Naruto Dead Nin Tell Tales

iota0000

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Seald_Fox said:
Shota is fine too. :yay:
Especially considering Anko's (fanon) deviancy. Though the fact that she expects nookie from her "Master" makes me shudder to think of what Orochi did to her to condition her. :headbanger: :headbanger: :headbanger:
 

Vesvius

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iota0000 said:
Seald_Fox said:
Shota is fine too. :yay:
Especially considering Anko's (fanon) deviancy. Though the fact that she expects nookie from her "Master" makes me shudder to think of what Orochi did to her to condition her. :headbanger: :headbanger: :headbanger:
Bad Iota! Bad! :flameon: :flameon: :flameon:
 

nintendokid

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Though the fact that she expects nookie from her "Master" makes me shudder to think of what Orochi did to her to condition her.
It's what he didn't do that drives her. ;)
 

iota0000

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nintendokid said:
Though the fact that she expects nookie from her "Master" makes me shudder to think of what Orochi did to her to condition her.
It's what he didn't do that drives her. ;)
Thank you for redeeming my lapse in sanity. :hail:

And sorry to Ves and all others who were scarred. I don't know what happened to me... :no:

:lol:
 

Ike

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Yes... That satisfies the Ice-chest requirement for this fic... for now.

Good stuff, man. Good stuff :D.
 

Cosgrove

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*unleashes the Ice chest celebration banners*

Hurrah!

In addition it was good, especially the ice chest omake.
 

Mighty Bob

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Not that I'm complaining, but Wow has Anko really slipped into the Master/Servant mindset if she's already killing people to do Naruto's bidding. Fucking WIN.

And like other said, that was pretty inventive of you to give Anko the throat/storage technique. Never heard even a hint of anyone else suggesting she could do it.

Bout the omake though...if the throat thing strengthened the digestive system of the user...wouldn't that make it dissolve swallowed items faster, not slower? If the goal of the jutsu is to store things for indeterminate amounts of time, mebbe part of the jutsu makes it so the item is resistant to the digestive process (that way the user can still eat normally and such)
 

SotF

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Mighty Bob said:
Not that I'm complaining, but Wow has Anko really slipped into the Master/Servant mindset if she's already killing people to do Naruto's bidding. Fucking WIN.

And like other said, that was pretty inventive of you to give Anko the throat/storage technique. Never heard even a hint of anyone else suggesting she could do it.

Bout the omake though...if the throat thing strengthened the digestive system of the user...wouldn't that make it dissolve swallowed items faster, not slower? If the goal of the jutsu is to store things for indeterminate amounts of time, mebbe part of the jutsu makes it so the item is resistant to the digestive process (that way the user can still eat normally and such)
I'm guessing it strengthened the physical strength to keep her insides from exploding like an overfilled balloon.
 

windfalcon

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SotF said:
Mighty Bob said:
Not that I'm complaining, but Wow has Anko really slipped into the Master/Servant mindset if she's already killing people to do Naruto's bidding.? Fucking WIN.

And like other said, that was pretty inventive of you to give Anko the throat/storage technique.? Never heard even a hint of anyone else suggesting she could do it.?

Bout the omake though...if the throat thing strengthened the digestive system of the user...wouldn't that make it dissolve swallowed items faster, not slower?? If the goal of the jutsu is to store things for indeterminate amounts of time, mebbe part of the jutsu makes it so the item is resistant to the digestive process (that way the user can still eat normally and such)
I'm guessing it strengthened the physical strength to keep her insides from exploding like an overfilled balloon.
Gah.. I need to find a way to rewrite it...

Still. this is why TFF exists, right?

And honestly.. I CAN'T be the only one to have thought of Anko knowing the throat storage technique... course.. I also foolishly believe she knows what I call the Snake-Skin Henge... the technique Orochimaru uses to disguise whatever body he is currently using as his old one, or when he disguised himself as the Grass Genin.

... Both techniques I'm writing off as side benefits to signing the snake contract that Orochimaru gleaned from the serpents. Objections?
 

immolo

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windfalcon said:
SotF said:
Mighty Bob said:
Not that I'm complaining, but Wow has Anko really slipped into the Master/Servant mindset if she's already killing people to do Naruto's bidding.á Fucking WIN.

And like other said, that was pretty inventive of you to give Anko the throat/storage technique.á Never heard even a hint of anyone else suggesting she could do it.á

Bout the omake though...if the throat thing strengthened the digestive system of the user...wouldn't that make it dissolve swallowed items faster, not slower?á If the goal of the jutsu is to store things for indeterminate amounts of time, mebbe part of the jutsu makes it so the item is resistant to the digestive process (that way the user can still eat normally and such)
I'm guessing it strengthened the physical strength to keep her insides from exploding like an overfilled balloon.
Gah.. I need to find a way to rewrite it...

