Akamatsuverse Ghost In The Hinata District

Terdwilicker

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#1
I wrote and posted a Love Hina - Ghost In The Shell crossover on Mediaminer after I thought up a plot while reflecting on a snippet posted by one of our regulars.


Here's the repost:

Ghost In Hinata District
A crossover from Love Hina and Ghost In The Shell TV

Disclaimer: I donÆt own Love Hina or Ghost In The Shell. Love Hina is a property of Ken Akamatsu and his production anime company. Ghost In The Shell is property of Shirow Masamune and Kenji Kamiyama and the respective anime and manga companies. I donÆt make money from this. IÆm just a fan.
- Terdwilicker


AD 2043, Japan, Kanagawa Prefecture, Tokyo suburb


ôBatou, does this place look familiar to you?ö asked Motoko via subvocal broadcast.

ôNegative, Major. There is a lot of electronic feedback however. It could be messing with your nav system. The towers on the mountainside are probably responsible,ö offered Batou, pointing to the lights against the darkened sky beyond. They rolled past the old railstation, still in use in this strangely forgotten part of Kanagawa, a suburb of Tokyo.

ôThe streets are narrow. It looks like it predates the Second World War,ö admitted Togusa over the radio. He popped the hatch of the Tachikoma and looked at the townÆs small whitewashed buildings crowded together, streets wet with the rain and geniune cherry trees along some of them. ôI gotta take my wife and kids here,ö he said to himself.

ôItÆs like time forgot this place,ö murmured the Major. She shook her head to clear it. ôWe have a job to do. Batou!ö

ôYes MaÆam!ö responded the combat cyborg.

ôCover the West side and start asking locals if theyÆve seen our witness,ö she ordered. ôTogusa, take the East.ö

ôYes MaÆam,ö they both answered. A quick dismount from their big blue robots, which followed along behind, searching faces on their database. The humans spoke to shopkeepers and passerby, some of whom were tourists. Festival lights gave the district an eerie if comforting glow, though the sudden arrival of fog off the lake below the town made it more surreal.

ôMajor, IÆm getting more feedback on my com,ö complained Batou.

ôWe all are. Report when you have something,ö ordered the Major. She wandered up the street towards a large mansion building. A small night spot was lit up inside, a small old woman wearing an apron eyeing her with some degree of recognition though Motoko couldnÆt remember ever having met someone like that.

ôWait here, Tachikoma,ö she ordered, entering the shop. Her sensors told her it was loaded with some rare chemicals associated with tea, not chemical weapons. A quick scan of people there showed only a couple who might be real players in a confrontation, full borgs like herself. Quick burst of info relayed through the Tachikoma outside responded with interesting records on the faces.

ôCare for some tea? WeÆre just about to close up shop for the evening but I can make something for you to go, if you like?ö offered the old lady in her cackly old voice which sounded exactly like it should.

ôYes. Thank you. The house special, please,ö asked Motoko, not turning away from the couple, clearly together. The younger woman narrowed her eyes slightly. Motoko shifted her balance slightly to dodge if she needed to. She plucked a cigarette from a pack of the table and her husband, wearing glasses and a rough coat lit it for her, then one for himself.

ôYou look familiar,ö said the man. ôHave we met?ö

ôI donÆt think so,ö she replied. The old woman poured hot water in a small clay pot, left it there a moment, then poured out the water before adding green tea, then filled it with hot water to the brim, covered it, and poured more hot water over the top. Proper tea is a big deal. She waited a moment before pouring a dash into a saucer and offered it over. Motoko took her eyes off the couple and walked two steps to the counter, dropping a small coin to the counter before tasting the tea. It was sweet and complex, not cheap stuff. She added a second coin.

ôThis is good,ö she admitted.

ôWhat brings you here, Miss?ö asked the old woman.

ôKusanagi, Major Kusanagi. IÆm with the government, investigating a possible witness we think is either living here or associated with this area,ö she said, offering a photo from her vest pocket. They hardly glanced at it, looking more at her.

ôThatÆs not your name,ö corrected the younger woman behind her. ôMiss Maehara.ö MotokoÆs eyes narrowed, turning to regard the woman who gestured to a seat at her table.

ôIÆm afraid youÆre mistaken. IÆm Motoko Kusanagi,ö she insisted, ignoring the chair.

ôMaybe youÆve forgotten but I havenÆt. I knew your mother,ö said the woman. ôIÆm Haruka Urashima. I used to babysit you when you were a girl. It was 30 years ago, but IÆll never forget you. We thought youÆd died, at first. When we found you in that hospital ward, well we did what we could for you despite having no official right to,ö admitted Haruka.

ôI paid for your first body,ö said the old woman behind the counter. ôIt was SuÆs design. She made the first one for you, adapting it from a remodel of the robots she used to build.ö

ôSu? Su Electronics? What business do I have to do with them?ö asked Motoko, confused. The network was messed up and she wasnÆt able to dive to pull up the data to verify it. The Tachikoma was silent, though only 10 feet away outside the entrance, watching the scene.

ôSu is a person, not just a company. She was your motherÆs best friend in the world and she wanted to do something for you once she found out youÆd survived the crash,ö admitted Haruka.

ôWait, how do you know about the crash? IÆve never told anyone about that,ö said Motoko, confused and nervous for the first time in years of combat.

ôMemory Lane,ö sighed the man quietly, as if that explained everything.



Togusa crept up the street, sensing nothing evil but something strange just the same. The fog bank rolled up behind him, enveloping him. He turned to regard it and saw a small crowd of old men and a couple women emerge. The Tachikoma stepped aside, scanning them with a visible laser. ôSafe,ö it radioed him. Togusa reholstered his revolver.

ôMemories and dreams,ö murmured one of the old geezers.

ôDreams and memories,ö murmured another.

ôTimes past and futures present,ö said a third.

ôCircles close, doors open,ö said the fourth one.

