Akamatsuverse Husbands for Tsuruko

elof · Jan 12, 2011

Chuckg said:

Andrew Joshua Talon said:

... you know, I can actually see this. Bruce Wayne journeyed around the world when young, studying under the greatest masters of each martial arts style that he could find. A younger Tsuroko and him could easily have been students together at a dojo, and since this would be back before actually putting on the Bat-Suit, it explains how Selina lost out: First Girl Wins.

Heck, it changes the whole dynamic; Tsuroko is no stay at home woman, she's going to be out there helping Bruce fight crime as he helps her fight demons.

Well, I guess that spares him all the gay jokes; people are going to be much more understanding of a crimefighting partner who is a hot woman in spandex than of a young boy.

Of course, for extra hilarity, it turns out Kanako has fought Batman before during a brief period of it-really-wasn't-supervillainy-just-training-I-swear. And so she can't explain why Tsuroko's husband terrifies her...

Me likes this one

zeebee1 · Jan 12, 2011

That would alter his perception of metahumans. Tsuruko is a metahuman by training.

Chuckg · Jan 12, 2011

If he attended the same dojo, or has trained with her for any length of time, then Batman is a metahuman by training in this one.

Besides, we know Batman will accept such in the family; case in point, Cassandra Cain.

Ordo · Mar 1, 2011

Chuckg said:

Hmmm I rather like this idea. This totally changes the fate of certain Bat-characters. Oracle is likely still crippled, and Dick Grayson still becomes Nightwing. However, Tsuruko could have a calming effect on Jason Todd.

Jason Todd still becomes Red Hood, but he focuses his efforts more on fighting demons than regular crime, mostly as a way to set himself apart from his adoptive mother and father.

elof · May 24, 2011

Not sure if this has been suggested before but how about Archer from Fate/Stay?

kevinasher · May 24, 2011

Ordo said:

My biggest problem with Bruce and Tsuruko together is that I can't envision the Aoyama family with all that wealth. My image of them is they're wealthy because they have a lot of land as both a family and as a clan, in a nation with one of the highest population densities in the world, and they have modest political ties with high up officials. I can't see them letting Bruce's money even remotely be used for their ends, whether or not Bruce was okay with it. I could see them wanting her to be involved with a schmuck like Keitaro or Kentaro, who have some personal wealth, but not the excessiveness of wealth that is tied to Bruce. I could see the Aoyoma clan leadership wanting someone that could clearly take care of one of their own, but not have the vast wealth they might have, so they could use their own wealth as leverage against the young man.

Then again, Tsuruko, while bound by honor, would be the type to ignore her clan's wishes in who she married and marry a guy she likes, independent of her clan's pride. The other issue I have with the concept, is then it just seems like it would put most of the rest of the LH cast on the sidelines, as no matter how much you want to ignore him, the goddamned Batman is a protagonist, even when viewed as a villain.

Elvarein · May 24, 2011

kevinasher said:

Ordo said:

My biggest problem with Bruce and Tsuruko together is that I can't envision the Aoyama family with all that wealth. My image of them is they're wealthy because they have a lot of land as both a family and as a clan, in a nation with one of the highest population densities in the world, and they have modest political ties with high up officials. I can't see them letting Bruce's money even remotely be used for their ends, whether or not Bruce was okay with it. I could see them wanting her to be involved with a schmuck like Keitaro or Kentaro, who have some personal wealth, but not the excessiveness of wealth that is tied to Bruce. I could see the Aoyoma clan leadership wanting someone that could clearly take care of one of their own, but not have the vast wealth they might have, so they could use their own wealth as leverage against the young man.

Then again, Tsuruko, while bound by honor, would be the type to ignore her clan's wishes in who she married and marry a guy she likes, independent of her clan's pride. The other issue I have with the concept, is then it just seems like it would put most of the rest of the LH cast on the sidelines, as no matter how much you want to ignore him, the goddamned Batman is a protagonist, even when viewed as a villain.

Completely depends on how you play it.

But in anycase, husbands for Tsuruko kinda indicates the main character is Tsuruko or the husband ;p

kevinasher · May 24, 2011

Elvarein said:

kevinasher said:

Ordo said:

My biggest problem with Bruce and Tsuruko together is that I can't envision the Aoyama family with all that wealth. My image of them is they're wealthy because they have a lot of land as both a family and as a clan, in a nation with one of the highest population densities in the world, and they have modest political ties with high up officials. I can't see them letting Bruce's money even remotely be used for their ends, whether or not Bruce was okay with it. I could see them wanting her to be involved with a schmuck like Keitaro or Kentaro, who have some personal wealth, but not the excessiveness of wealth that is tied to Bruce. I could see the Aoyoma clan leadership wanting someone that could clearly take care of one of their own, but not have the vast wealth they might have, so they could use their own wealth as leverage against the young man.