Still. this is why TFF exists, right?

And honestly.. I CAN'T be the only one to have thought of Anko knowing the throat storage technique... course.. I also foolishly believe she knows what I call the Snake-Skin Henge... the technique Orochimaru uses to disguise whatever body he is currently using as his old one, or when he disguised himself as the Grass Genin.

... Both techniques I'm writing off as side benefits to signing the snake contract that Orochimaru gleaned from the serpents. Objections?
You do know Ankos signed the snake contract also. Besides why not keep it? It is an original idea after all.
 

windfalcon

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immolo said:
windfalcon said:
SotF said:
Mighty Bob said:
Not that I'm complaining, but Wow has Anko really slipped into the Master/Servant mindset if she's already killing people to do Naruto's bidding.? Fucking WIN.

And like other said, that was pretty inventive of you to give Anko the throat/storage technique.? Never heard even a hint of anyone else suggesting she could do it.?

Bout the omake though...if the throat thing strengthened the digestive system of the user...wouldn't that make it dissolve swallowed items faster, not slower?? If the goal of the jutsu is to store things for indeterminate amounts of time, mebbe part of the jutsu makes it so the item is resistant to the digestive process (that way the user can still eat normally and such)
I'm guessing it strengthened the physical strength to keep her insides from exploding like an overfilled balloon.
Gah.. I need to find a way to rewrite it...

Still. this is why TFF exists, right?

And honestly.. I CAN'T be the only one to have thought of Anko knowing the throat storage technique... course.. I also foolishly believe she knows what I call the Snake-Skin Henge... the technique Orochimaru uses to disguise whatever body he is currently using as his old one, or when he disguised himself as the Grass Genin.

... Both techniques I'm writing off as side benefits to signing the snake contract that Orochimaru gleaned from the serpents. Objections?
You do know Ankos signed the snake contract also. Besides why not keep it? It is an original idea after all.
II misworded something somewhere I think...

I meant, she is able to use these techniques because she signed the Snake Contract and learned how to use them from Orochimaru...

Hidden Snake Hands, the Twin Serpent Suicide Technique, Snakeskin Henge and the Swallowing Storage technique... all these and a few more are techniques that can only be learned after signing the snake contract.

... of course... the drawing of your own Kusanagi Blade is only possible if Manda gives you his stamp of approval... since Anko more or less betrayed Orochimaru, she's banned from ever getting one unless Orochimaru bites the dust, leaving her the senior contract holder. Even then, she'd have to satisfy Manda's need for sacrifices.

At least, that's how I'm running it.
 

foreverzero

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I really dislike the idea of gaining abilities from singing a contract. There are some that I can see there being a need for such, like the Hidden Snake Hands and the Summoning: Toad Mouth Bind, but other than stuff like that it just seems odd that you would get special abilities and techniques from signing a piece of paper. You, of course can do things however you like since it is your story, but I think you should just make them jutsu that Orochimaru made and then taught to her somewhere along the way.
 

immolo

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foreverzero said:
I really dislike the idea of gaining abilities from singing a contract. There are some that I can see there being a need for such, like the Hidden Snake Hands and the Summoning: Toad Mouth Bind, but other than stuff like that it just seems odd that you would get special abilities and techniques from signing a piece of paper. You, of course can do things however you like since it is your story, but I think you should just make them jutsu that Orochimaru made and then taught to her somewhere along the way.
Why wouldn't you get the techniques of the snake clann when you sign the snake contract? The logict of not getting them seems kinda stupid.
 

elric

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immolo said:
foreverzero said:
I really dislike the idea of gaining abilities from singing a contract. There are some that I can see there being a need for such, like the Hidden Snake Hands and the Summoning: Toad Mouth Bind, but other than stuff like that it just seems odd that you would get special abilities and techniques from signing a piece of paper. You, of course can do things however you like since it is your story, but I think you should just make them jutsu that Orochimaru made and then taught to her somewhere along the way.
Why wouldn't you get the techniques of the snake clann when you sign the snake contract? The logict of not getting them seems kinda stupid.
. . . Not really. I don't recall Naruto or Jiraiya getting toad based powers. . . :huh.:
 

foreverzero

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Or Tsunade and all the others with contracts gaining powers. I honestly don't remember Manda using any of the jutsu Orochimaru was seen using and vice versa so that leads me to believe Orochimaru made them up himself.
 

