Crossovers

GenocideHeart

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#26
Israfel said:
Woah woah woah.

Freddie was quoted as saying "I'm as a gay as a daffodil."

BUT he was not a pedophile. Gary Glitter was. But not Freddie Mercury.
When a guy's preferred lover is a boy under the age of 15 I think that counts as pedophilia.
I was under the impression that pedophilia was age 12 and below, and 13-up was simply underage.
 
#27
In Japan, it's considered exquisite taste. Because Japan is weird like that.

In Texas, it's considered becoming a target. A big, juicy piece of game for which the season is always open. Because Texas is psycho like that.
 

GenocideHeart

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#28
Dark Knight Gafgar said:
In Japan, it's considered exquisite taste. Because Japan is weird like that.

In Texas, it's considered becoming a target. A big, juicy piece of game for which the season is always open. Because Texas is psycho like that.
And in Soviet Russia, the lolis molest YOU!

...maybe I should move to Soviet Russia... :unsure:
 

hawker_748

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#29
In an ideal world, they'd be thrown into the general population of a prison, and let nature take its course...

New 'Skinner' in his first day in prison:

(Sniveling voice): "What's happening over there?"

Ordinary 'decent' criminal: "They're havin' a knife fight to see who gets to fuck ya first. Oh, don't worry, they're ALL gonna fuck ya, but they're just figuring out the order..."

Even axe-killers loathe kiddie rapers...

Sad, when cons have a better sense of justice than judges...
 
#30
Damn straight.
 

Israfel

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#31
I was under the impression that pedophilia was age 12 and below, and 13-up was simply underage.
If it was somebody around that age then (like 15 year old with a 19 year old) then it would just be statutory rape but when it's a guy in his late 30's with a 15 year old (or younger) then I consider that pedophilia.

In an ideal world, they'd be thrown into the general population of a prison, and let nature take its course...

New 'Skinner' in his first day in prison:

(Sniveling voice): "What's happening over there?"

Ordinary 'decent' criminal: "They're havin' a knife fight to see who gets to fuck ya first. Oh, don't worry, they're ALL gonna fuck ya, but they're just figuring out the order..."

Even axe-killers loathe kiddie rapers...

Sad, when cons have a better sense of justice than judges...
Yup pretty much, if you're a child molester and you go to jail you're pretty much fucked (literaly and figuratively) because nobody likes a child molester, even serial killers, child molester usually last about a month in jail before their bodies turn up somewhere, go go mob rule corporal punishment!
 

SimmyC

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#32
Yeah. Depends on the age. I mean, it still feels weird/wrong for a 40 year old to be with a 20 year old. Even though that is certainly legal. Now, 40 year old and a 15 year old... that is pretty much pedophilia there even if it 'isn't as bad' if the girl was younger. As if you can quantify how 'wrong' it can be. <_<

And yes, Child Molestors are even looked down by other criminals. No one respects them, and no one should.
 

GenocideHeart

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#33
SimmyC said:
Yeah. Depends on the age. I mean, it still feels weird/wrong for a 40 year old to be with a 20 year old. Even though that is certainly legal. Now, 40 year old and a 15 year old... that is pretty much pedophilia there even if it 'isn't as bad' if the girl was younger. As if you can quantify how 'wrong' it can be. <_<

And yes, Child Molestors are even looked down by other criminals. No one respects them, and no one should.
Ah, but what if it's the 15 years old who does the seducing? 'Lolita' comes to mind...

Automatically assuming it HAS to be the older party's fault is just as wrong as the concept of younger and older.
 

SimmyC

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#34
True. Sometimes it isn't always the older party's fault here. But does that make it anymore right since in theory, the older party is supposed to be the reasonable logical one?

Each case is unique. And right and wrong are a bit blurred. But again, when someone is in their 40s, you'd think they have the smarts to stop the advancement.
 

GenocideHeart

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#35
SimmyC said:
True. Sometimes it isn't always the older party's fault here. But does that make it anymore right since in theory, the older party is supposed to be the reasonable logical one?

