Death's snark and morbid humor.

and him getting awkward situation since his new body is taller and oddly shaped compared to a human making him a bit of a troublesome house guest.

oh and he kicks ass or whatever.

 

[The Eromancer]

QUOTE (The Eromancer @ Oct 4 2012, 11:11 PM)

(the DragonBard @ Oct 5 2012, 12:08 AM)
What if, when Buffy first showed up in Sunnydale, Cordelia was more like she'd been before ascending?á A snarky half-demon with a good heart?á Possibly protecting Xander, Willow, and Jessie from the bullies instead of being one herself.

Heck, she might even be dating Xander early.

:sweat2:

What's wrong with it? The last sentence, or something else?

Yeah, what's wrong with it?

The last bit wasn't even meant to be that serious, just 'hey maybe.'

If I 'really' wanted to be silly, I'd have suggested Xander date both girls at the same time. [/quote]
I dunno, really. Maybe its the personality shift that basically twists Cordelia's personality 90? for no other reason than, say, why not? While that's normally more than enough reason for me in life its not for most, like the other 98% of the world.

Point is to accomplish that you'd have to start with her Parents and work down from there, I mean this is no tiny flap of the butterfly's wings here. Your past defines who you are today and what choices you will make in the future which go hand in hand with who you will become. The get Cordelia there you'd have to have the IRS find out about her parents a LOOOOONG time before canon. And even then she might not turn out like you would like, in fact she most definitely would NOT if she didn't have the background like she did and the trials and tribulations she was put through to make it to that point.

Fact is you can't get that same Cordelia Chase without the overused plot of time travel-shenanigans and that's -again- overused.

Honestly you cheapen her character by suggesting it.

THAT'S why I :sweat2:

 

[the DragonBard]

Buffy as a team leader, say Samantha Carter from SG-1 later in the series, or a female Captain America.

Not sure about Xander though, what he might become to gain more wisdom or skills.á Maybe let him stay a soldier?

The Boss and Big Boss respectively.


alternatively

Death from Darksiders 2. being made a nephelim Xander can't really go out in the open so he mostly just bums out of Giles apartment or Willows house (whenever possible) and later maybe take residence in buffy's basement after joyce gets clued in.

The idea was stuff that gave them skills and wisdom to not make some of the mistakes they made in canon, and skills that would have made things easier for them.

Willow: Zatanna, Scarlet Witch, or Molly Carpenter to make her understand about the dangers of using magic the wrong way (Mind controlling friends not good)

Buffy: Samantha Carter or female Captain America for strategic and tactical abilities.

Xander: Maybe Batman for combat skills, and general knowledge.

I think it would be interesting.
Not overpowering, since not physical transformations would be happening. Just more skill with what they have.

I dunno, really. Maybe its the personality shift that basically twists Cordelia's personality 90? for no other reason than, say, why not? While that's normally more than enough reason for me in life its not for most, like the other 98% of the world.

Point is to accomplish that you'd have to start with her Parents and work down from there, I mean this is no tiny flap of the butterfly's wings here. Your past defines who you are today and what choices you will make in the future which go hand in hand with who you will become. The get Cordelia there you'd have to have the IRS find out about her parents a LOOOOONG time before canon. And even then she might not turn out like you would like, in fact she most definitely would NOT if she didn't have the background like she did and the trials and tribulations she was put through to make it to that point.

Fact is you can't get that same Cordelia Chase without the overused plot of time travel-shenanigans and that's -again- overused.

Honestly you cheapen her character by suggesting it.

THAT'S why I? :sweat2:

I could see the problem if she changed like that 'during the fic,' but saying she had something happen which made her a nice girl before the story started is bad? :huh!:

 

[roting_CORPSE]

and The Boss and Big Boss from Metal Gear series cant impart those knowledge and skills to them?

the decades of wars fought between the two should be sufficient.

and the Darksiders 2 bit was just added there since it popped in my head.

 

[the DragonBard]

and The Boss and Big Boss from Metal Gear series cant impart those knowledge and skills to them?

the decades of wars fought between the two should be sufficient.

and the Darksiders 2 bit was just added there since it popped in my head.

Mainly talking about the Darkside element.

 

[the DragonBard]

Another YAHF bit for Buffy.

Basically, in order to pool their resources, Xander suggests that, instead of using actual costumes, they build their own, with a few props from Ethans, and maybe other places.

So, the idea is to take several different pieces from different comic/TV/movie/game/novel characters, ones available at the time of the Halloween episode, and use them to give the Scoobies some fun bits.

Only limit is that, the pieces used have to be easily identifiable. Say Xena's chakram, Wonderwoman's tiara, braclets (pretty much most of her costume) etc.

Also, they shouldn't be anything 'really' overpowered, like Infinity Gauntlet, Super-Saiyan, or the Cosmic Cube.

 

[tasoli]

okey something I put up in Sb before I am posting here to see if there is any interest.
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An idea. the night of zepppo there isn't any zombies around so Xanders still feeling humilitied decides to leave the sunnydale and actually go to road trip as he wants to find himself wich he wasn't able to do in canon. He leaves and has many adventure on the road (Maybe get a power which is explained at below) than he comes to a city like NY and finds out City doesn't have any good guys to protect it. cue Xander the Series type adventures where he gathers a gang. than maybe some one like Oz and Amy or Anya comes around from canon to join to it.

Fleshing out the City would be impotant I think. A few of my ideas is;

A big bad which story would focus but other side missions along the way to help people.

A gang of werewolfs which has a bar on the seedy part of town.

A criminal boss wich learned about night life and is traying to clean out his territory.

A technomage in the pursuit of new technologies.

A potential slayer whose watcher killed and she is looking for the killer.

A Newspaper building bombed for looking in to workings of a demon clans wich Xander can take over to set shop.
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I was thinkin about giving Xander a power without OP him than I remembered this old bunny of mine.
As for power I was thinkin Xander would meet a group of people who are practioner of magic but since they have little amount of power for conventional magic they insted focus on one thing and one thing only. By doing that they become very good since they are focused, but because of that they lose all potential of other magic. So Someone who chooses to become Pyromancer will be able to control any amount of fire not burned by fire and can pretty much burn anything.

Xander realising he should his own niche in fighting decides to do something like that but a big weakness in mancer type of magic is that someone who is immunue to your magic can secrew you over so doing something as common as pyromancy doesn't appeal to him instead choosing to something more exotic which he comes across at the start of the story(which is from oWoD).Temporis

Since it is so exotic disipline that very few knows Xander can challange a lot of big bads without coming acroos to some demon which is imminue to his abilities. but every now and than he comee across a someone who has temporal abilities which keeps Xander in his toes. Also learning the basic skill would take entire story By the end of it (around season 7) Xander would retun to fight against The First. By then he would have barely started to study advanced abilities of Temporis.