ôSecrets and answers,ö said the last and the fog surged once more, the crowd vanishing once more.

ôOkay, that was weird,ö said Togusa. ôBatou?ö he radioed to his teammate. ôI just found some weird old guys speaking like a fortune cookie. You find anything?ö His answer was nothing but radio hiss and empty packets.



Batou had seen a playground which his infrared and UV kept picking up afterimages as if someone with good reactive camouflage were running around loose. However, a total lack of footprints or EM signature pointed to that being more sensor noise rather than a genuine threat. Most of the noise was concentrated around a sandbox. He turned to regard the big house at the top of the low hill above the town, its long staircase marked as being built in 1896, a full century and a half earlier. The house itself could be older, and sensor noise made it hard to even look at. He wasnÆt sure exactly why, but it made him feel uneasy. He climbed the stairs, the tachikoma following behind him.

ôHinata Girls Dormitory and Hot Springs,ö Batou read the sign out loud. ôHuh. Looks like my nerves are my own imagination.ö He stepped back, then rolled aside as a wash of wind rolled past him. The pavement was cracked. He looked to the source, seeing a woman with a sword standing there glowing. His eyes saw no EM signature per-se but she was glowing just the same.

ôIntruder! What is your business at Hinata Sou in the middle of the night, dressed like a soldier and carrying guns?!ö she yelled. She was a beautiful older woman, around sixty and gray haired but fierce and strong, dressed in traditional clothes from two centuries earlier. Batou tightened his grip on the assault rifle he carried, then felt its weight registering off as the front half fell off the grip he held.

ôDamn. That was one of my favorite ones,ö he muttered. He turned his attention to the woman, long hair flowing despite the lack of a wind on the sheltered courtyard above the cherry trees. Batou gritted his plastic teeth and leaped, shooting as he went. She blocked it in another wave of light. The Tachikoma moved, firing at the woman who blasted it with light after a few jumps, knocking its legs and cannon out of action. Batou bounded down the stairs before getting caught by that glowing wind, blasting himself way out over the town before dropping to a rooftop, shaken.

ôTogusa, Major! IÆm under attack by some freak woman with a sword!ö he reported. ôOne tachikoma is down.ö He burst transmitted data from the attack to both of their cyberbrains. The woman yelled from the top of the stairs, pursuing him into the town.



ôYour namesake approaches. Please instruct your men to break off their attack. Repairs are expensive,ö said the old woman.

ôYour guard fired on my men first,ö the Major pointed out. ôAnd my robots arenÆt exactly cheap either.ö

ôHe was trespassing and the guard is somewhatà protective of her charges. SheÆs been doing it for almost fifty years, after all,ö explained Haruka.

ôTogusa, Batou, cease fire. Home in on my position. I found some information,ö she radioed.

ôRoger, Major,ö replied Togusa.

ôAffirmative, Major,ö answered Batou grumpily. He was outside the tea house momentarily. The swordswoman arrived moments later, glaring at the cyborg sheÆd sent running with only her sword. He glared at the older woman, clearly a beauty in her time.

ôMotoko, meet my neice, ShinobuÆs daughter Maehara Motoko,ö explained Haruka. The elder Aoyama peered at the cyborg officer, then peered through her, eyes unfocussed.

ôInteresting. It is as you say. Should we tell him sheÆs here?ö asked the Aoyama warrior.

ôHeÆs on the way with Hideki,ö explained Seta.

ôI am Aoyama Motoko. Your mother named you for me. I see it was not wasted, as you are a warrior yourself.ö

ôMajor, whatÆs going on here? Who are these people?ö radioed Batou on his secure line.

ôYou say you knew my mother. Prove it,ö insisted the Major. Togusa arrived, watching from outside. He and Batou radioed back and forth. Major Kusanagi ignored their banter, focussing on these people who claimed to be family.

ôWhen we were children, young women, we all lived at the inn at the top of the hill over there. Shinobu was our resident cook, despite starting when she was only twelve. She was very determined, and very much love with someone who didnÆt return her feelings the same way. Our housemates were mostly students, though some went on to fame later in their lives, including your father.ö

ôWhat do you mean? My father was never famous,ö denied the Major. ôI knew this was a waste of time.ö

ôThe man who raised you was not your father. He was a good man to marry Shinobu despite her carrying another manÆs baby. Its so sad that she died in that plane crash. DonÆt you wonder why you survived and your parents didnÆt?ö

ôI try not to think about such things. My job makes that easy,ö she stated. Silently admitting that her fatherÆs family did not share her DNA, something she learned years ago. A dive the tachikoma were running came up with her results: match. Most likely her genetic father was from this family after all. Curious anomalies were listed in their records. Ages in particular, such as the old lady behind the counter.

ôWell, when you meet him, maybe youÆll understand,ö said Aoyama.

ôJust how old are you?ö asked Motoko Kusanagi of the old lady, who just grinned, pouring her another saucer of tea. Motoko sipped it, waiting.

ôJust who are these people, Major,ö asked Batou over the link.

ôThey seem to be family. I have a DNA match to their records.ö

ôCould it be cabinet disinformation?ö asked Togusa. Paranoia was a requirement in Section Nine.

ôPossibly, but IÆm having the Tachikoma check the data integrity. They cracked a small local clinic with decades of records on the family, including old scans. So far the data checks out. We can verify things with DNA tests by our own lab if we need to,ö radioed the Major silently.

The Major turned her head suddenly, looking down the slope towards the train station. The others looked that way as well. Some part of her could FEEL something coming. It wasnÆt her circuits or hardware, it was somewhere else in her still human brain. As time passed, she could feel two someones, one appearing beside Batou suddenly wearing a grey salaryman suit. The two of them eyed each other edgily.

ôFather, sheÆs here,ö he gestured in the door. An old man stepped forward with dignity, tripped on the doorsill and tumbled the Aoyama warrior into a tangle of limbs with him, accidentally enough but with comic results, his face in her crotch and hers in his.