Each case is unique. And right and wrong are a bit blurred. But again, when someone is in their 40s, you'd think they have the smarts to stop the advancement.
Being older doesn't necessarily mean having willpower. By nature, humans seek the opposite sex out. I can't fault anyone for acting on their instincts - after all, humans are animals. We just don't like to admit it, but we are.
 

Israfel

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#36
Being older doesn't necessarily mean having willpower. By nature, humans seek the opposite sex out. I can't fault anyone for acting on their instincts - after all, humans are animals. We just don't like to admit it, but we are.
Ahh but that's the thing, Freddy Mercury didn't seek out the opposite sex, and not to mention he was with many boys and you can't tell me they all came onto him first and that he was just a helpless bystander in all this swept away by their perverted wiles, it's just not gonna' cut it.
 

SimmyC

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#37
Well I think GenocideHeart was talking in general about pedophila/underaged relationships. He wasn't saying that all cases the older party is innocent. I might even go out on a limb and say most cases they aren't. But there will always be those minor exceptions.
 

Israfel

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#38
Well I think GenocideHeart was talking in general about pedophila/underaged relationships. He wasn't saying that all cases the older party is innocent. I might even go out on a limb and say most cases they aren't. But there will always be those minor exceptions.
Meh I know, but the argument was about Freddy Mercury's pedophilia, not people's in general so I thought I should at leats close that argument before we got to far off on another one.
 
#39
Let's just bring this argument to a swift end and state that all child molestors should be sentenced to life in an Arabic (or Asian) prison enduring tortures that will make them beg to lie in the bowels of hell!
 

runestar

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#40
Well, having read 2 CCS/DnAngel crossevers that were, IMO, quite well done overall, I daresay such a pairing is actually quite viable. Can't remember how to go about searching for them now, however. :(

And on a side note, I realised that while it is (to some extent), considered okay for an older man to be seeing a much younger girl, the converse is still met with much resistance and ridicule. Thought's on that?
 

Lord Raa

Exporter of Juice Tins
#41
And on a side note, I realised that while it is (to some extent), considered okay for an older man to be seeing a much younger girl, the converse is still met with much resistance and ridicule. Thought's on that?

That should be left to another discussion. This one was for crossoves.

Bloody thread-jackers!
 

GenocideHeart

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#42
Lord Raa said:
And on a side note, I realised that while it is (to some extent), considered okay for an older man to be seeing a much younger girl, the converse is still met with much resistance and ridicule. Thought's on that?

That should be left to another discussion. This one was for crossoves.

Bloody thread-jackers!
Mwahahahaha. Fear the threadjacking squad.
 

runestar

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#43
Whoops, my bad, I saw where the discussion was going on pedophilia and thought it would a natural extension of that. :p

Well, back to the regular slotted discussion...
 

SimmyC

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#44
This thread is about crossovers... and thanks to the thread jackers (me included. :p) it turned into a discussion about pedophila.

Anyways, back on topic, I think even some bizarre crossovers 'could' work in the right hands. Of course, the more bizarre the crossover, the more bizarre the story has to be. I mentioned that in these cases, it would have to go the Excel Saga route and just be one huge comedy feast with massive randomness. Of course, the problem here might be massive OOCness. But still, I think even these have a possiblity of working.
 
#45
On the topic of odd crossovers, I have to reccommend Bobbin Cranbud's Convergence once again. Cross over FFVI, FFVII, Lunar: SSSC, Suikoden, a boatload of other games and RPGs (Lavos from CT is mentioned, for example), and make it rock? Excellent work on the author's part.

And how about Chris Homer's Mako Crossover, which takes FFVII, Street Fighter, Tekken, and Pokemon, for pete's sake, puts the whole shebang together, and turns out at least halfway decent? That's an accomplishment. Admittedly, it's like accomplishing a world record for surviving bungey-jump (or however you spell it) accidents, but it's still something few if any others have done.
 

