Son of the Batman get's animated.
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See, TTG for me? While not anywhere near as good as the original TT as a cartoon, is still intermittently hilarious. Every now and again they'll have an episode which just makes me bust a gut laughing amidst the many other episodes that just try to hard. The Trigon episode for example. I would have much preferred more TT, YJ, GL, and any other Action Shows, but if this is all the network wants to make then this is all the network wants to make.
I just find it unfortunate that Cartoon Network seems to hate action shows in general, while Marvel/Disney is raking it in with theirs afaik.
I just find it unfortunate that Cartoon Network seems to hate action shows in general, while Marvel/Disney is raking it in with theirs afaik.
You had to love the TTG ep where Cy and BB were in a staring contest for like a decade over a piece of pizza only to "wake up" to a future where Star is Queen of Tamaran, Raven is a goddess, and Dick has become Nightwing, the henpecked husband of Bab/Batgirl with a baby of his own. And the reasons Cyu and BB come back in time to "fix" the future? They had everybody lecturing them on responsibility, they think Batgirl is a biotch, and they want to save Dick from ever having a mullet.
JLA Adventures: Trapped in Time
I like it but it feels like its a pilot for a tv show.
Justice League WAR
The best of the two.
I like it but it feels like its a pilot for a tv show.
Justice League WAR
The best of the two.
I've not watched a lot of DC animation recently. Honestly not regularly since Batman the Animated Series and a few episodes here and there of other shows with the occasional animated movie from time to time since.
However, I did read comics for a long time, and I've just started watching TT Go and find it quite entertaining. It's a parody show meant to be funny more than anything serious. It's pretty much an omake that has been turned into an entire show. I know enough about the characters and Universe to get the in jokes and gags. I think the haters of the show are wishing it was more Teen Titans and it's not supposed to be. It's more akin to Powerpuff Girls or MLP FIM in tone than a mainline DC property would be, and it's great for what it is.
I didn't watch TT and have only seen a few clips and a couple of episodes. It was a great show from what I've seen and I'm considering picking it up to check it out. Netflix has it and I'll rent a season before I drop the cash for the whole thing. [Sadly it's not available streaming yet.] I wouldn't have considered it if I hadn't decided to check out TT Go on a whim.
I don't see how it's a 'travesty'. People who claim that seem to have gone in expecting it to be something it's not. It's a goofy kids show with a lot of in jokes and Easter Eggs that only adults and long time comic book fans will get. Such as Cyborg being dressed as Fred Flinstone when playing "Caveman and Dinosaur" with Beast Boy, or Azrael's Knightfall costume appearing in the Batcave.
It's a cute goofy parody show with lots of gags that is meant to be more of a DC comics spin on something like Animaniacs rather than an action cartoon about superheros fighting evil and dealing with serious issues. I like it because I went into it expecting a goofy exaggerated version of familiar characters, and that's exactly what I got.
However, I did read comics for a long time, and I've just started watching TT Go and find it quite entertaining. It's a parody show meant to be funny more than anything serious. It's pretty much an omake that has been turned into an entire show. I know enough about the characters and Universe to get the in jokes and gags. I think the haters of the show are wishing it was more Teen Titans and it's not supposed to be. It's more akin to Powerpuff Girls or MLP FIM in tone than a mainline DC property would be, and it's great for what it is.
I didn't watch TT and have only seen a few clips and a couple of episodes. It was a great show from what I've seen and I'm considering picking it up to check it out. Netflix has it and I'll rent a season before I drop the cash for the whole thing. [Sadly it's not available streaming yet.] I wouldn't have considered it if I hadn't decided to check out TT Go on a whim.
I don't see how it's a 'travesty'. People who claim that seem to have gone in expecting it to be something it's not. It's a goofy kids show with a lot of in jokes and Easter Eggs that only adults and long time comic book fans will get. Such as Cyborg being dressed as Fred Flinstone when playing "Caveman and Dinosaur" with Beast Boy, or Azrael's Knightfall costume appearing in the Batcave.
It's a cute goofy parody show with lots of gags that is meant to be more of a DC comics spin on something like Animaniacs rather than an action cartoon about superheros fighting evil and dealing with serious issues. I like it because I went into it expecting a goofy exaggerated version of familiar characters, and that's exactly what I got.
My major problem with Teen Titans Go, is that they canceled the significantly more interesting "Young Justice" to bring it to us. YJ was a great show that appeared to be heading in a very interesting direction and CN killed it dead. I am also annoyed by the fact that 'GO' abandons what seriousness there was in the original TT for a parody.
Now after watching Justice League Adventures, I have concerns that DC animated is losing it's touch. I mean the Batman/Superman adventures and Justice League Unlimited did some wonderful things with the source material and were highly creative works. TT GO (in my opinion) is not, and neither is JL Adventures.