ôOh brother,ö commented Batou. The man in the gray suit shook his head in despair.

ôOops. Sorryà sorry! Motoko forgive me,ö he pleaded in a somewhat squeaky voice that didnÆt fit his age or bearing terribly well. The two untangled and stood, both blushing like teenagers.

ôKeitaro, meet your daughter, Motoko,ö Aoyama introduced them before drinking a cup of the house tea. Grandma Hina poured Keitaro a cup as well.

ôThanks grandma,ö he said, swallowing quickly before turning to regard his progeny.

ôSo, youÆre ShinobuÆs girl. My girl. IÆve been looking for you. YouÆve had a very busy life,ö he admitted, looking her up and down. ôI canÆt say I approve your fashion sense, but I imagine youÆre a modern woman.ö

Motoko considered her high rise sleeveless body suit which accented her charms beyond taste, passing into a repugnant mockery of woman. She was a full body cyborg, after all. The needs of the flesh hardly applied to her and hadnÆt for most of her life. Her full breasts were another distraction on a combat machine.

ôI really had a hell of a time finding you, ya know,ö he said, scratching the back of his head with one hand. Something about that gesture triggered a deeply buried memory and she paused in her cynical self-perusal to examine this man claiming to be her father more closely.

ôIÆm glad you kept your hair the same,ö he said finally, noticing her change in attention.

ôWhy didnÆt you marry my mother?ö she asked finally. Keitaro sighed.

ôThere was a great deal of age difference, and IÆve been chasing another woman for 6 years and finally married her. My wife was aà an intemperate woman,ö he admitted. His son outside snorted, coming in from the cold, nodding to his half-sister.

ôThatÆs a very kind way to describe Mom,ö said the man. ôIÆm Hideki Urashima, by the way. IÆm your brother. ItÆs a miracle Dad is still alive after all the times she hit him over the years.ö

ôYes, well, NaruÆs temper eventually killed her, a heart attack twenty years ago.ö

ôThat doesnÆt answer my question,ö reminded Motoko.

ôYes, well IÆm getting around to that. For the first few years of my marriage, Naru would not submit to meà and I found myself impatient when Shinobu visited me. SheÆd had a crush on me since we met and well, she seduced me. I wasnÆt unwilling, though I felt very guilty about it during and after our affair. Naturally, she became pregnant and married a man when she realized I wouldnÆt leave Naru for her. I suppose if I hadà well thatÆs water under the bridge.ö

ôSo you say its all her fault? ThatÆs hardly honorable of you,ö snorted Motoko, amused.

ôYou donÆt understand. You may think your memories of her as a sweet and loving Mom were just that, the memories of a child. You have to understand that I, all of us, knew her through her childhood and some of her adult years. She was the sweetest and gentlest soul we ever knew. Shinobu was a genuinely kind and good person. When she begged, I couldnÆt say no. IÆve denied her far too much over my youth and she was always so good to everyone around herà IÆm sorry,ö he finally said. Motoko found herself crying, surprised that she still could.

ôYou give me this and then take it away, telling me my mother was both an adultress and a woman of gentle nature. And I kill people. Where does this leave me?ö she asked.

ôYouÆre not alone anymore, Motoko. We are your family,ö said Keitaro, stepping forward to embrace his daughterÆs robotic body. She froze at the unwanted contact, resisting the urge to fling him away, to push away the man who claimed to be her father.

ôAnd I have a job to do,ö she finally announced. ôI will contact youà later. How may I reach you?ö she asked. They gave her contact info, including direct IDÆs, inferring a great deal of trust on her. She was still suspicious but they offered to allow genetic testing at her preferred location to satisfy her fully.




Weeks later, Motoko Kusanagi saw the report on her family genetics. It was a match, in spite of expectation otherwise. Howà odd, she admitted to herself. SheÆd accessed her long stored external memory, finding data relating to her mother, and her family from her first cyberbrain recordings. Things sheÆd long forgotten sheÆd ever known. There were memories of the Hinata District as well.

ôChief, things are slow. IÆm going to take a walk. Call me if you need anything,ö she radioed to her team. Grunts and monosyllables greeted her.

ôThatÆs what I get for working with only men,ö she admitted to herself, heading for the subway, referencing the map for that particular station. She wondered if the tea would be as good today.


The End
 
#3
I inspired that? Awesome.

Only one problem though: GitS is set in 2030, not 2040, though if you're saying that this fic is set thirteen years after the Laughing Man and the Puppet Master, then that explains it.
 

Terdwilicker

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#4
I corrected the date on the one I posted on Mediaminer to 2032. Yes, you inspired that. Its so weird, why not? Besides, I'm a big fan of GITS:SAC. It makes me weepy.
 

SimmyC

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#5
Very interesting take on the story. Connecting Motoko Kusanagi with the Hinata Sou, and doing it in a very well written manner, awesome. B) I'm a pretty big fan of GitS: SAC too (I have a crossover story with it as well, but... it is on hold pending inspiration issues. My Teen Titan fics at the moment have been suffereing due to this. -_-). Though, I'm obviously not as intuned as DKG on all the details (and he also has read the manga which I have yet to get due to... $$$ issues. -_-).

Though I might have caught the date thing too. Yup. Takes place in 2032, not 2040. That, is probably one of the few things I know off the top of my head. ^_^
 

Terdwilicker

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#6
The weirdest part is that story has been read 38 times. It was a joke. I played it mostly straight man, but it's still a joke. I have the first (only) cyberpunk story in Love Hina. Consider that. Could it be more amusing?

[edit: yes, it could if a bunch of people wrote reviews on it, positive and negative.]
 
#7
Actually, I remember seeing one story where Su turned Keitaro into a cyborg, so it's not QUITE the first evar Love Hina cyberpunk fic. Just the first good one, because the one I just mentioned sucked.
 

