Harry Potter I Am Hero

kilerog

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#26
You could always bring it down to character interaction. Each type of hero!Harry will be recieved in different ways. What sort of relationship do you want him to have with the public/authorities?

Also, how quickly do you even want to bring the public into this? Icon!Harry is gonna catch peoples' attention pretty quickly, whereas the other two could operate below the radar for quite some time.
 
#27
If Harry went the Deterrent route, it would fit in a few ways. One of those ways would be to be an anti-Voldemort-He strikes fear in the hearts of those who would do evil, turns it around and makes that power his own. Harry knows what it's like to be fearful and helpless, and in a bit of vindictiveness as well as poetic justice he'd make sure every magical thug and would-be-dark lord felt fear of him.

At his core though, Harry is a Good Samaritan. He goes out of his way to help people. It's possible he could do both that and the Deterrent, it just depends on the situation. He can put out fires and help a girl get a cat out of a tree just as easily as he can scare the shit out of bad guys. I don't think Harry would want good people fearing him, just bad ones.
 
#28
As for his persona... Well, here's a thought:

Mulciber had been running for quite a while, unable to Apparate for fear of being spotted by the Aurors. The chaos that had erupted after Voldemort's death had given him the means to escape, and he'd taken it. Years had gone by, and Mulciber had slipped into the Muggle world. Imperius got him whatever he desired, as did his other spells. He was a god among insects in the Muggle World. Criminal enterprises came easily under his sway.

He was unstoppable here. He had no desire to return to the Wizarding World. Not when his power here was absolute.

He sat in his office, enjoying the sight of mostly nude women coupling before him, his wand tapping on his desk as he contemplated this power. For money, these women did this. Imperius worked just as well, but there was a perverse thrill in turning the power of the Muggles back on them.

The sounds of gunfire erupted outside, and Mulciber rose. "Keep going, I'll be back," he growled to the whores, as he opened the door and looked outside into the nightclub that served as his front.

His men were firing on something in the dark club, and just as quickly going down as a black shape flew through them. Mulciber didn't know what it was and he didn't want to know-He turned heel and ran for the backdoor, pulling out his cellphone to call in more security.

He opened the back door, and sprinted out-Only to slam into someone big and solid. He was sent sprawling on his back.

"Gah! What the-?!" He looked up in rage... And felt fear and uncertainty rise inside him. The figure above him was clothed in black, a cloak waving lightly in the breeze. He wore a tall witch's hat, one that completely shadowed his face to the point it was as though the man was merely a shadow in human form. Only a pair of eyes, as green as a Killing Curse, glowed out from the dark face.

"Mulciber... Took me a while, but I finally found you," he growled. Mulciber went for his wand, but the figure waved his hand and the wand flew flew into his grasp. The man snapped it in two, before he grabbed Mulciber by his collar and lifted him up before shoving him hard against the wall of the alley.

"Y-You don't-I'm not-Who are you?!" Mulciber stammered. "I don't know who you are!"

"Call me Wizard, if you must call me something," Wizard growled. "And you're coming with me."

Several of his men came around, guns drawn. The Wizard looked to the side, as Mulciber struggled to pull his second wand. A knee to his groin disabused him of following through.

"Ook!"

"I wouldn't worry, Mulciber. Azkaban is nice this time of year," the Wizard said. "As for the rest of your thugs, well..." He produced a vial and smashed it in Mulciber's face. The former Death Eater yelped as a green slime expanded out over his body, holding him fast. The Wizard's face was hidden, but Mulciber got the strangest feeling he was smirking as he cracked his knuckles.

"More scumbags off the street in either world is a good thing for us all..."
 

kilerog

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#29
Nice, I like how you gave Wizard more emotions than the typical Badass Looming while still keeping him threatening.

I was a little disoriented at first since "Mulciber had been running..." made me think we were watching a chase scene at firsy, but I quickly got what you meant.
 
#30
I think The Wizard works in several ways for Harry's alter ego. First and foremost is that it is wish fulfillment in several ways. It's a generic title but Harry never wanted to stand out in the first place. He's defined by what he DOES, not who he is. Therefore, he's just another wizard in a sense.
 

Perfection

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#31
Request made, presence affirmed.

What would be some of the problems he faces?
He can't get caught under any circumstances. Mixing magic with "Muggle Artifacts" is highly illegal. There's no way he could get away with Batman'ing himself up with enchanted guns, magitech gadgets, and what-all. The only reason Arthur can is because he wrote those laws, and made sure that there was a loophole that makes it technically legal as long as you never actually intended to use them. But it would be obvious that Harry did: it's not a hobby like Arthur's. So for starters, not only must he avoid discovery at all costs, but he's already breaking the law above and beyond what most masked crimefighers are (most of them are 'merely' guilty of vigilantism).