Honestly, I should've known this was coming when WB put out 'Loonatics Unleashed'....which was just a bad idea all around.
Now after watching Justice League Adventures, I have concerns that DC animated is losing it's touch. I mean the Batman/Superman adventures and Justice League Unlimited did some wonderful things with the source material and were highly creative works. TT GO (in my opinion) is not, and neither is JL Adventures.
Honestly, I should've known this was coming when WB put out 'Loonatics Unleashed'....which was just a bad idea all around.
Not being serious is the entire point of TT Go. It doesn't 'abandon' it. It was never meant to be anything of the sort. Like I said, it's more akin to Animaniacs than a 'real' DCU animation. The reason it exists is to poke fun at some of the absurdities of the DC universe using Animaniacs style cameos and gags to drive the show rather than any real superhero action. It's far more Powerpuff girls than Batman, Superman, or whatever mainstream DC animation is out there.
What does TTG have to do with YJ anyway?
Young Justice was gone whether TTG was there or not. TTG was not produced to replace the show, it was put in it's place after it was canceled regardless. It was in production and being made whether YJ was there or not.
You make it sound as if TTG would not have existed if YJ had continued, and that is not the case. YJ would have been canceled even if they decided to fill the time slot with old episodes of He-man.
I can see being mad at CN for canceling the show and making bad decisions but TTG had nothing to do with it. It simply took over the empty time slot that resulted from YJ being canceled. YJ was doomed regardless of what took that spot in the schedule.
It's like blaming Fastlane for Firefly getting canceled. Regardless of whether or not you think it sucked, the Fastlane had nothing to do with what happened to Firefly. It was simply stuck where it was because the slot became open due to the cancellation.
What does TTG have to do with YJ anyway?
Young Justice was gone whether TTG was there or not. TTG was not produced to replace the show, it was put in it's place after it was canceled regardless. It was in production and being made whether YJ was there or not.
You make it sound as if TTG would not have existed if YJ had continued, and that is not the case. YJ would have been canceled even if they decided to fill the time slot with old episodes of He-man.
I can see being mad at CN for canceling the show and making bad decisions but TTG had nothing to do with it. It simply took over the empty time slot that resulted from YJ being canceled. YJ was doomed regardless of what took that spot in the schedule.
It's like blaming Fastlane for Firefly getting canceled. Regardless of whether or not you think it sucked, the Fastlane had nothing to do with what happened to Firefly. It was simply stuck where it was because the slot became open due to the cancellation.
And that is my problem, I just finished watching The Teen Titans episode 'Lightspeed' and compared it to what I've seen in GO, and I enjoyed the original more. I honestly feel TT had some fun with the silliness of DC while still telling some really interesting stories with the characters, something I do not feel GO accomplishes.
Also, if I wanted Animaniacs...I'd watch Animaniacs. This is exactly why I mentioned 'Loonatics Unleashed', as it's an example of WB mixing things together badly.
CN cancels another action show, and replaces it with a silly parody show that's not even as entertaining, to me, as the original series it's supposedly based on. Knowing this, why would I be inclined to support that decision by watching the show?
Now, despite my better judgment, I tried to watch the series and it just failed to entertain me. If you like it, fine enjoy. But I find it a step backward in art and animation, I find it unworthy of the previous legacy of quality animation from the DCU, and it's replacement of YJ is, to me, another example of CN choosing 'easy to make' over quality programing.
Also, if I wanted Animaniacs...I'd watch Animaniacs. This is exactly why I mentioned 'Loonatics Unleashed', as it's an example of WB mixing things together badly.
CN cancels another action show, and replaces it with a silly parody show that's not even as entertaining, to me, as the original series it's supposedly based on. Knowing this, why would I be inclined to support that decision by watching the show?
Now, despite my better judgment, I tried to watch the series and it just failed to entertain me. If you like it, fine enjoy. But I find it a step backward in art and animation, I find it unworthy of the previous legacy of quality animation from the DCU, and it's replacement of YJ is, to me, another example of CN choosing 'easy to make' over quality programing.
Not trying to convince you to watch or like the show. I'm just pointing out that you appear to be blaming it for things that it is not responsible for and are being critical of it because it's not being what it wasn't supposed to be in the first place.
Like I said, I liked what I've seen of Teen Titans and I'm thinking of checking the show out in a weekend marathon or something. I'll rent the first season before I put a bunch of money down to get it, but I've seen enough to know I'll be entertained at least. I might like it, but for different reasons.
It's not funny and you didn't find it entertaining are valid criticisms. That it took YJ's timeslot and YJ got canceled are not. Nor is it a valid criticism to say it's not like TT or YJ when it wasn't supposed to be in the first place. Just because there was something better on before it was does not make it worse. The existence of Batman the Animated Series did not make Batman Beyond any better or worse than it would have been if Batman TAS did not exist before it did.