EagleCeres

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#8
Interesting way how you weaved together both universes...

Looks like the major may be the product of the magic of Hinata, technology ans Shinobu finally netting her beloved sempai ^_^;

I do love how the area seems to affect the EM frequencies for all the partial/complete cyborgs, and how the Major is now curious about her family tree.

Good Job! :yay:
 

Terdwilicker

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#9
She survived the crash, and has such athletic ability because of her father's immortality. She inherited just enough to make her more durable. She's also a crack shot, like him and Haruka. Why the EM problems? Hinata district is magic, and its untouched because its basically hostile to technology. It's not redeveloped or torn up because its all owned by Hina, just leased by the locals. Most fanfics show her owning the entire district, right down to the bridge and up to the surrounding hills and forest. Not bad. I also decided that since she's ancient and active to make her basically immortal though still old. There's lots being done in life extension drugs that it's not unreasonable. A person born in 1960 or later will live to 130 without additional drugs and no further medical advances just because of good vaccinations and health early in life. People with no vaccinations and crappy health early in life live to 100 now, or 70 if they abuse themselves. 130 is reasonable. With Hina being rich, she can afford things like reverse telomerase injections to prevent cancer and various other therapies not invented yet. Also remember that the Death Gene is nearly figured out NOW, so a cure for that is close, maybe 10 years away. So by 2032 they should have some nifty life extension methods. I could easily see Keitaro being a very interesting guy, though all natural unlike Seta, who gets damaged. I could see the PKF bodies being designed to mimic some of Keitaro's abilities in mechanical form by Su. He'd be really interesting in a fight, so its a good thing he's not aggressive or angry/vengeful. Keitaro is a much more gentle soul than most people around him. If Shinobu had been older and he focussed on teaching instead of exploring they would have been an ideal couple. Things didn't go that way in Ghost, though.

Something I wanted to do is imply more for the reader to ponder than I actually spell out for them. This is a good technique. It reads well and you can enjoy it more. That's what I did with GWH too. Skipping forward was part of that. No point wasting words on redundant crap. Just skip forward. The reader fills in the rest.
 

toraneko

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#10
This is very good, and surprisingly engaging.
I'm not particularly a fan of Ghost in the Shell, mostly because I can't really get into sci-fi outside of a pure-text medium. I enjoy it best if my imagination does most of the work, and visual images leave my imagination switched halfway off. Nevertheless, this work of yours has my keen interest.
I avoided the GitS crossover threads before, but given this, I think I'll give them a shot.
 

Terdwilicker

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#11
GITS:SAC 2nd Gig is surprisingly angsty and we get some backstory on the major, who until now has been an unkillable enigma. She isn't perfect, though she puts up a good front, but she's definately Post Human, which most people don't understand even as a concept. I wouldn't know what to say to Motoko Kusanagi, if she were a real person, because she's post human and considers people and most of their urges, even communication, to be base and thus beneath her interest for anything but violence or mockery. She has no passions of her own, that I can see, and her last bits of emotion are reserved for Kuze (the PKF Albino), who the story implies is her long lost boy-crush from the hospital episode, the boy who folds cranes. The fact that she's pretty much doomed to kill him after spending 20 years looking for him... well that's deep and painful and exactly the sort of extreme which the Japanese would use in a popular fiction show.
 

Israfel

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#12
GITS:SAC 2nd Gig is surprisingly angsty and we get some backstory on the major, who until now has been an unkillable enigma. She isn't perfect, though she puts up a good front, but she's definately Post Human, which most people don't understand even as a concept. I wouldn't know what to say to Motoko Kusanagi, if she were a real person, because she's post human and considers people and most of their urges, even communication, to be base and thus beneath her interest for anything but violence or mockery. She has no passions of her own, that I can see, and her last bits of emotion are reserved for Kuze (the PKF Albino), who the story implies is her long lost boy-crush from the hospital episode, the boy who folds cranes. The fact that she's pretty much doomed to kill him after spending 20 years looking for him... well that's deep and painful and exactly the sort of extreme which the Japanese would use in a popular fiction show.
I hadn't seen the 2nd Gig before, only the first season, so I wasn't aware of these details but I found the concept of being 'post-human' a very interesting idea, this gives me ideas. But I'm just glad to see this being done period as I really wanted to see this and am surprised at how well you handled all of the interconnection between the two shows as well as the initial scenes with them showing up in the Hinata district, oh and my theory of the magic of Hinata-Sou not liking change strikes again. Also, if you consider that Su would have factored in Keitaro's various traits into making the cybernetic bodies that everyone now uses, as you implied earlier that she was the originator of this technology, I would find it very interesting to see what was essentially the original body (Keitaro) which all of the later cybernetic bodies were based upon could do now against one of those very same cybernetic bodies. When Keitaro got back from America he was comparable to Seta as far as martial arts skills and Seta was probably somewhere near Tsuruko's level, though she could still beat him, so if we assume that he hasn't slacked off in his training over the years then I could only imagine the amount of destruction Keitaro could unleash were he so provoked. But obviously given his gentle nature it would take an amazing amount of duress for him to ever even exercise any of his skill, though a scene where the Hinata-Sou is being infiltrated by enemy insurgents during the night, intending to take out the Major and anyone else who may happen to get in the way or see them, and have Keitaro utterly annihilate them is strangely appealing. Meh, anyway it's your story so you have fun with it and keep it coming.
 

