Harry Potter Harry the Reluctant Hero...

Cypher3au

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Early in his life, Harry comes to the realisation that there is nobody either willing or able to take his side in anything, from protecting him from Dudley and his gang to curbing his relatives treatment of him. Rather than taking up the practice of keeping his head down, backing down, and running away as cannon Harry did, this Harry decides to stand up for himself, never take a step back, and always give at least as good as he is given in a fight, whether verbal or physical.

Someone insults him? He insults them right back.

Dudley and his thugs try their 'Harry Hunting' crap? Rather than apparating onto a rooftop after a run, Harry finds himself the last man standing, looking like shit and standing over a half-dozen equally badly beaten brats, with nobody quite willing to accept Dudley and co's story that the skinny Potter kid beat them ALL up.

Vernon locks him up in the cupboard under the stairs? Harry smashes his way out.

Vernon cuffs Harry across the back of the head? Harry kicks him in the shin.

Aunt Marge sics Ripper on him? He kicks the fucking mutt in the face.

By the time Harry gets his Hogwarts letter, he's already sleeping in the smallest bedroom; it was that, or the Dursleys would keep having to repair the door of the cupboard under the stairs, and the numerous upgrades of the locks and door to said cupboard were starting to garner them odd looks from repairmen. Vernon has probably had a mild stress-induced heart attack caused by his own weight problem and Harry consistently getting him angry beyond all belief.

Dudley and co avoid Harry wherever possible, but so do all the other kids. Even though Harry has never touched anyone who hasn't attacked him first, he's still branded as being little more than a smart-mouthed little thug by the uptight adults of Privet Drive (with good reason this time around), who warn their kids away from 'that Potter boy'.

As for the events at Hogwarts, both despite and because he never had anybody stand up for him, Harry mildly reluctantly finds himself standing up for everyone else who gets picked on; Hermione, Neville, Luna later on...and even though he never really goes poking his nose into things as cannon Harry did, he still finds himself stumbling or being dragged into dangerous situations despite his every intention of staying the fuck away.

Also, there are the Die Hard staples to add to the Harry Potter style; much more explosions, for instance. Almost every misadventure ends with an explosion or explosions. The bigger the misadventure, the bigger the boom. The fight with the basilisk should end with Harry and friends flying up the tunnel on Fawkes' tail as the Chamber of Secrets collapses in on itself in a fiery inferno. The rescue of Sirius ends with the tower he was imprisoned in collapsing, possibly with a 'why is there always an explosion with you!?' shriek from Hermione.

Harry should look more beaten up and bloody, too. Not that he hasn't looked bad after a scrap before, but he should look way worse, and take it much better; bloody head wounds, shredded clothing, cuts and bruises all over, but he just takes it all in stride as everyone else fusses over him.

And even though it only really happened in the dirst Die Hard movie, Harry should still frequently lose his shoes, often for odd reasons, but also quickly discover that Draco has nice comfortable shoes in his size. Hell, it's not like the little turd couldn't afford to lose a few. :p

Bit of a bonus to toy around with, and the inspiration behind this idea; John McClane and Harry Potter both have a nemesis played by Alan Rickman.

Obliviation Edit: also, I took a peek at the Wikipedia entry for John McClane...damn he's an awesome character...the relentless underdog hero...

As a combatant, McClane survives and thrives due to a number of factors û outside-the-box thinking, tenacity, a bizarre form of grace under pressure, and occasionally sheer luck. Paramount to his success, however, is his refusal to let a threat intimidate him into inaction. Whether bungee jumping with a firehose to escape a bomb, emptying a magazine full of blanks at an uncooperative airport security chief, blowing apart handcuffs with binary explosives, or launching a police car towards an enemy helicopter, he refuses to let his opponents control an encounter. Recently he's outdone himself - his battle with Thomas Gabriel forced him to engage martial-artists several orders of magnitude more skilled than the terrorists he fought in Nakatomi Tower and Dulles International Airport. Mai Lihn, a high-degree black belt, effortlessly disabled him in hand-to-hand combat. McClane decided against another beating and instead drove a Ford Expedition though the building and knocked her down an elevator shaft. Rand, a master traceur, however, proved resistant to even this approach. McClane instead dealt with him with the suicidal tactic of blasting him with liquid nitrogen, resulting in Rand getting shred to pieces by the revolving blades below him.

