Bleach Ichigo Imprints

Amodelsino

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#26
ran_hoshino said:
This is true, however, the reader is never really shown what shapes a zanpakutou's form and abilities.á I personally believe that the characters personality plays at least some part in it, if only because most of the zanpakutous we've seen in the manga seem to fit the personality and overall style of the users very well.
Probably, but there is no indication that you have any choice (even subconsciously) in what your Zanpakuto looks like and does. For instance, we have no idea why Zangetsu's ability is compression of spiritual energy.

Thus, even if Ichigo imprinted on Darth Vader or Anakin Skywalker's personality, it's extremely unlikely he would get anything resembling a Lightsaber.

EDIT: Actually, given Ichigo's naturally large and unruly power, Zangetsu is more likely an example that a Zanpakuto's abilities form around what you need more than what you want. It's less an expression of the personality and more a tool that takes the most necessary form.

Ichigo is a close range fighter with massive power that he can't utilize to its full extent (mostly due to his lack of training). Thus Zangetsu becomes a tool that aids him in his strength (close range), gives him a long range attack to make up for the glaring weakness (Getsuga Tenshou), and helps him to better use his power by compressing any he puts into it. The very fact that it boosts his speed in Bankai (which is what he lacked and needed before it) only supports this.
 

ran_hoshino

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#27
Amodelsino said:
Probably, but there is no indication that you have any choice (even subconsciously) in what your Zanpakuto looks like and does. For instance, we have no idea why Zangetsu's ability is compression of spiritual energy.

Thus, even if Ichigo imprinted on Darth Vader or Anakin Skywalker's personality, it's extremely unlikely he would get anything resembling a Lightsaber.

EDIT: Actually, given Ichigo's naturally large and unruly power, Zangetsu is more likely an example that a Zanpakuto's abilities form around what you need more than what you want. It's less an expression of the personality and more a tool that takes the most necessary form.

Ichigo is a close range fighter with massive power that he can't utilize to its full extent (mostly due to his lack of training). Thus Zangetsu becomes a tool that aids him in his strength (close range), gives him a long range attack to make up for the glaring weakness (Getsuga Tenshou), and helps him to better use his power by compressing any he puts into it. The very fact that it boosts his speed in Bankai (which is what he lacked and needed before it) only supports this.
What you say is very true, and in fact I am inclined to agree with you. However as we are not sure all we can do is speculate until Kubo gives us a firm answer. Also, I am always rather hesitant to use Ichigo as an example for any thing in Bleach, becuase let's face it, a paragon of normality even by Bleach's standards, he ain't.

On a note relating to the orignal topic of this thread, I had the strangest idea of Ichigo imprinting on Griffith from Berserk. The problem was I couldn't decide when I want him to imprint on Griffith, or maybe that should be which version of Griffith I wanted him to imprint on.
 

Amodelsino

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#28
ran_hoshino said:
On a note relating to the orignal topic of this thread, I had the strangest idea of Ichigo imprinting on Griffith from Berserk.? The problem was I couldn't decide when I want him to imprint on Griffith, or maybe that should be which version of Griffith I wanted him to imprint on.
Given how Ichigo is naturally. I would think he would imprint on Griffith's drive and competence as the leader of the Hawks rather than the emotionless sociopath he was after he became the God of Demons.

On top of simply not having any sort of empathic connections to someone like PostEclipse!Griffith, how would Ichigo imprint on him in the first place? Griffith only showed up as the leader of the Hawks in the anime, and Berserk isn't exactly the most mainstream manga.
 

ran_hoshino

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#29
Amodelsino said:
Given how Ichigo is naturally. I would think he would imprint on Griffith's drive and competence as the leader of the Hawks rather than the emotionless sociopath he was after he became the God of Demons.

On top of simply not having any sort of empathic connections to someone like PostEclipse!Griffith, how would Ichigo imprint on him in the first place? Griffith only showed up as the leader of the Hawks in the anime, and Berserk isn't exactly the most mainstream manga.
Ah, forgive me, I see now that I wasn't very clear in the Griffith post. I have to confess that I have never seen the Berserk Anime. So my natural inclination was to use the manga. If you seen, can I ask if you would reccomend the anime version?

I do agree that for a young Ichigo HawkLeader!Griffith was what I had in mind for an imprint. If only becaused Griffith seems more capable than just about any other Shinigami Captain, and seeing a set of battles were tatics were use as the main weapon against Aizen amused me for some reason.

As for Ichigo imprinting on PostEclipse!Griffith, I have to admit that the only way I could think of to use that one was by using the much postulated on after after Aizen arc where many have theorized that Seireitei will be the enemy again. If anyones intrested in that idea I'll be more than happy to post it when I get the chance.
 

Draconis

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#30
from what I am reading, the Zanpakuto has abilities based on preferred fighting style as well as personality. So far each person with one has functions that work with them.

Soi Fon the ninja girl has the assassin stinger thing.

Ichigo blunt brawler that he is gets to smash and blow stuff up.