Of course the real challenge here is this: Who the hell is Harry Potter going to fight?
Death Eaters. Voldemort was stated to be "the greatest Dark Lord of all time." This seems incredibly shallow next to Grindelwald, who basically made the Third Reich. So make it so he is. Don't have the Death Eaters number in the dozens. Make them number in the thousands. Don't confine Voldemort's activities to the United Kingdom and some isolated bits of Europe. Make it global.

Harry is up against a network of conspiracy and magical terrorism that spans the entire planet. All he has is a wand, the Potter fortune, and whatever he can get away with stealing or making on his own. That's a story that's worth telling, right there.
 

Lord of Bones

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#32
IIRC, Voldemort was the 'greatest dark wizard' in a hundred years, not the greatest one to ever live.
 

kilerog

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#33
I doubt the Death Eaters could maintain a single unified faction after Voldemort kicked the bucket. With an organization as large as you're painting it, especially an international one, it would be really hard to maintain cohesion without they guy who brought them all together in the first place. Most likely they'd break up into a number of smaller factions; some smaller some larger, but each scrambling to consolidate their holdings and looking to get a bigger piece of the pie.

That's not even mentioning the dark creatures Voldemort had working for him. I doubt hardcore pureblood elititists would be able to cooperate with them for long, now that Voldy isn't here to scare them into submission. Not saying that every faction would be dumb enough to throw away potential allies, but I can easily see Greyback taking back full control of the werewolves for his own agenda.

That's the world Wizard finds himself in. A magical underground turf war making lives miserable for everyone.

And isn't it time for another Goblin Rebellion, what with the wizards being preoccupied and all?
 
#34
kilerog said:
I doubt the Death Eaters could maintain a single unified faction after Voldemort kicked the bucket. With an organization as large as you're painting it, especially an international one, it would be really hard to maintain cohesion without they guy who brought them all together in the first place. Most likely they'd break up into a number of smaller factions; some smaller some larger, but each scrambling to consolidate their holdings and looking to get a bigger piece of the pie.

That's not even mentioning the dark creatures Voldemort had working for him. I doubt hardcore pureblood elititists would be able to cooperate with them for long, now that Voldy isn't here to scare them into submission. Not saying that every faction would be dumb enough to throw away potential allies, but I can easily see Greyback taking back full control of the werewolves for his own agenda.

That's the world Wizard finds himself in. A magical underground turf war making lives miserable for everyone.

And isn't it time for another Goblin Rebellion, what with the wizards being preoccupied and all?
In other words, Harry's going to be busy... And he'll probably need some help even if his first reaction is to keep his friends and allies at arms length to protect them.

So, what are the other members of his little clique's reactions to this? Ron, after being exposed to Muggle comic books might be gung ho about becoming Harry's sidekick (sure, the war with Voldemort was rough but this time they'd have the advantage). Hermione, being the responsible one but unable to talk Harry out of it, would try to help however she could. The others...? Well, you offer your thoughts.
 

Clell65619

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#35
Lord of Bones said:
IIRC, Voldemort was the 'greatest dark wizard' in a hundred years, not the greatest one to ever live.
- Every time I read that I find myself wondering what was Grindelwald? Chopped liver? Old Gellert ran a world war (or at least a European war) while Voldemort ran a guerrilla action in Britain.

Why is Voldemort the more powerful wizard?
 
#36
Because that makes him seem more of a problem in the books. Besides, there's plot holes the size of mountains in the books.

Having the British wizards consider Voldemort the worst thing since mid-day soap operas isn't that big of a stretch. They seem very concerned with themselves, and if Grindelwald wasn't actively attacking Magical Britain, they probably would have been content to let the continent deal with it.
 

Chuckg

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#37
kilerog said:
I doubt the Death Eaters could maintain a single unified faction after Voldemort kicked the bucket.á With an organization as large as you're painting it, especially an international one, it would be really hard to maintain cohesion without they guy who brought them all together in the first place. Most likely they'd break up into a number of smaller factions; some smaller some larger, but each scrambling to consolidate their holdings and looking to get a bigger piece of the pie.
My money would be (at least, before his fall from grace) on Lucius Malfoy to end up the dominant one... not only does he seem to be the smart one of the bunch, but Bellatrix isn't going to be making any bids for leadership herself becuase she's not interested in being a general... and while she has no special feelings for Lucius, she actually still feels some kinship for Narcissa and Draco. So, she'll most likely go along with her brother-in-law. (She definitely showed more concern for Narcissa than I've ever seen her show for her husband... who might just come along with her anyway, as she seemed to wear the pants.)

Edit: Either that, or Bellatrix completely falls apart psychologically on realizing that the Dark Lord is never coming back, at which point Lucius goes 'Narcissa? Try to get your sister to grok that she at least still has revenge on the Light to live for, and that working with us is her best hope of getting it. I'll be waiting here outside the door until you get her calmed down.'

And with Lucius and Bellatrix allied, well, that's going to dominate a goodly chunk of the rest.

