FSN + SAO

Yay, new update~! :D (Sidenote: has it really been a year since the last one? It only feels like half that. :O)
I liked Hanzou's internal monologue struggling with whether or not he really should be enjoying the Death Game or not. On the one hand - yeah, people are dying, and everyone's essentially comatose, but on the other hand, Ninja Magic.
Curious to see if the boss for this floor will be the standard "boss in a dungeon arena" sorta thing, or if it'll be something like the [Moby Roc], and traverse the entire floor once the boss flag is tripped.

P.S. - I know this is from the Prisma-Ilya series, not the main universe, but I can't help but think of Ilya's Pirate Outfit™.


Some minor corrections I noticed:
He realized he didn’t need to have bothered.
This is phrased kinda awkwardly - Maybe change it to "needn't have"?
The new boy, whom Diabel really needed to address as [Keita] even in his own head, was beside Ilya at about five o’clock, just to Ilya’s left.
If Ilya's at 6, and Keita's at 5, then he'd be on Ilya's right, and Diabel's left.
Silica-kun’s big freaky sharks and Diabel-kun’s creepy crocodile-things could cover a lot of ground, and Rosalia’s [Rare Element] apparently allowed her to directly look clear across the Floor.
Should be Kuradeel.
Also, not a correction, but I still love that Silica is continually getting bigger and better monstrosities to fight with. How long 'till she has an actual dragon mount, I wonder?
Well, that was an advantage in its own way, he didn’t want them getting to deep into it.
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There's no one spot I can point to and go "this should be fixed", but Diabel's internal monologue feels kinda off at times. Previous chapters re: [Diabel's internal thoughts] felt more... organized, I guess? But in this meeting, he's a bit more all over the place; IE: "Oops, he couldn’t allow himself to get sidetracked or Ilya would keep talking."
His dialogue too - I don't recall him using -dono for the other guild leaders in the past, that seems like something the Fuumanin would do. Unless, of course, he's slowly starting to fall into the roll of [The Honorable Lord] the same way that Hanzou and the others have taken up the ideals of [Loyal Ninja Retainers]?
 

Leidolf

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I love how Diabel is just waiting for Ilya to screw up to get the Black Cats. They consider it inevitable. Klein is building flying fortresses and foreshadowing about the 25th floor.
 

daniel_gudman

KING (In Land of Blind)
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There's no one spot I can point to and go "this should be fixed", but Diabel's internal monologue feels kinda off at times...
Try it now. You were right about the "dono" thing, and I've re-written a couple instances where he was too emotional in his monologuing (that "oops" moment, and also when he went "damn, they didn't find anything"), and made those more contemplative. Let me know how these changes read to you, I think that fixed it.
 
Try it now. You were right about the "dono" thing, and I've re-written a couple instances where he was too emotional in his monologuing (that "oops" moment, and also when he went "damn, they didn't find anything"), and made those more contemplative. Let me know how these changes read to you, I think that fixed it.
Yeah, this iteration sounds much better. ^-^

Couple of things I missed talking about the first time 'round, that I felt needed a mention -
It wasn’t so hard to carry an emergency flotation vest to prevent drowning, but getting back up to speed afterwards was annoying. And more importantly, it wasn’t cool enough for being a ninja.
Fuumanin are secretly(?) dorks, and I love them even more now. xD
It was still air, a wind created from his imagination, but it was definitely as sharp and piercing as a [Sword] as well.

Thus, he poured prana into his sword, circulated the prana that came out the other end of the sword into the air around him, gathered it like syrup around his leg, and then his leg whipped out and down, an axe-kick that was surrounded by air as sharp and powerful as the axe of a giant.
I like the demonstration of Hanzou's abilities here - upgrading his wind blasts from blunt damage to slashing damage is one heck of a power boost. Once he figures out the [Aura of Blades] he's working on, he'll be practically untouchable.
This might be something from the Ideas thread, not this one, but:
Since Hanzou is eventually going to become a [Titled Player], it'd be interesting if that happened because he accidentally solo'd a boss that he was supposed to just be scouting - ie, "well, I'm still able to fight, and getting intel about the final health-bar power boost for Diabel-sama would be useful- oh whoops, I just killed it."
Rosalia’s [Rare Element] apparently allowed her to directly look clear across the Floor.
I can't help but be reminded of that other old meme. "Rosalia, what do your elf eyes see?" (related) :D


text errors:
And, then there were the Fuumaningun.
Fuumanin
So now Diabel had an office in a mobile base that would be better to call a floating fortress.Kibaou had been so smug when the hull that the Fuurinkazan had built exploded, and they’d been in the lead, Kibaou hadn’t even thought to ask what the devil they were doing that would make a ship explode.
-Forgot the space between fortress & Kibaou
-in the second sentence, you'd need either a since/because/etc before "they'd", or a "so" before Kibaou.
 