Any of his enemies seem to die a bizarre yet spectacular death. Hans Gruber, after getting shot by McClane, hangs on to Holly's wristwatch, McClane then takes off Holly's watch, thus resulting in Gruber falling 30 stories to his death. During the events at Dulles International Airport, Col. Stuart, on the verge of escaping, kicks McClane off the wing of the plane. Unknown to him, McClane pulled out a fuel plug, and a trail of kerosene is formed. McClane then simply lights up the trail using his lighter, and the plane is blown up. In 1995, he finds himself cornered as he is low on bullets and his nemesis, Simon Gruber (Hans' brother) is armed with a M60. Resourceful, McClane uses his last bullets to disconnect a power line above Simon's helicopter. The helicopter gets electrocuted, glows, and then lands in a fireball. Recently the new villain Gabriel himself had him at gunpoint û McClane then shot himself in through the shoulder to eliminate his own captor holding him from behind. Where most people would hesitate û and die û McClane simply acts, with spectacular results.

However, despite his impressive abilities, McClane could be considered a reluctant hero. Citing the state of his life, he says he gets involved in dangerous situations, "because there is nobody else to do it". This philosophy is central to his character.
 

kingdark

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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
man, a hilarious idea, not for a serious fic, but rather for pure !crack!
 

Souffle

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#3
I can see it as a serious fic, easily.

Yes, even the explosions. Lets say Harry found in the library 'The Big Booming Book of Magical Explosions'
 

Mighty Bob

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#4
Only seen the first Die Hard movie but I like this idea. Makes me wonder how Goblet of Fire would turn out. Or what (if anything) his boggart would be.
 

marthf1

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#5
Whoa! I think would be pure greatness. Soon, everyone will be cursing/praising his name, even more so than in the series. Heh, the aurors will be so pissed (or not, considering how worthless they are) that Harry always upstages them.

Yeah, the Goblet of Fire will be crazy with his... unique... actions. Hmm, I wonder how John McClane would interact with Luna considering his philosophy, actions, personality... Heh, no romances of any sort for Harry, the one love McClane has ends ups divorcing (or was it just "separated"?). Er, now that I think of it, that only applies to Hermione (and maybe Ginny?), given what Holly was like...

Heh, if nothing else, a grumbling Harry complaining how he is always dragged into things and how this is a bad idea and finishing things off with perfectly timed explosions will be hilarious.
 

zeebee1

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#6
It started out as a great idea and devolved to decent with your obsession to make this a fusion instead of an interesting version of Harry.
 

Cypher3au

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zeebee1 said:
It started out as a great idea and devolved to decent with your obsession to make this a fusion instead of an interesting version of Harry.
:huh:

Obsession? That's a bit harsh. It's just an idea for people to kick around and play with, using the tough-as-nails, reluctant hero John McClane as an example of the kind of person Harry grow up into. If someone were to only use the first half of the idea to write a story, I sure as hell wouldn't complain.

I suppose, in hindsight, that the whole explosions and missing shoes thing was going a bit far into Die Hard action movie territory...I blame a lack of sleep for that one. But the rest of it is good, right?
 

zeebee1

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#8
Yes. Making Harry interesting is always good. But there is no actual need for a fusion.
 
#9
Fiendfyre + Gasoline in large quantities. Or anything else that's liquid and flammable.

Prediction that this Harry would learn all sorts of interesting fire spells and other highly offensive magic.
 

Dumbledork

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#10
I love the idea. And you should also add John McClane's sarcasm. Sarcastic!Harry would be pure win.
 

sith2886

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#11
arrgh this isn't a fusion. no offense meant but jeez he was using mcClane as an example
 

LonObsrvr

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#12
:rofl: yep all the traditional enemies get themselves mysteriously killed :rofl:
There goes snape, draco various other DE's & annoyances B) ;) ^_^
what fun that'll be to read as they do the mess death thing.
 

lord geryon

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#13
McClane doesn't actually kill people that aren't trying to kill him. Oh sure, he threatens the beat the fuck out of them, and will follow through with that threat, but he doesn't kill unless they try to kill him first.
 

Chi Vayne

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The rescue of Sirius ends with the tower he was imprisoned in collapsing, possibly with a 'why is there always an explosion with you!?' shriek from Hermione.
To which Harry responds, "What do you mean? There wasn't an explosion with the troll. Well, only its head."
 

OniGanon

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In a reference to Die Hard 4, have Harry take out the Hungarian Horntail using the flying Ford Anglia.
 