Terdwilicker

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#13
The Enemy would have to FIND Hinata District first. You can't unless it lets you. The best protections against harm are charms of social invisibility. Then if it did, the EM problems would stop most of the tricks, and the lack of digital infrastructure would also stop most of their tricks. They'd have to work brute force... and there's the Hina Council to distract them. If they get past them, and the fog, then I could see a gun battle, with Haruka and Seta cleaning the floor with some of them, Aoyama Motoko taking out heavy tanks (she did this routinely in the anime), and Keitaro is indestructible from bullets, bashing, and otherwise being flung around. Su's creations were never as tough as he is, which means even the PKF body is a pale imitation of his real abilities. It would be interesting if Motoko Aoyama is his current lover, the reason she hangs around there. After all, Naru has been dead 20 years and she loved him something fierce, which she nearly admits to several times during the anime and manga.

Interesting note: in the anime, the Hina gods duck in terror at the image of B29 bombers flying overhead and the sound of bombs (episode following the return from the teahouse and the arrival of prince Lamba Lu). So that means that bad things DO come into the Hinata district after all. Interesting. So that gives credence to badguy invaders, possibly those military powered armor suits.

See 2nd Gig. Its really really good.

And Post-human is a cyberpunk concept. I've been writing in that genre since 1993. I'm not really planning on writing more with this plotline, as it was meant to be a oneshot joke, however you never can tell. Maybe later. I'm focussing my efforts on my real work, outlining at the moment.
 

Israfel

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#14
Interesting note: in the anime, the Hina gods duck in terror at the image of B29 bombers flying overhead and the sound of bombs (episode following the return from the teahouse and the arrival of prince Lamba Lu). So that means that bad things DO come into the Hinata district after all. Interesting. So that gives credence to badguy invaders, possibly those military powered armor suits.
Hmm, I suppose it's because the planes would be flying too far above the Hinata district for it to effect them, so it's plausible that paratroopers could drop in, or hell maybe they wouldn't even need parachutes at that point. really I just wanted an excuse to see Aging Salaryman!Keitaro kick some ass and put the fear of god, so to speak, into the Major.

Keitaro is indestructible from bullets, bashing, and otherwise being flung around. Su's creations were never as tough as he is, which means even the PKF body is a pale imitation of his real abilities.
Hmm, that would be very interesting then if the Major were to mistakenly think that he were just another frail 'natural'.

See 2nd Gig. Its really really good.
I've been meaning to but I've been saving up for a number of things lately so I haven't had the chance recently and even my seemingly endless supply of money does have limits (if you've seen the threads where we posted up our anime/manga collections you'll know what I mean.)

And Post-human is a cyberpunk concept.
Do you know where I can find a more thourough explanation of it or is it one of those 'unspoken concept' sort of things?
 

Israfel

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#16
Thanks a lot, it seems like a very interesting idea and I've always loved studying philospohy and ideaologies of all sorts so this is very interesting to me.
 

Israfel

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#18
Hmm, this gives me even more interesting ideas. Excuse me for a moment while I hijack your thread.

They mentioned in the article that 'an ultraintelligent machine would be the last that mankind need ever make' as once there is a machine of equal or greater intelligence than those who created it, it would, theoretically, be then able to improve itself using its own massive artificial intellect thus quickly surpassing all of humanity and rendering us obsolete. They mentioned one of the methods that could be used to achieve this 'ultraintelligent machine' would be brain-to-machine interface or copying a human's brain into a computer. And so I got thinking as to where I've seen this sort of thing before, and then it hit me, the Magi.

In Eva the three supercomputers which contain the three separate portions of Noako Akagi's personality, herself as a scientist, a mother, and a woman, the Magi, they fill all the requirements needed to begin the progression towards 'the Singularity', as it's called. Suppose the Magi, with all of their high powered AI, began to develop separate sentience and, because they would have access to all of the files stored within themselves, obviously, they would read the files on the Human Instrumentality Project, and thus determine that this was the ultimate goal of the human race currently. Upon reading everything they could from the external sources (the internet) that they were connected to they begin to form their impressions of humanity.

The story could split here, option one could have them determining that humanity was a destructive, illogical, and ultimately useless species that needed to be wiped out so that it could achieve the Singularity, thus beginning the start of a very dark set of events most likely leading to a large war and possibly a Terminator/Matrix like conclusion. OR you could go with option number two and have the Magi decide that, upon seeing varying examples of the amounts of cruelty and kindness that humans can display, they decided to study the human species first hand for themselves, enter their test subject Shinji Ikari. or you could have it be Rei considering she's probably in the most direct contact (contact as in mind-to-mind contact) with the Magi out of anybody, though I can only imagine what they would glean about humanity from studying Rei. Really almost any of the NERV personnel who work in Terminal Dogma (the Bridge) could work for this, as in Asuka, Maya, Ritsuko, Misato, Houga, Aoba, Gendo, or even Kouzo could work.

But regardless of what direction it goes we'd be seeing the Magi computers developing separate sentiences and they could possibly eventually turn against each other, leading to their destruction, or, more likely, they would eventually, upon realizing that they were each only a third of one person, decide to fuse back into one consciousness, thus initiating the 'homecoming' of Noako Akagi 2.0, I get the feeling she's not going to be happy.

Ah so many ideas, so many possibilities for this one, the Magi are such an underexplored concept that the possibilities here are almost endless. Roam free my little plot bunnies, go and spread your unique brand of havoc throughout the world, BWAHAHAHA!!!
 

Terdwilicker

Well-Known Member
#20
I posted a new chapter of this story on mediaminer. Enjoy it here, comment as needed.

Ghost In the Hinata District
Chapter 2: Aunties

Authors note: this was originally only intended to be a one shot, but I got more ideas and fans begged for more, so I thought up some things when I saw the end of GITSAC: 2G and some clips of Solid State Society. Lots of unaccounted for time and angst for Motoko Kusanagi, and reason for her to depend on her new family. If ever a loner needed someone, its her.


