Gourd of Purity

ceyx0991

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#26
How does one bang their Zanpakuto? Unless you are a bankai user and can manifest it at will. Or you use Urahara's device....
 

Mev852

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#27
Ichigo met Zangetsu in his mind. Maybe His Zanpakutou wanted to ravish Hanatarou in his?
 
#28
Besides, one of the prerequisites for gaining Bankai is to be able to summon the spirit of their zanpakuto into the physical world. At least from what I recall. So that means Hanatarou actually is able to bring Hisagomaru out, and thus should have been able to rock her world.
 

Ura Mamoru

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#29
Preventer Squall said:
Besides, one of the prerequisites for gaining Bankai is to be able to summon the spirit of their zanpakuto into the physical world. At least from what I recall. So that means Hanatarou actually is able to bring Hisagomaru out, and thus should have been able to rock her world.
The second part is that after one manifests their Zanpakuto' spirit, the Shinigami must subdue it.

Perhaps Hanataro manifested Hiasgomaru, but didn't... subdue... her properly.
 

zeebee1

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#30
Sex with sharp pointy objects is not advised.
 
#31
Ura Mamoru said:
Preventer Squall said:
Besides, one of the prerequisites for gaining Bankai is to be able to summon the spirit of their zanpakuto into the physical world. At least from what I recall. So that means Hanatarou actually is able to bring Hisagomaru out, and thus should have been able to rock her world.
The second part is that after one manifests their Zanpakuto' spirit, the Shinigami must subdue it.

Perhaps Hanataro manifested Hiasgomaru, but didn't... subdue... her properly.
He must've managed to subdue her, or he'd never have gotten bankai.

He just didn't subdue her the way SHE wanted him to.
 

grant

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#32
It hasn't actually been shown anywhere that he's managed Bankai.
 
#33
grant said:
It hasn't actually been shown anywhere that he's managed Bankai.
True, but he may be closer than anyone realizes. However, once he pissed off his zanpakuto, his progress just stopped there.

He didn't have to say anything to activate his zanpakuto's special ability in the anime omakes, so it seems that his zanpakuto might be in a constant release state, like Ichigo's. Hanatarou might be far more powerful than anyone realizes, even himself-Which is the problem. Since a zanpakuto is part of your soul, your mindset affects what you can do with it. And someone with such low self-confidence as Hanatarou means that, even if he has the spiritual potential of Ichigo, he can't do squat with it until he addresses why he feels that way.

Forgive the necro but this story is too awesome to just leave like this.
 
#34
It'd be kind of like Orihime's attack sprite, Tsubaki. He could be very lethal, but because Orihime really doesn't want to hurt anyone, he is easily defeated and harmed.

For once, I approve of the necro. I want more of this story!
 

tigros40208

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#35
nuclear death frog said:
It'd be kind of like Orihime's attack sprite, Tsubaki. He could be very lethal, but because Orihime really doesn't want to hurt anyone, he is easily defeated and harmed.

For once, I approve of the necro. I want more of this story!
Exactly, it has been hinted at in the series that force of will has alot to do with how strong you are. Orihime's powers have been rumored to be only as limited as she imposes on herself.
 
#36
tigros40208 said:
nuclear death frog said:
It'd be kind of like Orihime's attack sprite, Tsubaki. He could be very lethal, but because Orihime really doesn't want to hurt anyone, he is easily defeated and harmed.

For once, I approve of the necro. I want more of this story!
Exactly, it has been hinted at in the series that force of will has alot to do with how strong you are. Orihime's powers have been rumored to be only as limited as she imposes on herself.
So it probably is with Hanatarou. Put him through some serious training and push him to be more confident, and he'll start kicking some serious ass.
 

nick012000

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#37
Maybe he needs to meet a new member of the 11th Division who decides to adopt him as his little brother after seeing the other guys in his squad picking on him.

Hanatarou, meet Kamina.
 