Then again, Tsuruko, while bound by honor, would be the type to ignore her clan's wishes in who she married and marry a guy she likes, independent of her clan's pride. The other issue I have with the concept, is then it just seems like it would put most of the rest of the LH cast on the sidelines, as no matter how much you want to ignore him, the goddamned Batman is a protagonist, even when viewed as a villain.

Completely depends on how you play it.

But in anycase, husbands for Tsuruko kinda indicates the main character is Tsuruko or the husband ;p

Assuming, of course, the fic is called "Husbands for Tsuruko", sure it would seem likely that it is a Tsu/husband-centric fic. But it would also potentially suggest that the major plot of the fic is her going through many husbands. With a different name, it could just be an important plotpoint elsewhere in the fic.

Elvarein · May 24, 2011

kevinasher said:

Elvarein said:

kevinasher said:

Ordo said:

My biggest problem with Bruce and Tsuruko together is that I can't envision the Aoyama family with all that wealth. My image of them is they're wealthy because they have a lot of land as both a family and as a clan, in a nation with one of the highest population densities in the world, and they have modest political ties with high up officials. I can't see them letting Bruce's money even remotely be used for their ends, whether or not Bruce was okay with it. I could see them wanting her to be involved with a schmuck like Keitaro or Kentaro, who have some personal wealth, but not the excessiveness of wealth that is tied to Bruce. I could see the Aoyoma clan leadership wanting someone that could clearly take care of one of their own, but not have the vast wealth they might have, so they could use their own wealth as leverage against the young man.

Then again, Tsuruko, while bound by honor, would be the type to ignore her clan's wishes in who she married and marry a guy she likes, independent of her clan's pride. The other issue I have with the concept, is then it just seems like it would put most of the rest of the LH cast on the sidelines, as no matter how much you want to ignore him, the goddamned Batman is a protagonist, even when viewed as a villain.

Completely depends on how you play it.

But in anycase, husbands for Tsuruko kinda indicates the main character is Tsuruko or the husband ;p

Assuming, of course, the fic is called "Husbands for Tsuruko", sure it would seem likely that it is a Tsu/husband-centric fic. But it would also potentially suggest that the major plot of the fic is her going through many husbands. With a different name, it could just be an important plotpoint elsewhere in the fic.

/blink.

Err was talking about the Topic Name.

Typhonis · May 25, 2011

Well Tsuroko droping in on Motoko unanounced will be fun .Especially if Bruce drops his mask around her since she is family.

Motoko stared at her sisters smiling face. "Honored el-elder sister whats brings you here,alone?"

She did her best to keep the hopefull tone out of her voice. Her hopes died quickly when one of the most terrifying voices she knew spoke up behind her .

"Whats makes you think she came here without me, her husband, little sister?"

kevinasher · May 26, 2011

Typhonis said:

I couldn't see Motoko knowing about Bruce's evening escapades unless she had found out on some kind of accident. And walking in on Bruce in his costume just doesn't seem likely. Bruce is too careful for that kind of thing to happen. He takes his job as a caped crusader very seriously, especially not letting people in on the secret.

Lord Raine · May 26, 2011

Negi Springfield. Because.

Elvarein · May 26, 2011

Lord Raine said:

Meh. Far Too young.

Jack Rakan. Now thats where its at ;p

(That just might be a legitimate reason for Motoko's scarring/

DhampyrX2 · May 26, 2011

kevinasher said:

There's a difference between knowing he's Batman and just knowing his real non-fop personality. A personality, incidentally, that he would no longer have to play to the hilt while married to Tsuruko. You don't need to say you're chasing skirts when you have wife to be at home with as an alibi for why you're not in the office.

His sensei in Japan from the animated series was a good example of knowing the real him without the mask. Granted it was implied in the extreme that Sensei himself knew Bruce was Batman when he corrected Bruce about badmouthing himself/Batman at the end of the episode, but he was still someone that knew the real Bruce without the mask. In fact, everyone in that dojo knew of Bruce the dedicated fighter and martial arts master, which does NOT match his public persona.

In this case, it could be the same thing with Motoko. She sees how strong and driven the REAL Bruce Wayne is without associating him with Batman. Frankly, Bruce without the mask would be enough to scare and intimidate her.

kevinasher · May 26, 2011

DhampyrX2 said:

You say that Bruce isn't really a foppish spoiled rich guy when he can be on his own. I contend that Bruce is no less the foppish billionaire/trillionaire we see at his greatly lavish parties throughout Gotham than he is the crime fighter that stops his sad gang of villains of Gotham, or the guy that is a major leader among superhumans and metahumans who defend the planet Earth, or the grief-striken son of two wealthy and powerful, loving parents. Bruce makes a play at being the fop you claim he isn't because it suits his needs, in that he needs to maintain the city of Gotham both mentally as a bastion of hope, as well as a power-base. He makes himself seem like a fop because it gives people the impression of a weakness; he is incapable of making good lifestyle decisions and drinks much to excess... It is part of who he is. But I don't think he'd lose that facet of his personality just because he got married. He'd adapt it to the truth. He'd probably make a play at Tsuruko holding a leash on him or something.