Kuchiki the cold noble has his elegant and surprisingly deceptive one.

so it looks like the sword evolves with how you think and fight.
A true pacifist would have one that projects barriers or heals only with no offensive ability if that is so.


Just my two cents...
 

Amodelsino

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#31
ran_hoshino said:
Ah, forgive me, I see now that I wasn't very clear in the Griffith post.á I have to confess that I have never seen the Berserk Anime.á So my natural inclination was to use the manga.á If you seen, can I ask if you would reccomend the anime version?
The anime version is just Griffith Pre-Eclipse (because the anime only ran for one season). The only reason I brought that up is that I couldn't really see a reason why Ichigo, as a 9 year old, would be reading a Seinen manga as graphic and mature as Berserk.

I'd say Griffith would be an interesting imprint, depending on how the author executed it anyway.

Actually, why so fantasy everyone? Ichigo doesn't have to imprint on a fictitious character after all. Personally, I think the most interesting imprint would be....




















Urahara Kisuke. :ph43r:
 

Ta'al

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#32
Interesting, would his Zanpakatou be Benihime, or Kisuke himself?



Vampire anime/film (take your pick, or generalise)

This is more of a Zanpakatou concept, so feel free to decide which Vampire Ichigo has imprinted on.

Sealed Form: Katana, Blood red Saya and Wrappings. Fanged Tsuba design.

Shikai Call: Drink, Vampyr.

Shikai Form: The blade grows small, thirsty fangs the size of fine needles, they lick out of the edge when an opponent is cut.

Shikai Abilities: Opponnents cut with this blade have their' reiatsu drained continuously by a slowly thinning connection with the blade, this weakens them and strengthens the wielder, also providing some protection from that persons Kido (similar to Apoll Grantz(sp?), he becomes adjusted to the enemies 'frequency' and can better defend against it.

Bankai Call: Consume, Wamphirii.

Bankai Form: Blade turns blood red and grows, a trailing thin trickle of blood flows from the hilt, adding a time limit to the Bankai. The Shinigami's Kimono turns blood red as does their' eyes.

Bankai Abilities: Beings with spiritual powers slain by this blade are absorbed, consumed by the wielder leaving their' knowledge, abilities and even their' Zanpakatou's the property of the wielder as their' spirits are enslaved within the wielder's inner world.
Note, to prevent twinking this ability has two major hindrances.

1: The victim is chained within the inner world, however they must be convinced to share their' skills with Ichigo. The problem is that the chains only hold them as long as Ichigo's will is greater than theirs', they can essentially challenge Ichigo to become the king; though only once and only one at a time. Defeat means absorption into Ichigo's greater spirit, granting him their' knowledge, abilities and reiatsu. However, Ichigo places his soul as the wager, if he looses, their' places are reversed. Note that this challenge need not be combat, it could be will, a riddle, a game of chess, etc. But both agree beforehand on the forum. (might be fun to see zanpakatou cheerleaders!)

2: The victim's Zanpakatou is brought with them, and following Ichigos absorption of their' former wielders, he may manifest them sealed and go from there. While it is not impossible for him to attain multiple bankai, in theory, in practice that would be extremely difficult as the Zanpakatou is not attuned to Ichigo's personality like his own, and would take far more work to earn it's respect.

EG> Ichigo defeats and kills Byakua, who is drawn soul and blade into ichigo's. Ichigo must then claim his soul (described above); he may then call meet Senbonzakura for the first time, manifest his/her blade and try to earn the Shikai/Bankai.
 

Amodelsino

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#33
[quote="Ta']Interesting, would his Zanpakatou be Benihime, or Kisuke himself?[/quote]
Neither most likely. Even if Ichigo were to imprint on Kisuke's personality, he still wouldn't have the same 'talents' or 'predispositions' as the man (and I don't think the mental manifestation of the Zanpakuto has anything to do the shinigami's memories, as Zangetsu's is just some bad ass looking guy, not someone Ichigo admires). Although I doubt it's abilities would be the same as canon given that Ichigo would probably end up thinking differently, and thus he would fight and use his powers in a completely different way...

Honestly, it would depend on just how much Ichigo would attempt (even if it's subconsciously) to emulate Kisuke's methods and behaviors. Especially if he knew about Shinigami, Spiritual Energy etc. (although I suppose he would have to to know Kisuke in the first place). I must admit though, <s>Mad</s>Eccentric-Scientist!Ichigo is an intriguing concept in and of itself.
 
#34
how about flame of recca or shadow skill or ninja scroll
no idea how you would do them.
 

ran_hoshino

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#35
john1177 said:
how about flame of recca or shadow skill or ninja scroll
no idea how you would do them.
Wow, I must say that I wasn't expecting to see this again for awhile.

As for your suggestions; be more specific, who would you like to see Ichigo imprint off of, Recca Hanabishi, Kurei, Jubei Yagyu, Gau Ban? Which one seems the most intresting to you and why? How will Ichigo imprinting on one of these characters change the story? For that matter what made Ichigo choose that character to imprint on? Those are some of the question that you need to ask as you come up with ideas.

Still, I admit that I can see some potential in some of the characters from the series you mention.
 
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