Naruto Fateless (Naruto/Blood Omen crossover)

[Fosfor]

...Uhm, Fosfor, there's an 'edit' button, you know. You should use it instead of making four posts in less then twenty minutes. I could understand if someone posted after an edit or something, but as is, you're just needlessly cluttering up the topic.

Well, more on topic, it's an enjoyable story. One point is that you've not fallen into a trap that many authors do, with giving Naruto (i.e., the modified character) too many abilities. Actually, if anything, you've made him rather underpowered considering where he has been. That's not a bad thing though. ^^

I hate the edit button. <haughty sniff> But seriously... <shrug> I have no idea why I'm not doing it this way. B)

Edit: Naruto? Underpowered? I don't think so. He is so damn much unnatural aptitude for genjutsu that it is just plain ridiculous. Give him five years under Kurenai's and he will cast S-class genjutsu at a drop of a hat and mess wih minds at will. A little bit more time and he will be able to equal a Tsukuyomi.

He can mess with shadows in a way that Nara calan has no idea is even possible. Add tot hat the mental abilities, as scarce as they are... Well, empathy doesn't beat the sharingan on 'battle precognition' but it comes close. Or will, once he gets enough power with it. No one can hide from him if he is actively 'looking'. And I mean no one. His senses are just that stupidly acute.

He also has alchemical knowledge that makes good portion of toxins, medicines and other shinobi stuff practically obsolete. He had fought in several wars and mastered several weapons. He is a master level fighter with a boradsword, axe and a spear and at least competent in seven more weapons, including a Morningstar.

No. He isn't underpowered. He lacks raw 'power' - yes. But he didn't survive in Nosgoth by facing Moebius or Kain head on. He survived by remaining unoticed, hiding, cheating and stabbing enemies more pwerful than himself in the back. He is one ruthless son on a bitch. Smart too.

 

[kuopiofi]

Needs to be asked: what does Naruto look now (any side-effects from being ex-undead appearing) and since he's obviously rather averse to orange: what does he wear?
How does he deal with the other class-mates?
Given that Shika is shadow-user he might be interested to find out if he knows tricks Naruto doesn't.
Shino being basically walking swarm might be rather interesting to him. + both have personalities this Naruto might be interested knowing.
Kiba and doggie vs. wolfmaster Naruto? Who bets that Inuzuka's will notice something commanding in him?
Does Ino/ anyone else have any ideas about Naruto's unusual abilities? Alchemy vs ninja herbalogy? And what was he trying to do that greated that perfume?
Since Naruto is trying to re-greate The Flay, is it possible that he stumples agross some way to use his blood-script to enhance the rejects? Tenten might be interested about that...

 

[Fatuous One]

Edit: Naruto? Underpowered? I don't think so. He is so damn much unnatural aptitude for genjutsu that it is just plain ridiculous. Give him five years under Kurenai's and he will cast S-class genjutsu at a drop of a hat and mess wih minds at will. A little bit more time and he will be able to equal a Tsukuyomi.

He can mess with shadows in a way that Nara calan has no idea is even possible. Add tot hat the mental abilities, as scarce as they are... Well, empathy doesn't beat the sharingan on 'battle precognition' but it comes close. Or will, once he gets enough power with it. No one can hide from him if he is actively 'looking'. And I mean no one. His senses are just that stupidly acute.

He also has alchemical knowledge that makes good portion of toxins, medicines and other shinobi stuff practically obsolete. He had fought in several wars and mastered several weapons. He is a master level fighter with a boradsword, axe and a spear and at least competent in seven more weapons, including a Morningstar.

No. He isn't underpowered. He lacks raw 'power' - yes. But he didn't survive in Nosgoth by facing Moebius or Kain head on. He survived by remaining unoticed, hiding, cheating and stabbing enemies more pwerful than himself in the back. He is one ruthless son on a bitch. Smart too.

And yet... he's underpowered.

My point was never that Naruto didn't have power, it was that (from the point he came in) he had far, far less power than he could have. From the abilities that he gained from his time in the other realm, you basically cut it down to some ten percent or less than what he had. Yes, he'll be fixing himself back up, but will he ever be able to get to the level of power he had been 'originally'?