Besides, Lucius would make a great Batman villain. :)
 

kilerog

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#38
Clell65619 said:
Lord of Bones said:
IIRC, Voldemort was the 'greatest dark wizard' in a hundred years, not the greatest one to ever live.
- Every time I read that I find myself wondering what was Grindelwald? Chopped liver? Old Gellert ran a world war (or at least a European war) while Voldemort ran a guerrilla action in Britain.

Why is Voldemort the more powerful wizard?
Don't forget that he's called "the greatest dark lord" by the same population that he's terrorised just a few years before/is terrorising.

It's like if you ask someone who they fear more, the Taliban or the Nazis? It's not that one is less powerful than the other, its just that Voldemort is the one in recent memory/is meaningful to them.

I imagine if you asked a Durmstrang students about whether Grindewald or Voldemort were greater, they'd give you a very different opinion.

Edit: @Chuckg: Of the England faction, sure. But not of all the foreign Death Eater forces, not with the numbers being what Lord Raine is saying they should be. Even in Britain, I'd think there would be one or two small groups to rival Lucius, even if they're not that successful.

Actually, that might make an interesting plot point; Lucius manipulates Wizard into taking out his rivals so he can consolidate his hold on the Death Eaters.
 

kilerog

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#39
Andrew Joshua Talon said:
kilerog said:
I doubt the Death Eaters could maintain a single unified faction after Voldemort kicked the bucket.á With an organization as large as you're painting it, especially an international one, it would be really hard to maintain cohesion without they guy who brought them all together in the first place. Most likely they'd break up into a number of smaller factions; some smaller some larger, but each scrambling to consolidate their holdings and looking to get a bigger piece of the pie.

That's not even mentioning the dark creatures Voldemort had working for him.á I doubt hardcore pureblood elititists would be able to cooperate with them for long, now that Voldy isn't here to scare them into submission.á Not sayingá that every faction would be dumb enough to throw away potential allies, but I can easily see Greyback taking back full control of the werewolves for his own agenda.

That's the world Wizard finds himself in. A magical underground turf war making lives miserable for everyone.

And isn't it time for another Goblin Rebellion, what with the wizards being preoccupied and all?
In other words, Harry's going to be busy... And he'll probably need some help even if his first reaction is to keep his friends and allies at arms length to protect them.

So, what are the other members of his little clique's reactions to this? Ron, after being exposed to Muggle comic books might be gung ho about becoming Harry's sidekick (sure, the war with Voldemort was rough but this time they'd have the advantage). Hermione, being the responsible one but unable to talk Harry out of it, would try to help however she could. The others...? Well, you offer your thoughts.
Sorry for the double post.

Ron would probably react just the way you depict him. Hermione can easily slip into an Alfred/Oracle type role, maybe even going into the field every once in a while if she's needed. I'd imagine Ginny (if you're going by canon pairings) would initially be suspicious about where Harry keeps running off to and (if she ever finds out) would either be a) angry that Harry is putting himself at risk when he doesn't have to or b ) angry that Harry is keeping this from her once again like he tried to keep her "safe" in 6th/7th year.

Luna as Wizard's #1 Star Reporter? Her Quibbler articles would help to make him even more into an urban myth than he already was.

Here's a question for ya, what's Harry's civilian identity? Auror, researcher, business owner, reporter for the Quibbler, Quidditch player, man of leisure?
 

Anonguy

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#40
"In the length and breadth of history, wizards remain a foolhardy lot. With the wondrous power of magic at their finger tips, they have far too often sat on their hands to keep the club exclusive to themselves. They say the muggles are dangerous, that if they learned of our existence, they'd hunt us all down, marginalize us as assets and take from us our rights to the magic we wield. Maybe they're right, but this separation of our two worlds only serves to strengthen the grips of evil in both. Dispersing themselves amongst the muggles, these servants of the Dark plant down their roots and infect both worlds with their poisonous evil and hatred. Dark Lords rise because there are places to hide, magic forgotten and locked away to be pulled out and harnessed. I say, someone should find them where they hide. Someone should let them know there is nowhere to run, no place safe from justice. And that someone might as well be me, Harry Potter. They called me 'The Boy Who Lived', but that wasn't a title I earned by deed. No matter what they call me now, what names they'll come up with for me after I begin my quest, all that matters is that those who lay with evil know me only as 'Justice'. I am coming, and there's nowhere for you to run, no way for you to deny me. Let them brand me what they will, let them scorn me long into the bitter night, I don't care. I am hero, and that is all that needs to be said."

Bleh, something in my head that wanted out.
 
#41
Thanks for sharing it with us Marik, it's great.

One idea I had was one of the Slytherin girls (Pansy Parkinson perhaps) becoming a thief because she wanted to make her own money outside of everything that had been given to her her entire life, and for the thrill of fighting the Wizard. What do you think?
 
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