Cypher3au

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OniGanon said:
In a reference to Die Hard 4, have Harry take out the Hungarian Horntail using the flying Ford Anglia.
My god...that is the single most brilliant idea I have ever read...in the past week or so.

Seriously, why has no one ever thought of this before now?
 

Dumbledork

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Cypher3au said:
OniGanon said:
In a reference to Die Hard 4, have Harry take out the Hungarian Horntail using the flying Ford Anglia.
My god...that is the single most brilliant idea I have ever read...in the past week or so.

Seriously, why has no one ever thought of this before now?
because the idea is... well, stupid?

No seriously, I don't thinka the Ford would be enough to defeat the dragon.
 

Cypher3au

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Dumbledork said:
Cypher3au said:
OniGanon said:
In a reference to Die Hard 4, have Harry take out the Hungarian Horntail using the flying Ford Anglia.
My god...that is the single most brilliant idea I have ever read...in the past week or so.

Seriously, why has no one ever thought of this before now?
because the idea is... well, stupid?

No seriously, I don't thinka the Ford would be enough to defeat the dragon.
Why not? Even if it can only fly as fast as it can drive, it's still moving at more than 120km an hour. Just get the twins to fix the invisibility booster, and fly the invisible automobile at top speed into the dragon's head. A dragon may be tough, but that's still a car slamming into its face.

The only tricky bits to the plan are;

A. Figuring out how to call the car when you need it.

and

B. Figuring out how to survive the head-on, high-speed, mid-air collision with a dragon. Maybe jump out just before impact, and use an 'arresto momentum' spell on yourself before you hit the ground.
 

Euphemism

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C. Convince a semi-aware car to charge head first into a dragon - something that is huge, breathes fire, and capable of crushing the car in a single bite.
 
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Cypher3au said:
Why not?? Even if it can only fly as fast as it can drive, it's still moving at more than 120km an hour.? Just get the twins to fix the invisibility booster, and fly the invisible automobile at top speed into the dragon's head.? A dragon may be tough, but that's still a car slamming into its face.
Cars more durable than a Ford Anglia have been wrecked by slamming into deer which weigh a fraction of the car's weight. The dragon probably weighed between five and six times as much as the car (or more), and is much harder than the deer.
 

Sammi Rei

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nuclear death frog said:
Cypher3au said:
Why not?á Even if it can only fly as fast as it can drive, it's still moving at more than 120km an hour.á Just get the twins to fix the invisibility booster, and fly the invisible automobile at top speed into the dragon's head.á A dragon may be tough, but that's still a car slamming into its face.
Cars more durable than a Ford Anglia have been wrecked by slamming into deer which weigh a fraction of the car's weight. The dragon probably weighed between five and six times as much as the car (or more), and is much harder than the deer.
The above statement is basically the founding reason behind Cow Catchers on trains and some cars, unless I miss my guess.
 

Mighty Bob

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#22
Nevermind slamming into deer/cows. You ever seen what happens when something hits a moose? The car/truck looses every time. And I'm willing to bet a HP dragon is alot bigger/more solid than a moose.

Still, it makes for a fun mental image even if it's not that practical an idea. Personally I always felt that if Harry was boning up on his summoning spell for this Task, why the hell didn't he even try summoning the egg before grabbing his broom? :hmm:
 
#23
Mighty Bob said:
Still, it makes for a fun mental image even if it's not that practical an idea. Personally I always felt that if Harry was boning up on his summoning spell for this Task, why the hell didn't he even try summoning the egg before grabbing his broom? :hmm:
Well, apart from being really dull to read, anti-summoning wards around the egg could probably be put into place so that the contest is a bit more dangerous -- and exciting for the audience.
 

Mighty Bob

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I figure that, but I mean, he didn't even try, or think to try. After all, it seems logical and like common sense to put up anti-summoning wards to us. But then we all know how well wizards fair in those two categories.
 
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Mighty Bob said:
I figure that, but I mean, he didn't even try, or think to try. After all, it seems logical and like common sense to put up anti-summoning wards to us. But then we all know how well wizards fair in those two categories.
What occurs to adults when they are reading in our peaceful homes (or wherever) is not necessarily what would occur to a fourteen year-old boy who is facing a ludicrously dangerous creature many times his size that has many ways of killing him dead dead dead, when he is almost unarmed.
 
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