Well, that's up to you, but it sounds like, at the very least, it'll take a long, long while before he'll be able to.

 

[Fosfor]

Needs to be asked: what does Naruto look now (any side-effects from being ex-undead appearing) and since he's obviously rather averse to orange: what does he wear?
How does he deal with the other class-mates?
Given that Shika is shadow-user he might be interested to find out if he knows tricks Naruto doesn't.
Shino being basically walking swarm might be rather interesting to him. + both have personalities this Naruto might be interested knowing.
Kiba and doggie vs. wolfmaster Naruto? Who bets that Inuzuka's will notice something commanding in him?
Does Ino/ anyone else have any ideas about Naruto's unusual abilities? Alchemy vs ninja herbalogy? And what was he trying to do that greated that perfume?
Since Naruto is trying to re-greate The Flay, is it possible that he stumples agross some way to use his blood-script to enhance the rejects? Tenten might be interested about that...

So far Naruto looks quite normal. Things will start changing a little when his vampiric abilites will start growing in power. As to what he wears... Read and find out. The same might be said for the rest.

Ino is about the only person, aside from Sakura who knows that there is something quite different about Naruto's alchemy. He never attempted to hide it from them. Ino's perfume she pesters him about is aside effect of healing salve he had been developing. It doesn't work nearly as good as he hoped it would, but as a cream and perfume it works wonders. It is expensive as hell to make, too, because of ingredients. It will be shown. Naruto is a very accomplished alchemist and he likes to mix potions. He will start experimenting with enchancing genjutsu with drugs and poisons under Kurenai's tutelage.

 

[trevelyan1983]

He survived by remaining unoticed, hiding, cheating and stabbing enemies more pwerful than himself in the back.

(Spit-take)

Holy Shit, Fosfor! You made Uzumaki Naruto into a GODDAMN NINJA! :lol:

 

[Fosfor]

My point was never that Naruto didn't have power, it was that (from the point he came in) he had far, far less power than he could have. From the abilities that he gained from his time in the other realm, you basically cut it down to some ten percent or less than what he had. Yes, he'll be fixing himself back up, but will he ever be able to get to the level of power he had been 'originally'?

Well, that's up to you, but it sounds like, at the very least, it'll take a long, long while before he'll be able to.

I see what you mean.

I doubt he will be as powerful as he was before. He might have not been Kain, but he was tremendously powerful for his 'young' age. Without a benefit of immortality, ability to draw power from souls and blood (special abilites of other assimilated by devouring their power, like Kain and Raziel can do) and relying on a rather fral mortal shell... He will certainly try, but it will take time, if ever.

On the other hand, he has the dead Kyuubi inside his soul. His body is too frail to channel the bijuu's raw power without Kyuubi's soul present, but he will certainly try to get around that 'little' hurdle. As a shinobi, he will become rather powerful, though not fast. He has too many varied interests. Genjutsu, seals, exotic ninjutsu, seals, medical jutsu - he just can't decide what is more interesting to learn. Commitment issues. B) Though he will be one nasty opponent to fight.

 

[immolo]

Are there any pairings in the forceable future like NaruKure?

 

[holyknight]

On the other hand, he has the dead Kyuubi inside his soul. His body is too frail to channel the bijuu's raw power without Kyuubi's soul present, but he will certainly try to get around that 'little' hurdle. As a shinobi, he will become rather powerful, though not fast. He has too many varied interests. Genjutsu, seals, exotic ninjutsu, seals, medical jutsu - he just can't decide what is more interesting to learn. Commitment issues. B) Though he will be one nasty opponent to fight.

Hmmm...for some insane reason, the Soul part....gave me a insane idea.. :hmm:

Something about if it the power lacks a soul.....why not stick a soul there.....something or someone what wasn't as spiritually powerful, skilled or angry against Naruto, to cause him problems....naaahhh... :sweat: :sweat: :sweat: :hmm:

 

[knight_of_ni]

This is great Fosfor, I have to say that if there is one thing you know how to do in all of your fics it is how to make a character evil, but not a complete bastard that readers have to force themselves to believe. In other words, you do well with making characters with depth. So this looks like it will be another good fic.

