Akamatsuverse Ghost In The Hinata District
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Terdwilicker said:
hehehá Maybe Kitsune ran off over the events in Fallout? I haven't written that bit yet. And maybe, because Naru needed him most, he remarried to her to help her head. 30 years have passed, a lot of things can happen in 30 years.
He went from the totally hot Promised Girl Kitsune, whom he loved and had a great sex-life with to a frigid, man-hating alcoholic whom were two steps short of joining the weight-watchers. Yup, sounds like Keitaro. Only a man with a complete lack of spinal column could put these two on the same scale and having trouble deciding which to be with.
She can't even pick herself up and move on for the sake of her child, which should be her top priority, and instead just sits there and mopes like some sort of emo-Shinobu while drinking herself to death, an ideal role-model indeed. Not to mention that the only reason she seems to want Keitaro around is so that she can have someone to vent her temper on and degrade to make herself feel superior and boost her confidence, why else would she string someone along for years without giving anything back if it weren't just because she liked the feeling of being loved and desired. Not to mention she's ten times more jealous than Kitsune and deals with it like a 5-year old who can't have any candy, then again Kitsune is kinda jealous in this series too, but at a reasonable level, she doesn't like her husband screwing her friends behind her back, but Naru can't handle that Keitaro has a penis and a libido. <_<
If you can't tell, I'm not that much of a Naru-fan
I don't really dislike the original that much, it's the ones usually depicted in fan-fiction where the authors take her violent fear and paranoia to the extreme that gets to me..
This section kinda confused me, didn't he stop chasing Naru when he returned from Africa in GWH after pwning the Lion, when roughly 4 years had passed since he arrived at the inn? And later married Kitsune? The above segment makes it sound like he chased Naru for 6 years straight and then finally married her, like in the original manga. In GWH he chased Naru for 4 years, gave her an ultimatum, pursued the other girls and then ended up with Kitsune.
Or did he have to start chasing Naru again after splitting up with Kitsune? That sounds less likely considering how all the girls, including Naru, basically worships the ground he walks on in Fallout and would be more than happy to take Kitsune's place.
Then again, you're not done with Fallout, and probably have something planned for it to bridge the enormous timejump to the GITS-crossover, but as it is now, there's some major question-marks and a plothole or two to straighten out.
Sorry for being such a nitpicky bother, just rubbed me the wrong way that whole "leave-kitsune-for-naru" thing
Yeah, lotsa plot holes. Thanks for pointing them out. I need to do some fine tuning.
I may drop the whole Naru ex-wife thing altogether. Motoko, assuming that Kitsune dies during those 30 years, is a far better wife for him than Naru. And Kaolla will never give up Kei either, even as busy as she is with her technology companies. I got the idea of merging GWHK and Fallout with GIHD while I was writing it. It bears a certain distant symmetry that The Major was the daughter of the sweetest and most gentle of all the Hinata girls rather than say... Naru.
I don't hate Naru, though most people here do. Presumably you liked the way I wrote Kei breaking up with her in GWHK. I thought it was thorough and thoughtful and fair, thus that made it that much harder for her because Naru is a first-stage Feminist and unable to deal with men or her emotions rationally. The other girls are 2nd and 3rd stage feminists so they're much more healthy. Motoko Aoyama was a first stage but changes to a 2nd before she decides to sleep with Kei in GWHK. The other girls are more developed, Mutsumia and Shinobu being 3rd stage adjusted feminists, women who know they're women, know they want families and children, and aren't ashamed to put that first. First stage feminists (like those in the 1970's) were busy being angry and stupid, and later betraying their own oaths. 2nd stage tends to be angsty, arguing and fumbling between rage and acceptance. This is why Kaolla, Mutsumi, and Shinobu got him into bed with little trouble or effort once he gave up crazy head (Naru).
So, why don't I hate Naru? In spite of her crazy, she had potential, frequently drowned in madness and anger over the fact that she loves Keitaro but doesn't want to. I think its her selfishness, and buying into man-hating, which is the reason for her crazy behavior. Kei is a decent, though eternally goofy guy. Once he goes to America and changes, leaving Naru behind, it was all over for her. She no longer had a reason to hate his goofiness because it was mostly gone. It had been replaced with Cool. Trouble is, Naru is a twisted up person and I have sympathy for her, as does the audience. She's sort of a metaphor for the state of general feminism in Japan in 2000. At this point, Japan is seeing its population drop because women won't stand for the abuse anymore, won't play the part of domestic slaves. Why should they? There's nothing in it for them. They can work and play and not deal with idiot Japanese men who mostly mistreat them because that's Japanese culture.
I have friends in Japan, one married to a Japanese woman. She's a 3rd stage feminist and she and her family have been ostracized because she married a gaijin. Japan will either see the writing on the wall and accept outsiders into their inner workings, and stop cursing people as gaijin (yes, its a curse there, every bit as dark as the N word in the Southern USA), or Japan will find itself marginalized in their own country, kinda like Hawaiians in Hawaii, and wonder just wtf happened in a generation or two. Assuming the Chinese don't play the nuclear first strike card on them.