Lord Raine

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#38
the DragonBard said:
zenaku said:
Meinos Kaen said:
If you donÆt do something about it first, thereÆs no sense in telling you.
Ah. So thats it. Hanatarou's zanpakuto is female. After all. Only a female would use that sort of logic.
Actually, some men also subscribe to the belief.
Some men are girlier than actual women, to the extent that they have sex with other men more frequently than said women have sex with men.

That's not a convincing argument. Find something that isn't an Assuming Comparison, plz.
 

Garahs

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#39
Lord Raine said:
Some men are girlier than actual women, to the extent that they have sex with other men more frequently than said women have sex with men.

That's not a convincing argument. Find something that isn't an Assuming Comparison, plz.
Are you agreeing with Dragonbard or further refuting Zenaku? Because from what you said, I can't tell either way. :huh.:

Anyway, Hanatarou said his Zanpakto is female.
 

nantukoprime

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#40
Crap. Now I'm seeing Hanatarou's zanpakuto as something of a cross between Anko and Asuka Langley.
 

grant

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#41
Getting back on track, the only thing Hisogamaru says so far certainly doesn't suggest that its in any way like Asuka although Anko is a possibility.
 

lqader4529

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#42
As far as I can tell willpower only applies to Orihime due to her specific abilities. She has the power to reject anything and as Aizen say she violates gods realm.

Hanataro is stronger than he believes, he can still use spirit energy to heal even after using a fake pill that restores spirt energy. Being able to see your Zanpakuto in the real world means your right on the verge of Bankai. As we've only seen it with Renji and Ichigo only days before they've achieved Bankai. Given about a year of intensive training and getting over his insecurities he could achieve Bankai I think.

I would like to see his Bankai since his Shikai has such a badass ability.

I would like to say that necroing this raised my hopes and then destroyed them completely, so thank you for that.
 

nantukoprime

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#43
Well...Ichigo and Kenpachi sorta prove that willpower matters a whole lot. Kenpachi has never released his sword, and Ichigo is practically running on Willpower in order to progress so fast. Toshiro also proves this since he forced his Bankai before his body was ready.

You can of course argue with me on it since Tite Kubo is never going to come out and state it, but just compare it to the other Manga that Shonen Jump represents in their magazine. Dragonball, Naruto, Shaman King, One Piece, Yu-gi-oh, Yu yu Hakusho, Slam Dunk, Eyeshield 21, Prince of Tennis, etc.

Willpower defines Shonen manga and the mindset that the Japanese culture tries to instill in its youth.
 

lqader4529

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#44
Yeah, but they pointed out Orihime's abilities and their connection to her will which makes me think that there is a difference. They said her power is completely based on her will and that her power is pretty much limitless.

The Hitsugaya thing makes no sense. The incomplete Bankai due to his age is fanon brought about by Shawlong Fei (or whatever that guys name is) speculation and was shown to be untrue after his fight with Luppi. His body is 13 and Ichigo's 15 and he was able to use Bankai so that doesn't seem right. If his body wasn't ready for Bankai he probably would have died.

Ichigo had reason to get stronger and was ridiculously strong to begin with. Zangetsu then gave him strength when he needed and he needed it quickly since he was fighting Kenpachi. The only reason he's not stronger is because his control is shit. He gets focused and he becomes stronger but there is a limit.

Kenpachi and willpower? Makes no sense. The guy only cares about fighting, not winning but fighting. He has no reason for fighting and wouldn't give a damn if he died. The only reason he has so much power is because he's naturally strong and his Zanpakuto's spirit and his own have been fighting for who knows how long giving his soul a sort of weight training.

I will admit willpower does matter but mostly it helps in the training and motivation to get stronger.
 

zeebee1

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#47
He's doing this because he can. He doesn't want to take the most effective path.
 

nick012000

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#48
Auther_Dent said:
zeebee1 said:
Sex with sharp pointy objects is not advised.
Why not?