 

[TerraBull]

From Holyknight's post, it also made me think of some vauge idea? involving Ino's mind power of projection and Sakura's Inner and Outer Mind, could a variation of that work out?

Do any of Shino's insects detect anything strange about Naruto at all from when he may attempt to influence them?

Does Hinata pay any attemtion to him? Just curious if her eyes could see anything diffrent abbout him?

In the ways of getting money, Naruto is well off and not poor, are there any other crafts or knowledge that he can turn a proffit from? Does he have anyone buying his items for himself since some may overcharge him?

And also, like the work you do, cont when you can.

 

[Fosfor]

From Holyknight's post, it also made me think of some vauge idea? involving Ino's mind power of projection and Sakura's Inner and Outer Mind, could a variation of that work out?

Do any of Shino's insects detect anything strange about Naruto at all from when he may attempt to influence them?

Does Hinata pay any attemtion to him? Just curious if her eyes could see anything diffrent abbout him?

In the ways of getting money, Naruto is well off and not poor, are there any other crafts or knowledge that he can turn a proffit from? Does he have anyone buying his items for himself since some may overcharge him?

The Sakura and Ino thing - no. Kyuubi's soul is gone. It's not a questio of mind. The soul of the original owner of the chakra is dead and gone. Naruto will have to find a way around it. Which will be extremely difficult.


Shino knows on some level that there is something not 'right' with Naruto, but when he informed his clan, they just thought it was the Kyuubi and dismissed it. And Naruto wasn't stupid enough to mess with Shino's insects. There is possibility he wouldn't be able to, anyway. Though he can communicate with them in a way.

Naruto pays little to no attention to Hinata and Hinata doesn't have a reason to admire this Naruto. In academy, Naruto was quiet, average and unremarkable person and he spendt most of the time reading by himself or spending time around Ino and Sakura when Ino made him. And neither Byakugan or Sharingan or any fancy jutsu will be able to detect that there is something wrong with Naruto smply because there isn't. But if, say, Ino tried the Shintenshin... Well, she's getting a quick trip to Naruto's inner Wraith-self and a face-to-face meeting with Naruto's vampiric form, as that is his inner self image. And condsidering that naruto has mental pwoers on his own, there would be a shitload of feedback going both ways. Heh, you'll see what I mean soon anyway. B)

Naruto has plenty of non-combat skills, alchemy among them.He can play a bitterin (a sort of a guitar), he is a proficient thief, locksmith, scribe, jewelcrafter and knows how to run a fortress or a small army properly. He is OLD. He had done many things. Even the most focused person needs diversions from time to time. What he can't do is cook (he is utterly horrible at it since he never exactly needed to eat normal food in Nosgoth) and several other things. He isn't a genius or some kind of multi talented superman - if you have enough time, you can learn to do just about anything at least decently even if you lack any real talent. And he had the time.

Naruto isn't rich by any stretch of imagination. He is well off, true, but most of his many goes into the Merdian and FRose Garden and into his rather expensive experiments with Alchemy and recreating some of his fancier weapons, like the Flay. He will certainly try to find some avenues to earn more, but he isn't obsessed with welth. He has a different perspective than your ordinary garden variety ninja, or even a civilian.

 

[Fosfor]

Edit: double post, damn it! How did that happen?

 

[Genericrandom]

An interruption in your internet connection probably. :huh.: Strange things are known to happen. :wacko:

Anyway, another good bit of story, though I was hoping for the rest of Nine Lives, I'm sure we'll see it eventually.

This is just my opinion, theft and locksmithery are totally combat related skills if you're a ninja. For normal people, no. But for a ninja? Sure. But that's just my ne'er to be humbled opinion.

 

[Fosfor]

An interruption in your internet connection probably.? :huh.:? Strange things are known to happen. :wacko:

Anyway, another good bit of story, though I was hoping for the rest of Nine Lives, I'm sure we'll see it eventually.?

This is just my opinion, theft and locksmithery are totally combat related skills if you're a ninja. For normal people, no. But for a ninja? Sure. But that's just my ne'er to be humbled opinion.