Yeah, I see Naru as a metaphor. Conflicted, like Japan. Over 30 years she may go from a self obsessed alcoholic to a reformed catholic mother with better sense and sensitivity. Whatever Naru does, now that Kei knows about all his kids, he's going to visit them and try to raise them as best he can. He may quickly find himself too busy to be a college professor. That's one of the downsides of polygamy. All those women, all those kids, and all of them need to see their daddy. Add 30 years and see what happens.
I may drop the whole Naru ex-wife thing altogether. Motoko, assuming that Kitsune dies during those 30 years, is a far better wife for him than Naru. And Kaolla will never give up Kei either, even as busy as she is with her technology companies. I got the idea of merging GWHK and Fallout with GIHD while I was writing it. It bears a certain distant symmetry that The Major was the daughter of the sweetest and most gentle of all the Hinata girls rather than say... Naru.
I don't hate Naru, though most people here do. Presumably you liked the way I wrote Kei breaking up with her in GWHK. I thought it was thorough and thoughtful and fair, thus that made it that much harder for her because Naru is a first-stage Feminist and unable to deal with men or her emotions rationally. The other girls are 2nd and 3rd stage feminists so they're much more healthy. Motoko Aoyama was a first stage but changes to a 2nd before she decides to sleep with Kei in GWHK. The other girls are more developed, Mutsumia and Shinobu being 3rd stage adjusted feminists, women who know they're women, know they want families and children, and aren't ashamed to put that first. First stage feminists (like those in the 1970's) were busy being angry and stupid, and later betraying their own oaths. 2nd stage tends to be angsty, arguing and fumbling between rage and acceptance. This is why Kaolla, Mutsumi, and Shinobu got him into bed with little trouble or effort once he gave up crazy head (Naru).
So, why don't I hate Naru? In spite of her crazy, she had potential, frequently drowned in madness and anger over the fact that she loves Keitaro but doesn't want to. I think its her selfishness, and buying into man-hating, which is the reason for her crazy behavior. Kei is a decent, though eternally goofy guy. Once he goes to America and changes, leaving Naru behind, it was all over for her. She no longer had a reason to hate his goofiness because it was mostly gone. It had been replaced with Cool. Trouble is, Naru is a twisted up person and I have sympathy for her, as does the audience. She's sort of a metaphor for the state of general feminism in Japan in 2000. At this point, Japan is seeing its population drop because women won't stand for the abuse anymore, won't play the part of domestic slaves. Why should they? There's nothing in it for them. They can work and play and not deal with idiot Japanese men who mostly mistreat them because that's Japanese culture.
I have friends in Japan, one married to a Japanese woman. She's a 3rd stage feminist and she and her family have been ostracized because she married a gaijin. Japan will either see the writing on the wall and accept outsiders into their inner workings, and stop cursing people as gaijin (yes, its a curse there, every bit as dark as the N word in the Southern USA), or Japan will find itself marginalized in their own country, kinda like Hawaiians in Hawaii, and wonder just wtf happened in a generation or two. Assuming the Chinese don't play the nuclear first strike card on them.
Yeah, I see Naru as a metaphor. Conflicted, like Japan. Over 30 years she may go from a self obsessed alcoholic to a reformed catholic mother with better sense and sensitivity. Whatever Naru does, now that Kei knows about all his kids, he's going to visit them and try to raise them as best he can. He may quickly find himself too busy to be a college professor. That's one of the downsides of polygamy. All those women, all those kids, and all of them need to see their daddy. Add 30 years and see what happens.
I enjoyed writing her as finally having reached or exceeded Tsuruko's level by 2030, without any borg parts (because Shinmei Ryu is about chi, and you don't have that with borg parts), and disassembled a tachikoma (not that different from Su's mecha tamas), and Batou (who's a more advanced Mecha Keitaro). So she ages, she's 50 years old at this point. Keitaro is 55, a lot more stable but still clumsy at all the wrong times. Its fun to think of him as The Major's father because its so weird.
I'll fix stuff soon. Maybe writing is what I'm really meant to do. That and cooking. Go figure.
I'll fix stuff soon. Maybe writing is what I'm really meant to do. That and cooking. Go figure.
Hmm, glad to see that this isn't dead, and more so, glad to see that you're back in general, I thought you might have left us, glad to see I was wrong. I enjoyed this update and was glad to see that we did get to see some of Keitaro's martial skills as he pwns the Major blindfolded, not to mention how he shuts her down when she mentions the bit about the plain crash. Overall a strong update, also, I don't really care about the continuity thing between the stories, keep'em seperate, tie them in together, whichever, doesn't matter to me.