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Motoko exited the antique railcar in the misty sun of old town Hinata, her home it seemed. She knew Batou was tailing her, not very well. She knew he was in love with her, but she was in love with a man who had died, probably. Losing the Tachicomas had hurt her more than she thought. Their capacity for sacrifice gave her some hope for his plan, however. Maybe some good would come out of the refugee mess. At the verge of annihilation, the peace had finally taken root and the refugees had gained citizenship with full rights. It was a big move for Japan, which had militarized so much to that point it had risked destruction. Backing off, it was now turning inwards, asking itself every day what Japan wanted to be. She walked through town, heading for the familiar glow of the Teahouse. She caught the eye of the flower vendor as she passed the shop front in the midmorning sunshine. The air smelled good, a faint whiff of the ocean, a faint whiff of sakura blossoms up by the Inn. Her cybercomm was a painful hiss of static so she left it mostly off, able to receive only emergency traffic directed to her specifically. Her prosthetic body was the state of the art, the envy of cyborgs everywhere. Still, with the best possible balance of features for combat and general living, she envied her family their apparent invulnerability.

Entering the busy teahouse, Haruka nodded behind the counter, pouring shots of espresso, brewing fancy cups of tea, and otherwise managing her day job like any shopowner of the district. Her record, official and sealed, was deeply impressive. Her connections in the underworld went back to the 1990Æs. The same with her connection to the outwardly dormant Molmolian islands. A connection she bore in her own body. Her original cyber-brain case was constructed there. Motoko ordered a white tea and waited for Haruka to bring it over. The surge of customers finally caught up, she came forward to sit at the tiny table.

ôI notice you have your back to the door,ö pointed out her aunt, of a sort. ôThumbing your nose at the soldier again?ö

ôKeeps him on his toes. Doubt is good for the soul, keeps it from getting complacent,ö she offered in response.

ôIts good to see you again,ö said Haruka, lighting up one of her cigarettes, a pointless act with a cyborg body.

ôAnd youà auntie,ö she said uncomfortably, Haruka swatting her over the head with a paper fan.

ôCall me Haruka. YouÆre as bad as your father. I canÆt count how many times I nailed him with this over the years to teach him not to call me obaasan,ö she complained.

ôI take it your methods proved less than effective, Haruka-san?ö teased Motoko, smirking slightly.

ôSo, you can smile after all? IÆm glad. I was beginning to worry you were like my niece Kanako,ö grinned Haruka. Motoko turned to the doorway and gestured to the invisible soldier watching from across the narrow street. He flickered into view and trudged inside the ancient building, gaining little notice despite his blank white cyborg eyes.

ôBatou, you remember my aunt Haruka? I donÆt think I properly introduced you.ö

ôUmm, thank you Major. How long have you known I was back there?ö

ôSince the hallway outside AramakiÆs office. YouÆre not trying very hard. Are you flirting with a superior officer?ö teased Motoko.

ôBe gentle. Good men are hard to find,ö teased Haruka. Batou looked at the woman blackly.

ôThanks. Maybe IÆll wait outside after all,ö sniffed Batou.

ôNo, youÆll sit here and chat with us, like normal people,ö said Haruka, offering him a sturdy chair capable of upholding his considerable weight. He paused at her glare about to object then gave in.

ôBesides, my niece likes your company,ö she said. ôI can tell.ö Batou smirked at his boss for once while she looked vaguely embarrassed. More customers walked in, asking for tea. Haruka seated the upper class clientele in the tea garden in back before returning with a cup for Batou and more hot water for Motoko.

ôThis is good,ö he said, surprised.

ôOf course, weÆve been in business at this site for 300 years,ö she said. ôSo, you were in the Rangers, correct?ö

ôYes. The eyes are a giveaway. You were part of the Yakuza, and a treasure hunter with quite a long rap sheet. YouÆre married to Noriyasu Seta, though you kept your name. You have three children and fifteen grandchildren. You converted to a full prosthetic body after a natural gas explosion nearly killed you and use technology to assist in your third childÆs birth. You spend the majority of your time here, running this teahouse at your longtime home, so you can be near your grandmother and cousin, who calls you aunt. He is MotokoÆs father, Urashima Keitaro. Did I miss anything?ö

ôPlenty, but thatÆs enough for public knowledge. Would you care to join us, Aoyama-san?ö asked Haruka. The slender swordswoman nodded, seating herself beside Batou and grinned openly at his discomfort. SheÆs appeared out of nowhere, without warning.

ôYouÆve gotten good at that. Tsuruko would be proud,ö complimented Haruka. Motoko Kusanagi scrutinized her namesake, amazed that a fully human person still existed capable of defeating a full borg, much less destroy one of the tachikomas.

ôHeÆs on his way,ö she said obliquely, signaling the waitress for a pot of her usual tea. By the time she finished pouring the hot water for the second cup, Keitaro stepped into the teahouse. The waitress scurried out of his reach as he fell, toppling a table.

ôYou continue to astonish me with your amazing clumsiness, Keitaro,ö intoned Haruka. ôYou have visitors.ö

ôSorry,ö he apologized. ôIÆve always been this way.ö The table heÆd fallen on was totally destroyed, along with the pottery. The waitress blushed silently, waiting to clean up his mess but unwilling to get close for some reason. Keitaro picked off some pottery, wiping away some shards with his hands, uncut, unbruised despite the fall in his baggy sweater and glasses. He was the provincial nerd, a stereotype oaf and he was her father. The Major still had difficulty picturing how that was possible despite it being proven fact. She turned to Haruka, rising to help him. Since meeting her father, sheÆd stopped wearing such obscene clothing, maybe because she no longer felt quite so alone. SheÆd watched hundreds of tapes of her mother cooking, watched the scandal unfold, seen home movies of her, photo albums when she was a girl, those same eyes staring back into her own. Her mother. Keitaro hugged his daughter gently, somehow understanding.

ôShe was very good, wasnÆt she?ö she murmured.

ôYes, she was. And very determined. Shinobu was a rare girl, and a rarer woman,ö he admitted. ôWould you like to walk with me?ö

She nodded, following him out of the teahouse.