Also can we pwease have more of this? Pwease?
Generally, it's frowned upon to ressurrect dead threads just to beg for new updates. It upsets people, see, since people might think there has been a new update. You're new here, though, so I'll forgive you. ;)
 

crazyfoxdemon

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#49
nick012000 said:
Auther_Dent said:
zeebee1 said:
Sex with sharp pointy objects is not advised.
Why not?

Also can we pwease have more of this? Pwease?
Generally, it's frowned upon to ressurrect dead threads just to beg for new updates. It upsets people, see, since people might think there has been a new update. You're new here, though, so I'll forgive you. ;)
Lol.. you don't get out much do you? Auther_Dent isn't new... Every single post of his (as far as I know) has been a necro...
 

Meinos Kaen

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#50
"Ok. This time they really went too far."

"N-No, it's alri-OW!"

"Hanatarou, they booby trapped your broom!" Isane said, enraged. Kiyone flinched as her older sister pulled yet another splinter out of Hanatarou's right arm before turning her glare on her. "You don't have anything to do with this, right?"

"O-Of course not! I'm not so... Ruthless." The shinigami said in her defense as another member of their division pulled the last splinter out of their patient's arm before cleaning the cuts.

As suggested, Kiyone had followed Hanatarou around all day. The 7th seat had done nothing that could validate Kiyone's theory, much to her chagrin, and she had been witness to some of the daily bullying the boy was subject to but the day had ended abruptly when Hanataro's broom suddenly exploded in his hands and filled his arms with wood splinters. "I agree with you, nee-chan. This is way too much for a prank."

"Indeed. I'm opening an investigation about this." Isane declared as she strapped a few bandages to wrap Hanatarou's arms with.

"No, Isane-san. It's okay... I mean..." The two sisters turned in Hanatarou's direction as one woman. "That could cause trouble, right?"

"C-Cause tr-!" Isane groaned. The image of the perverted Hanatarou disappeared from the younger sister's mind.

"It's okay. I'm used to it." It was replaced by another one.

"... Yamada-san, I may have a theory about why your Zanpakuto doesn't want to talk to you."

"Uh? Really?" The shinigami said as he checked he bandages. "What..."

"IT'S BECAUSE YOU'RE A WIMP!" Hanatarou cringed while his division colleagues instinctively plugged their ears just in time. As Ukitake can sadly testify, Kiyone can be quite loud when she wants to. "PEOPLE PRANK AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF YOU AND YOU DON'T EVEN REACT! NOW THEY TRY TO BLOW YOU UP AND YOU DON'T EVEN WANT TO KNOW WHO WAS IT?!"

"Yeeee! I-I'm sorryyyyyyyy!" he screamed, cowering in fear, much to Kiyone's further annoyance. She glared at him.

"That's it. You're coming with me."

"U-Uh?" Kiyone suddenly grabbed onto Hanatarou's arm and started pulling, bringing him away.

"Kiyone!"

"Sorry, nee-chan. I just can't stand it. A guy this wimpy... Come on!"

"Noooo!" The 7th seat cried pathetically before he was forcefully shunpoed away.

"... That... That... Aaaargh!" Isane roared, pulling at her hair. "Why must she always be like this..."

"Oh, I think it's fine. It's not like your sister wants to harm Hanatarou, right?" Isane sighed and turned around, the visage of her captain calming her down a bit.

"Not intentionally. But my sister is known for letting herself be... Dragged into troublesome endeavors." The squabbles with her fellow third seat are legendary. She wished Ukitake would make up his mind and choose a new lieutenant, already. "And Hanatarou isn't exactly one to oppose being bullied around."

"Well, as long as she doesn't do anything to worsen the wounds on his arms, she should be fine." Isane nodded... And then realized something. She slowly turned in Unohana's direction, her eyes wide. The older woman was smiling.

"Captain... Hanatarou had the incident less than half an hour ago."

"Did he, now." She replied amicably.

"... The point is... How did you know..." Isane stopped. Unohana was still smiling but her eyes were now opened. "... Nevermind."
 
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