The animation is not as detailed as YJ or TT, but it's very good for the type of show that it is. It's more style than quality that's the issue here. For a goofy omake style comedy show it's well animated and more concerned with expressive caricatures than detailed animation. It's a deliberate style choice and not 'cheaper lower quality animation' as you put it. I get that you might not care for the style, but again, you're making it sound like the show is failing at being something it's not even trying to be.
I get not being pleased at CN about what happened to YJ and some of the other programming as well. They presumably made a bad decision in canceling YJ, [and other shows] and angered quite a few fans. TT Go had nothing to do with that though. It was likely in production before the decision to cancel YJ was made and would have had a spot somewhere in the programming schedule regardless.
You seem to be relating TT Go's existence to the demise of YJ. It's like being mad at EA for canceling Command and Conquer and then not buying Mirrors Edge because it stole it's release date while still buying Titanfall and Sims 4 despite it. Also you've criticized TT Go for not being as high quality as Teen Titans, which is a bit like complaining that Weird Al's newest album is horrible because it changed the lyrics into the songs he parodied into jokes rather than just singing them true to how the original artist performed them and that the music isn't up to the quality standards of the original recordings either. It kind of misses the point of it all.
Not watching TT Go because you don't like it is fine and makes perfect sense, but you're not punishing the people who canceled YJ by not watching the show. Especially if you're still watching other programming on the network. If you're going to be mad at CN for canceling the show, be mad at CN and stop watching the network. Don't blame current programming on network executive decisions. If the displeasure about the fate of the programs you enjoyed that are no longer running is not worth the trouble of missing out on the shows you watch currently, then you probably aren't really all that upset about it.
I can't say whether TT Go is better or worse as I've not seen enough of TT or YJ to say. I'll probably check out YJ when it shows up on streaming video. As I understand it Netflix will be the eventual home of the DC nation stuff airing on CN right now. I don't watch television anymore, I don't own a DVR, and I don't care too. Streaming works just fine for me and that's how I watch pretty much everything these days aside from disk rentals and movie theaters. I get free cable where I live so I might catch an episode or something on the very rare occasion I do decide to channel surf, but that's pretty much the only way I'll ever catch an episode airing on CN. I'm not interested in sitting down at a regular time to keep up with any series via television and don't see the point of a DVR when I have plenty to watch via streaming services.
TT is pretty cheap on Amazon right now for the whole series. I'll rent the first season and then decide if I want to get the whole thing or not first though. I've seen a few episodes and clips so most likely I will.
Like I said, I liked what I've seen of Teen Titans and I'm thinking of checking the show out in a weekend marathon or something. I'll rent the first season before I put a bunch of money down to get it, but I've seen enough to know I'll be entertained at least. I might like it, but for different reasons.
It's not funny and you didn't find it entertaining are valid criticisms. That it took YJ's timeslot and YJ got canceled are not. Nor is it a valid criticism to say it's not like TT or YJ when it wasn't supposed to be in the first place. Just because there was something better on before it was does not make it worse. The existence of Batman the Animated Series did not make Batman Beyond any better or worse than it would have been if Batman TAS did not exist before it did.
The animation is not as detailed as YJ or TT, but it's very good for the type of show that it is. It's more style than quality that's the issue here. For a goofy omake style comedy show it's well animated and more concerned with expressive caricatures than detailed animation. It's a deliberate style choice and not 'cheaper lower quality animation' as you put it. I get that you might not care for the style, but again, you're making it sound like the show is failing at being something it's not even trying to be.
I get not being pleased at CN about what happened to YJ and some of the other programming as well. They presumably made a bad decision in canceling YJ, [and other shows] and angered quite a few fans. TT Go had nothing to do with that though. It was likely in production before the decision to cancel YJ was made and would have had a spot somewhere in the programming schedule regardless.
You seem to be relating TT Go's existence to the demise of YJ. It's like being mad at EA for canceling Command and Conquer and then not buying Mirrors Edge because it stole it's release date while still buying Titanfall and Sims 4 despite it. Also you've criticized TT Go for not being as high quality as Teen Titans, which is a bit like complaining that Weird Al's newest album is horrible because it changed the lyrics into the songs he parodied into jokes rather than just singing them true to how the original artist performed them and that the music isn't up to the quality standards of the original recordings either. It kind of misses the point of it all.
Not watching TT Go because you don't like it is fine and makes perfect sense, but you're not punishing the people who canceled YJ by not watching the show. Especially if you're still watching other programming on the network. If you're going to be mad at CN for canceling the show, be mad at CN and stop watching the network. Don't blame current programming on network executive decisions. If the displeasure about the fate of the programs you enjoyed that are no longer running is not worth the trouble of missing out on the shows you watch currently, then you probably aren't really all that upset about it.