I couldn't see Bruce completely forgoing that necessary portion of himself just because he were married. He'd still play it up, just in a different manner. Motoko would still have issue with Bruce, but NOT because she sees a glimpse into the Batman when she finds him to be very calculated and driven on some task that seems to be a fool's errand. Motoko is attracted, much to her chagrin, to men with goals and a strong sense of conviction. The fact that he's a master strategist might irk her as she probably wouldn't understand the value of his chessmastery, but it wouldn't be a failure of him in her eyes, as he gets shit done, and still stands on the moral high ground.

She'd have issue with him that he was, in her eyes, a massive fraud, once she found out that he's the Batman, and also that he was the fop/misogynist till then. In time, she would forgive him for the former when she comes around to realizing the necessity of it all, and the latter would be a moot point once she realizes it was a part of the act.

Typhonis · May 26, 2011

Private face and Public face. In public where all can see he acts like a fool and the only calming influence in his life is Tsuroko. nprivate is a different matter altogether . The fact he can pull the public face off so well would have the Aoyama clan cackling in the bathhouse and Motoko wouldn't breath a word of it.

DhampyrX2 · May 26, 2011

Notice I said he would not have to play it to the hilt, not that he would discard it altogether. He would be significantly less over the top with Tsuruko at his side, but he'd still be the public Bruce Wayne to a degree, too. I think the best way I ever heard it described was something along the lines that despite what happened to his parents being public knowledge, a budget that outstrips some countries for his equipment, the fact that he was totally unaccounted for in Gotham for the decade and a half or so he was training, and the fact he successfully runs a multi-national corporation second only to Lexcorp in power people do not think Bruce Wayne could be Batman because they all think Bruce Wayne is too stupid to walk and chew gum at the same time.

Some know parts of the truth, but still don't put it together. Many would assume he acts stupid and lets Lucius Fox handle things publicly to make business rivals underestimate him. Motoko would know he was a warrior and not the philandering cad portrayed in the papers but would not assume he was Batman. She'd just know her sister married someone as scary as Tsuruko herself can be. In fact, he'd intimidate her without meaning to. One thing Bruce does is put family thorugh their paces to make sure they're safe. Him and Tsuruko together? Yeah, I'd run to the Hinata-Sou too.

You know, this would be the only time that having Damien there would be entertaining to me. Granted, given changes to the timeline and all that Damien might not even exist (YAY!) but I could see him and Jason showing up and calling Motoko Auntie just to get a rise out of her similar to the way Keitaro unintentially ticks off Haruka with it.

ragnarok1337 · May 26, 2011

In the Animated Series-verse, Bruce isn't just a playboy. He is also a rather competent manager of Wayne Enterprises. Yes, I know that he is in the other comics, but the Animated-verse is one of the few places where he shows it apart from his secret identity.

Ordo · May 26, 2011

At this point we have a valid justification and a few interpretations of how things would pan out in a Wayne/Aoyma wedding. I say we start a new thread dedicated to exploring this particular pairing and the subsequent impact it has on Gotham, the Wayne family, the Aoymas, Hina Inn and even the Justice League.

Hmmm how would Clark handle learning that his old friend is getting married....

DhampyrX2 · May 26, 2011

I would think the keep the ages close that it would be early in Bruce's mission i.e. he meets Tsuruko while training and she pulls him somewhat out of his pre-Robin Bat-darkness when he starts his vigilante career. Say the meet again in his third year as the Bat or so. He's met Clark (and possibly Diana) but he's not buddy-buddy with them. Maybe taking in Dick makes him think of starting a family and giving Dick a mother figure as he happens to meet Tsuruko again while on a business trip. Wackiness then ensues.

Typhonis · May 26, 2011

Tsuroko shows up in Gotham with a wedding ring on her hand and for most Bruce's earlier mysterious absences are fully explined. He was courting and then marrying a young woman in Japan , in secret . Why to keep the damn paparazi from finding out.

The fact she seems smarter and is beautiful is just showing he had one good idea at the time.

Meinos Kaen · May 27, 2011

DhampyrX2 said:

Heh. Would be madness if they decided to make the wedding at the Hinata and for that the whole Batfamily drops in. All the Robins and the Batgirls and a few more... MADNESS! XD

Ordo · May 27, 2011

Warning Spoilers for Rebuild of Eva 2.22 ahead.

The Shinji Ikari from <a href='http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnW08kuTOKg&feature=related' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>This Clip</a> all grown up and ready to kick butt.

ragnarok1337 · May 27, 2011

Ordo said:

*coughs*

Really? I think you posted in the wrong thread.

Dark Knight Gafgar · May 27, 2011

ragnarok1337 said:

Don't you see? He's clearly suggesting Shinji as Tsuruko's husband.

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