Hawk

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#46
I'm a crossoveroholic m'self, even if I've toned it down A WHOLE LOT in recent years. These days, I usually settle for crossing anime with anime in some slight manner ( Like Kitsune being friends with Tina Foster or the Urashima's being less then fond of Kodachi for assaulting Kanako in the past ) or perhaps just by mentioning something from another fandom then the one the fic is set in ( like Kasumi wearing Azumanga Daioh panties ), or by involving White Wolf's World of Darkness in some manner ( Keitaro becomming Kindred sorta springs to mind ).

Certainly nothing like my older fics set in the Hawkverse, where we have F/X - The Series, X-Files, various Marvel Comics ( primarily X-men, X-Force, Excalibur, Spider-Man and Generation X ), various DC Comics and tv-series ( Primarily Lois & Clark - The New Adventures of Superman ), World of Darkness, THE FRICKIN' POWERPUFF GIRLS, Casca, Remo, Charmed, Kindred - The Embraced, Friends, Tomb Raider, Spawn, Witchblade, Darkness, Street Fighter, Tenchi Muyo, Love Hina, Ranma, Farscape, greek mythology, Aliens, Wing Commander, X-Com, Independence Day and probably even more that I've forgotten all about by now, in one single wonderful Mary Sue:ish world. Now that's an AU. :)

*shakes head*

I really should devote some attention to some of my unfinished Hawk-fics one of these days, lots of fun to write, they were. Not to mention that I'm still in the middle of revising some of the oldest ones.


Anyways, while I am a fan of writing crossovers, I'm not very inclinded to read crossovers.

Especially certain types of crossovers, R?/SM is for instance something I'd read only if some fic was recommended to me by someone I share similar taste in fics with.

But when I do read crossovers, I prefer crossovers that are at least somewhat compatible to each other ( Unlike my own Hawkverse. I mean, A Mary Sue character, X-Men and the Powerpuff Girls in a darkfic? What was I on when I came up with that idea? ), like say the first and third season of Full Metal Panic and the entirety of Noir. Both are action-packed and set in a corrupt world. The timelines aren't entirely compatible and the tech levels are kinda differing, but it could be made to work without changing all that much around.

Or say the Fumoffu-season of FMP and Azumanga Daioh. Silly little things, both of them, but they could conceivably be made to work very well together with relatively minor changes.

Or Resident Evil and Neon Genesis Evangelion, for something really dark'n gritty.

Love Hina and Aliens? Well, I'd probably check it out for the novelty factor if I came across one, but unless it's really well written, I'd probably drop it before even finishing the first chapter. One is a humoristic school-life romance comedy thingie while the other is supposed to be dark'n gritty horrific thriller-thingie. Unless the transition from the LH comedy angle into a more Alien-like mood is preformed admirably, I'd never finish reading such a crossover.
 
#47
There's a fic on FF.net that's a crossover between Love Hina and Warhammer 40k. Pretty short thus far, but what's there is good. I'd link it if not for the fact that I'm too lazy to hunt down the url.
 

H-Man

Random phantom.
#48
Someone once did an Ed, Edd, n' Eddy/Warhammer 40K crossover.

It had three sequels and its own homepage, even.
 
#49
HERETIC! BURN THE HERETIC!
 

Hawk

Well-Known Member
#50
3E/W40K? Ugh, wouldn't touch that one with a ten-foot pole even if someone paid me to do it.

It's a shame that most cartoons these days generally makes me want to slit my throat rather then watch them. I found Spawn, Batman Beyond and X-Men Evolution enjoyable, I can sit down and watch Dexters Laboratory and the Powerpuff girls for the quirky humour even if I find them lacking otherwise, but other then those I haven't found a single non-anime cartoon made in the last deccade worth watching.

Though I still enjoy the heck out of old Woody Woodpecker, Disney shorts and Loony Toons whenever they're on the air or included in some DVD I've purchased.
 
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