I can't say whether TT Go is better or worse as I've not seen enough of TT or YJ to say. I'll probably check out YJ when it shows up on streaming video. As I understand it Netflix will be the eventual home of the DC nation stuff airing on CN right now. I don't watch television anymore, I don't own a DVR, and I don't care too. Streaming works just fine for me and that's how I watch pretty much everything these days aside from disk rentals and movie theaters. I get free cable where I live so I might catch an episode or something on the very rare occasion I do decide to channel surf, but that's pretty much the only way I'll ever catch an episode airing on CN. I'm not interested in sitting down at a regular time to keep up with any series via television and don't see the point of a DVR when I have plenty to watch via streaming services.
TT is pretty cheap on Amazon right now for the whole series. I'll rent the first season and then decide if I want to get the whole thing or not first though. I've seen a few episodes and clips so most likely I will.
I think part of the issue is that when TTG was first hinted at it was said to be a continuation of TT. Now, obviously a lot of people thought that meant that there would be more stuff like Teen Titans and when Teen Titans Go! turned out to be the parody show that it is fans of the old show were miffed.
There's also the fact that TTG swiftly became a network darling because its a low-cost comedy with high ratings in preferred demographics vs Young Justice which was a high-cost action show with low ratings in preferred demographics and high ones in non-preferred demographics, at least as far as the network cares.
Personally, I enjoyed YJ and TT more than I do TTG, but that doesn't mean that TTG doesn't have its own merits. I will say though that I find it to be Waaaaay more hit or miss than any other DC show I've seen in the last 20 years, but then I'm not exactly the preferred audience any more am I?
There's also the fact that TTG swiftly became a network darling because its a low-cost comedy with high ratings in preferred demographics vs Young Justice which was a high-cost action show with low ratings in preferred demographics and high ones in non-preferred demographics, at least as far as the network cares.
Personally, I enjoyed YJ and TT more than I do TTG, but that doesn't mean that TTG doesn't have its own merits. I will say though that I find it to be Waaaaay more hit or miss than any other DC show I've seen in the last 20 years, but then I'm not exactly the preferred audience any more am I?
Well, that didn't last long. Can't say I'm too surprised either given the total lack of support the DC nation block has been getting. Anybody got an in depth analysis on cost benefits on that? I know the ratings have been in 'improper' demographics but has the merchandising been so bad that they just can't get any support? I mean we're now at the point where for the first time in 20 odd years there won't be new DC action cartoons on tv.
Not that bothered by the loss, admittedly, because I never really got into BtB. But it is just another kick in the groin to see a quality show go down the crapper because of lack of ratings/network support.
It's a shame; I just spent the weekend watching the complete Young Justice series on dvd. God, I miss that show. Anyone know if the creators ever hinted at how the third season might have gone?
It's just getting harder and harder to find good, quality, entertaining toons anymore.
EDIT: Apparently, Stu Snider, the man who ran Cartoon Network, is leaving the company at the end of the month. Anyone think we'll get decent shows on CN now that he's gone?
It's a shame; I just spent the weekend watching the complete Young Justice series on dvd. God, I miss that show. Anyone know if the creators ever hinted at how the third season might have gone?
It's just getting harder and harder to find good, quality, entertaining toons anymore.
EDIT: Apparently, Stu Snider, the man who ran Cartoon Network, is leaving the company at the end of the month. Anyone think we'll get decent shows on CN now that he's gone?
No Idea. But given the current slate of programming this is probably a good thing. When CN changes execs the new ones tend to throw out other old one's projects or at least let them die on the vine. Can't have peoiple thinking your predecessors were competent now can you? Given that the only pure Action/Adventure shows on CN now is Ben 10 Omniverse, the others are comedy spliced in, this may be good news?
Well, the problem is that that sort of show gets made because its DIRT CHEAP. The ratings are acceptable and the cost to make it is almost nil. The problem with the sort of shows that our sort of fan likes, the complicated plots, the nice animation, the good writing, is that all of that costs Money. Licensed stuff is especially behind the 8 ball at CN because then CN doesn't get the full profit. So Ben 10 gets to last forever but stuff like Green Lantern, Thundercats, or Young Justice vanishes in a puff of cost-benefit analysis.
Different part of the corporate juggernaut gets the money though, and there's a world of difference between supporting and allowing to die on the vine, which is usually what happens as far as I can tell. The network kills a show by giving it a poor timeslot, or an inconsistent one or whatever, and can say "it's not our fault, it doesn't have ratings!". Plus you get things like new executives coming in and saying "Oh that was the old guy's thing, can't give THAT any consistency that'd make him look good and thus me look bad!"