Nah, -gun is a suffix in Japanese meaning "military unit." Well, it's reasonable to not know that, but technically Fuumaningun is valid.
 

zerohour

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Good to see this going again. Don't feel bad about falling off the wagon. It happens to everyone. The important thing is getting back on!

I'm hoping Kayaba continues the Beach Episode theming by having some filler arc style events.

-Swimsuit style armor that has moderate defenses, but epic bonuses designed around the level, like +10 swim skill, boatbuilding, etc.

-Tournament events like limbo, beach volleyball, sandcastle construction

-Unlocking the boss involves throwing an epic luau at sunset, and fighting the boss in a dance battle instead of a life or death struggle. Could even be a repeating boss, so that they have an excuse to come back and take a break from the whole thing every once in a while. Think they're going to need it as time goes on. Everyone like epic drops, and getting a chance to upstage the Sixth Ranger doesn't come up very much. Sure, it's a dance battle, but how often do you get a chance to show him up in a boss battle?
 
Curious to see people's reaction to Shirou in swim trunks. I assume his Gae Bolg scar and Bruce Lee body aren't common knowledge.
 

Deathwings

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Curious to see people's reaction to Shirou in swim trunks. I assume his Gae Bolg scar and Bruce Lee body aren't common knowledge.
I don't think they're visible in the game. SAO can reproduce the players' heads because the helmet cover them entirely, but it has no way to scan the rest of the bodies appearance. All it has are the basic calibrations that gives it a rough idea of the wearer's body proportions.
 

linkhyrule5

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Well, Kayaba could cheat that with soul/magecraft bullshit, but he doesn't really have any reason to.
 
I don't think they're visible in the game. SAO can reproduce the players' heads because the helmet cover them entirely, but it has no way to scan the rest of the bodies appearance. All it has are the basic calibrations that gives it a rough idea of the wearer's body proportions.
Hmm. Is that legit from SAO somewhere? I haven't read it, just seen the series. I was under the impression that it generated their "real bodies" in the first episode from reading their minds to get their

EDIT: Don't know what happened to the end of my sentence. That was supposed to say "get their knowledge of their appearance".
 
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zerohour

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No, they mention having to calibrate it by patting down their bodies or something like that. Can't recall the exact details, but I think it was explained fairly early in the series.
 
Movements to calibrate was from the first episode as soon as Kirito started it up wasn't it? Doesn't explain how the game knows their face and skin tone. If there was a camera in the helmet, presumably it would have been discovered fairly early on by exactly the tech types who would be in a beta test and commented on.
 

Deathwings

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Movements to calibrate was from the first episode as soon as Kirito started it up wasn't it? Doesn't explain how the game knows their face and skin tone. If there was a camera in the helmet, presumably it would have been discovered fairly early on by exactly the tech types who would be in a beta test and commented on.
Canon Jayaba somehow managed to integrate a microwave strong enough to fry the players' brains into the helmet without anyone being the wiser. Putting some sort of scanner would be child play in comparison.
 

daniel_gudman

KING (In Land of Blind)
Staff member
Since the NerveGear would have to integrate with your proprioception anyway, just to make it so you can move your VR body as intuitively as your IRL body, that idea it could exactly map the shape of a user's body as part of calibration seemed pretty obvious to me.
 
Canon Jayaba somehow managed to integrate a microwave strong enough to fry the players' brains into the helmet without anyone being the wiser. Putting some sort of scanner would be child play in comparison.
Tbh, I always assumed that the helmet read your mind by microwaves, and Kayaba just turned that existing system up to 11 to fry people. It's a lot easier to hide "oops this probably shouldn't be able to handle that much current" than "this entire system shouldn't exist in the first place."
 
Since the NerveGear would have to integrate with your proprioception anyway, just to make it so you can move your VR body as intuitively as your IRL body, that idea it could exactly map the shape of a user's body as part of calibration seemed pretty obvious to me.
So do you lean toward "Shirou has a Gae Bolg scar in-game" or not? It seems like something to address on a floor where he may be seen shirtless, either by people reacting to it, or his own thoughts on it not being there.
 
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