zeebee1

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Kakashi raised his dogs. It's likely they taught him some tricks.
 

iota0000

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Yeah and Jiraiya had at least some techniques that were based off of the toad contract, or used toad abilities in the technique. PTS-Naruto was just too retarded to have learnt them, or if he did, hasn't shown them yet.
 

zeebee1

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Jiriaya is the only one with jutsu that involve his summons. He's called the Toad Sage for a reason.
 

iota0000

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zeebee1 said:
Jiriaya is the only one with jutsu that involve his summons. He's called the Toad Sage for a reason.
Nah. I'd consider those things that Orochi, and by extension, Anko, do to be jutsu involving summons. After all, that's the whole reason for us starting this. :p
 

windfalcon

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I'm explaining my logic wrong again... I can never get my words to come out right the first time...

Ok... here'summoning.

Just like any series of Jutsus, you have to start with the basics. Summoning is no different. When first signing a contract, with the right oamount of chakra, you can summon grunts of whatever tribe you focus on.

Generally, beginners can only summon smaller creatures. These creatures (if they aren't babies) are generally children of their kind. These creatures are generally useless in a fight, depending on the tribe... For example, Toad Summoners, upon first signing, may summon minor frogs like Gamakichi or Gamatatsu. Far too young to be useful for anything aside from messengers. As they gain experience, and as word of the Summoner reaches the Boss via his underlings, the Summoner may try to summon the Boss... and upon impressing the Boss or making arrangements with him, the user may gain the ability to summon higher tier toads.

Now.. if the user has the chakra for it, bnothing stops the user from summoning higher tier toads BEFORE meeting the boss... the only problem would be whether or not the summon will obey. For a Yakuza-like clan like the Toads, weaker members can do as they will, and are how Gamabunta judges the character of the summoner... but even if they sing his praises, the middle and higher tier toads will most likely not listen unless Gamabunta says so.

Of course, there may be differences from Tribe to Tribe, but essentially that's the way i see it...

Now... upon gaining tyhe Boss' ok, either through a ceremony, an oath, a ritual or whatever they may require... the Summoner may learn or have access to jutsu that are only available to contractors. A stipulation to this may be that the ninja who learns these techniques are forbidden from teaching them to anyone else save for other contractors to the Tribe.

For example... a Toad Contractor like Jiraiya can learn, and then teach the Kichiyose: Frog Stomach techniques to Naruto, since he signed the Toad Contract as well... but he couldn't teach it to Anko, because she is not Contracted to the Toads.

Orochimaru can teach Sen'ei Jashu to Anko, but not to Kidoumaru for the same reasons.

Of course.. this only applies to major Summon Tribes. Major Tribes have Bosses, and require far more song and dance to learn techniques and gain power from...

Minor Contracts, like Kakashi's dogs for example, don't really have a Boss. They only grant minor benefits, but expect good treatment. Instead of the large variety of beings liek the Major Tribes have, the Minor Tribes are relatively small. Again, using Kakashi's dogs as an example, the amount of dogs he summoned in Wave against Zabuza is the extent of their tribe.

Now... what possible reason would someone sign a Minor Contract over a Major one? Familiarity. Since the Minor Tribe is small, one can get to know each tribe member, know their strengths and weaknesses, and thus easily summon them for whatever circumstances you might need them for. Meanwhile, with a Major Contract, this is far harder to do without a guide. Only those within the Tribe would possibly know of a member who can help out in needed situations... and even then, it would be difficult to summon that one creature unless you accidentally summoned them before hand. Unless you automatically force a large amount of Chakra into the technique to call the Boss, the entire summoning situation for Major Tribes tends to be a random grab bag.

Of course... this is where special summoning techniques and special scrolls come in.

Once you find a Summon that works for a situation, the Contractor can make a minor contract with that being in the form of a special technique. Examples of this can be found in Jiraiya's 'Food Cart Destroyer' and Orochimaru's 'Sen'ei Jashu'. For the very first summon in a needed situation, the Summoner most likely thinks 'I need somethign for such and such situation'. For Jiraiya's case, something large enough to crush objects from above without relying on Gamabunta. The result? His first time summoning the big toad, and from there, a creation of a minor contract to allow him to summon that same toad for use in a technique. In cases like this, familiarity helps.

As for Jiraiya's Toad Stomach Shield/capture techniques... well.. Familiarty is needed here as well. After all.. not just ANY Toad would allow you to summon their stomach for situations. And even then, most likely a tribute is needed to be made to those who hold minor contracts.

.... I think I covered all my bases here... but I'm not sure.. I'm tired adn school is gonna start in a couple days ;-;
 
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