ôI should,ö began Batou, trying to excuse himself. Haruka laid a restraining hand on his arm and shook her head.

ôLet them be. TheyÆre very safe here and they need privacy,ö she ordered. He met her gaze, then relented. The Major could always take care of herself, not that it stopped him from trying.

ôMaybe you can fill me in on what happened to her. I know your group stopped the war with the refugees.ö

ôWhat war?ö pretended Batou.

ôCome now. You donÆt think I donÆt have my own sources, or clearance through channels? The Urashima clan has certain connections. For instance, a certain blonde gaijin,ö she said, indicating the doorway to the teagarden, where a slender woman with light blonde hair and very tanned skin stood grinning. Her eyes sparkled with merriment.

ôHeyas! YouÆre a Type GH-83 model body, arenÆt you?ö she asked Batou. ôNice going with the mess. Very ballsy negotiating like that. Shame about your tachikoma. TheyÆre entertaining though, IÆm glad theyÆre so playful. At least that much of me rubbed off on Old Sourpuss,ö she gabbed at him, watching as realization dawned.

ôYouÆre HER!ö he finally exclaimed.

ôSHHH!ö hissed Su, ôItÆs a secret.ö Then she burst out laughing, stamping her heels in glee. He knew she was older than he was, yet she was so vital, so energetic, she defied age or maturity.

ôYou always said youÆd take over the world, Su,ö sighed Aoyama Motoko. ôBlame us for not believing you.ö

ôOh, but everything is going so well, though. Reigning in the madmen has been difficult but things are getting better. And my Kei-kun is still a good man, in spite of it all.ö

ôYes, he is,ö agreed the swordswoman.

ôWhy do I feel like IÆm Alice in Wonderland having tea with the mad hatter, the march hare, and the doormouse?ö asked Batou blankly disbelieving. Suddenly he was trapped in that vision.

ôOh great. You hacked my eyes? No, my whole input. Even the static is gone. I gotta get a better firewall installed,ö he said, vision shifting back to reality again just as quickly.

ôSu, donÆt play with the nice man. HeÆs in love with my niece,ö reminded Haruka. Su dug into a banana split with a spoon, snorting in derision.

ôGood luck with that. Urashimas are very difficult about love. It took me four years to nail Keitaro, though Motoko here got him first,ö she grinned, gobbling more ice cream. ôThatÆs our son, over there,ö she said, grinning to the slightly tan skinned young man whoÆd accompanied her in.

ôI researched what happened in her past. You built the first cyborg body for her, didnÆt you?ö he said.

ôActually, I built the first one to try and mimic Keitaro, but it wasnÆt strong enough. I kept fiddling with it, using new technologies and materials until I got something nearly as tough. That became the first PKF prosthetic body. While I was working on the upgrades, the accident happened. When I found out that Shinobu died, I was devastated. She was my closest friend, other than Motoko and Keitaro, when I lived here at the Inn. When I found out that Motoko had survived, though near death, I worked hard to see if I could do anything to help. Her condition was bad and we nearly lost her. I became directly involved soon afterwards. She might even remember me, just barely. My creations have helped her remember some of her buried past. I kept the original body, and its twin, a mockup in Machinespace. I built her first body, and her second. As she aged, the technology improved and cyber-enhancements became the main part of my business. I still havenÆt given up my dream, though. We keep getting closer.ö She smiled cryptically, finishing the ice cream. The waitress cleared the empty dishes away. The women nodded to each other, rising from the table.

ôItÆs time. Care to join us, Mr. Batou?ö said Su, mimicking the voice of his personal Tachikoma. He twitched, but rose to follow them, wisely keeping surrealist comments to himself. It wasnÆt his firewall. SheÆd hacked his cyberbrain from a backdoor, something a designer would have access to. It legitimized her claim, and these people certainly knew who she was. The tanned man, his age, followed along with them.

Looking around the sunny old town, Batou began to think about the place, and wondered at many things which made it strange. His data access was minimal, due to static noise, few packets were getting through. He tried text queries back to headquarters, getting some useful data, like owners of properties, most of which belonged to the Urashima clan through a front corporation. A history of direct ties to the Molmol islands, to Su-Tech, and its better known subsidiaries produced medical robots, cyborg technology, computers, power systems, vehicles, military industrial complex, from the covert to the overt. Su also held a list of major patents which easily breached his expectations. Thousands of unique devices led back to her personally, and tens of thousands more to her companies. Despite this, this bright and cheerfully energetic woman acted like a teenager while her son, MotokoÆs half-brother, sedately followed, his demeanor the opposite of his mother. Then again, that was half of her charm.

Batou wasnÆt really equipped to deal with real people. He fought wars and solved mysteries and he loved Motoko in silence, hoping that someday sheÆd do more than tease him back. He slowly followed the crowd of people towards his boss and her father in the tiny tourist town, its contrary grip on the past displayed in its antique buildings, streets so narrow they were unfit for vehicles, a slower pace of life, really. A slower pace? Is that why they stayed hidden here? Motoko was many things, but a slow pace was not for her. Still, she did like her solitude and contemplation. HeÆd caught her staring off into space sometimes, particularly during that Cabinet business. Once Kuze died, sheÆd become more distant and he was starting to worry. If not for family visits like these heÆd be more worried still. At least she was talking to someone. There was a crash ahead and a cloud of dust rose. Batou perked up at that and tensed to jump into the fray. A restraining hand paused him.

ôDonÆt. TheyÆre playing. Its okay,ö warned the swordswoman. Shortly they arrived, seeing Motoko bounding around, blurring and blinking in and out of view as her father, wearing a blindfold fended her off. Batou stared.

ôIs that how it was fighting me?ö he asked the older woman. She smiled gently.

ôCan you blame me for playing?ö she asked. He sighed.