Eh, don't worry. Nine Lives is going strong. I'll be posting few good sized chuncks right after I write a few more bits of this. They are getting written nerly simulatniously, really. It' just that I don't exactly have time to give the Nine Lives the attention it deserves while writing this.

 

[Cuchullain]

you mentioned that naruto will be learning under kurenai
(wink.wink,nudge,nudge :cumdrool: )
In the anime filler kurenai was training a young girl called yakumo
with a powerful genjutsu bloodline (episodes 203-207) will she
make an appearance as she was kind of cute.

 

[Fosfor]

you mentioned that naruto will be learning under kurenai
(wink.wink,nudge,nudge :cumdrool: )
In the anime filler kurenai was training a young girl called yakumo
with a powerful genjutsu bloodline (episodes 203-207) will she
make an appearance as she was kind of cute.

Since I know just the Raijin arc and the first movie, no.

And ndon't expect any 'romance' for now. Naruto's body is ten, even if the mind is old. And he is in no hurry, really. Different perspective, remember?

 

[trevelyan1983]

Different perspective, remember?

I'm thinking that a wraith isn't that interested in sex, and a dead body having its strings pulled by said wraith wouldn't really be much more receptive. As for LoK-Vamps...well, the only thing Kain seems to lust after is power. And that's fine too. :lol:

 

[RGFJ]

He seemed to care about Uma in Blood Omen 2

 

[GenocideHeart]

He seemed to care about Uma in Blood Omen 2

Yeah, he did. He also seemed upset when the Sarafan lord revealed Umah was loyal, in her own twisted way.

 

[trevelyan1983]

Yeah, Umah was kind of a missed opportunity. Of course, BO2 is about as faithful a version of Canon LoK as PTS Naruto, but I have to admit that I did like Umah. I suspect that Kain viewed her as more than just a pawn on the board - or at least, he felt she had the potential to become more than that.

Still, for all that, he's Kain. For those of us who played BO and SR, he redefined the selfish anti-hero and the Vampire character moulds.

Still, despite my former 'shipiness, I must question how, in the...what, weeks in which BO2 takes place, she possibly have become more to him than a pleasing distraction?

SR Kain was all sorts of Ownage - Raziel was schooled by him at every turn, despite being more immortal than an Uchiha. Making him an emotionally vulnerable gimp and implying that he gives a damn about anything beyond his own goals...just seems wrong. That's for lesser beings than him. He's Kain - after decapitating the first member of the Circle of Nine, quoted sodding Shakespeare.

"Alas, poor Nupraptor...I knew him well. Well, not really."

 

[GenocideHeart]

It should be noted that Blood Omen 2 is officially an AU, or 'how things could have been'. The Kain in it wasn't as devoid as emotions as the canon one. And Umah sided with him when no one would, at his weakest. At first, she was just a convenient pawn, but there was some animal attraction, I believe, which makes sense for vampires, since they are more in touch with their bestial selves.

He still killed her when he suspected her of treason, but when he realized he was mistaken, he lamented the loss of a good retainer, and possibly some more. Every king needs a queen, in a way... even SR Kain makes a comment along those lines, stating that an eternity alone gets boring after a while.

In fact, I suspect he felt the presence of Ariel's spirit comforting, in a way.

 

[shout27]

question about Naruto, will he eventually age more slowly than a normal person?
since he's keeping a lot of his vampire powers though extremely weakened his body could age slower than normal only it's not noticeable for awhile.
i.e. for every 100 days his body ignores 1 day, while not much at first it adds up not to mention becoming stronger like his VP's.

answer?

 

[Fosfor]

question about Naruto, will he eventually age more slowly than a normal person?
since he's keeping a lot of his vampire powers though extremely weakened his body could age slower than normal only it's not noticeable for awhile.
i.e. for every 100 days his body ignores 1 day, while not much at first it adds up not to mention becoming stronger like his VP's.

answer?

Read on. You'll see soon. B)

 

[Preventer Squall]

Evil tempter! Please bring us more of this sensation idea of yours! :hail: :hail:

 

[hopeless]

For some reason, I see Naruto accidentally summoning Raziel so time in the future. :wub:

Or may be it's just me hoping for Raziel to have some face time. :evil2:

He's one of my fav characters period. B)