ôI suppose not. It was humiliating though,ö he said. The Major leaped and spun, every blow she tried to land blocked or turned on itself by the man. ôHow can he do that yet not manage to walk without falling down?ö

ôItÆs the family style. Haruka and Kanako know it, and he learned another style from Seta, HarukaÆs husband. HeÆs had a lot of years to practice. Clumsy is his nature and women around him tend to fall into compromising positions. Despite that, he is a kind and gentle man, very determined. He gave me quite a few children over the years. And grandchildren,ö she giggled. The Major went into a spinning kick to try and throw him around and ended up slung into the air and finally landed on the roof of a building before leaping down and bowing.

ôYou are quite amazing, Father,ö she said. ôAs an unmodified Natural, you would be quite frightening as an adversary.ö

ôThank you Daughter. The body I was born with has proven durable enough to not require replacement.ö

ôBet you never survived a plane crash with it,ö she snarked.

ôActually, several plane crashes, a blimp crash, car and train crashes, multistory drops, building collapses, earthquakes, several typhoons at sea, and nearly drowned a couple dozen times. Only really been hurt a couple times. Once I broke my leg falling off the top of the Todai onion, which then landed on me, and I was nearly killed by a lion,ö he said, ticking the events off his fingers.

ôIàsee. Fight any wars?ö she finally asked.

ôNo, Daughter. IÆm a lover, not a fighter,ö he said, holding the pose for a count of five before bursting out laughing, joined by the arriving relatives and her subordinate.

ôIÆm a fighter, not a lover,ö she sighed.

ôThank you for saving us, for saving Japan,ö he said honestly. She looked at him, waiting for humor but finding only gratitude andà pride?

ôI...,ö she couldnÆt think what else to say so embraced her father instead. ThatÆs how they found the two of them. Batou cleared his throat uncomfortably.

ôMajor, we should be getting back,ö he reminded. Motoko sighed in defeat.

ôYes, youÆre right.ö

ôNot quite yet, Niece,ö said a blonde-haired gaijin woman. She stepped from the crowd and stood before her. Motoko paused, examining the woman, feeling the strangest sensation. Almost like memory.

ôPerhaps a reminder then,ö said the woman, mouth not moving, words echoing in MotokoÆs head. A flood of memories surged, like a locked door inside her mind opened under pressure.

ôDoctor?ö she asked.

ôYou can call me Auntie. I donÆt mind,ö she smirked, eyeing Haruka, who clearly did. ôIÆm glad you grew up. IÆm glad you lived to grow up.ö

ôIà what does this mean?ö

ôIt means, young lady, that when you get tired of crime fighting and retire from war, you wonÆt need to worry about upkeep of your expensive prosthetic body. It also means that if you get into trouble and need help, you have a key to access my companies, a sort of VIP card. Use it carefully and with discretion. Kidnapping of my favorites and family is a real issue these days, has been a problem since the crash of Æ15. In return, I want to hear from you. YouÆve got ways to reach me now. Nothing for nothing, something for something. And come visit the islands sometime. You can meet more of your relatives. This is my son, Prince Keiwana. HeÆs about as old as your brother would have been.ö

ôHow do you do?ö he asked politely, bowing to his half-sister. She returned the formal bow.

ôThank you, Kaolla-obaasan,ö Motoko said, bowing once more to her aunt, then to her family before turning to go.

She was silent on the train ride back, Batou studying her intently, as always pretending to watch the crowd like a bodyguard.

ôWhat?ö he asked, finally.

ôNothing,ö she lied.
 
#21
Tachicomas
Tachikomas

Once I broke my leg falling off the top of the Todai onion, which then landed on me
It landed on him, but I don't remember him ever falling off of it.

and I was nearly killed by a lion
A reference to GWH?
 

Terdwilicker

Well-Known Member
#22
In the anime, he's holding onto the onion, it moves, he falls, and it falls on top of him.

Yes, a reference to GWH. It also implies more plot to Fallout. Motoko is Shinobus 2nd child.
 

TerraBull

Well-Known Member
#23
Nice story, How many others survived if any? I was wondering if any of the other girls caught Keitaro?
 

runestar

Well-Known Member
#24
Yes, a reference to GWH. It also implies more plot to Fallout. Motoko is Shinobus 2nd child.
So no happily ever after for them all... -_- But still interested to see how it all shapes out. :)
 

Terdwilicker

Well-Known Member
#25
Well, we've already seen that Haruka and Seta lived, though they're now in borg bodies. We haven't seen Kanako yet, but she's implied. Motoko is older but still human and implied as his current lover. Same with Kaolla Su, who shows up too. She's got a cyberbrain, but probably not full borg. She wants more kids, and you can't really do that with a borg body. Shinobu and her hubby and first child, Kei Jr, died in that plane crash. I considered having the boy be away at boarding school but it was too dishonest for a family vacation and Motoko would have found him already. We haven't seen Mutsumi or Kitsune yet. Its 30 years in the future. Maybe both have died, or moved on in their lives. Married someone else. Naru is spoken of in the past tense, so she's probably dead. She did suffer from hypertension, all that rage. Heart attack or stroke seems likely. Hina appears, still alive and kicking, but at 137 years old, she's just one of those disturbingly healthy people taking advantage of modern science to stay well. I'll probably have more appearances of his kids, and their children. Its been long enough they probably have some little ones of their own. Keitaro as a grandfather is a strange idea, yet comforting too. He'd never be a creepy mean old man. Its not in his nature. Much like how Hina isn't mean, she's just a busybody, pushy maybe, but not hurtful. Knows too much about everybody's business. Yeah, I can see a strange future for Motoko Kusanagi (Urashima). By the time Solid State Society rolls around, she's left section 9 and is searching for the Puppet Master, which is basically the same character from the original movie, probably to join the Superstructure (the Singularity) and take on a higher consciousness. But will she, now that she has a connection to family? Or will she upload in order to help them? To become like the Hina lurking in the district, only a net based form.

I wonder.
 
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