Live Action TMNT by Michael Bay

[Ordo]

Because Michal Bay loves you SO much....he changed the title of the film...

<a href='http://movies.ign.com/articles/122/1221679p1.html' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>TMNT changed to 'Ninja Turtles'</a>

Normally I'd quote Michael Bay....but this time I shall quote the posters on IGN

Wow, glad I didn't jump on the bandwagon and bash Bay before I knew what the f'ing movie was really about. Sounds like a good creative team so far. I'm a hardcore TMNT fan from the start of the comics, and I thought Bay's original announcement was exciting.á Good to see the turtles getting Hollywood style treatment. Because if I wanted to, I could just go back and read the original turtle comics, IF all I ever wanted was for everything to stay exactly as it always was, all the freakin time!!

Not a big deal for me.á It's what we all call it anyway.á Who the hell calls it "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles" every single time?

Come on, people.á Stop making a mountain out of a mole hill.á Just be thankful they aren't calling it "Teenage Turtles from Outer Space" or something.

I don't know what all the hate for Bay is. I know I am going to get hardcore nerd flamed for this but I could care less. Are the Transformers movies the best movies ever made? No. Do they deserve every single award? No. But they are still entertaining and fun to watch. 1 was good. 2 was alright. 3 was good as well. But I don't understand why every nerd out there has to cry over his movies because they aren't exactly what they wanted it to be. "But he ruined the whole original story and left out many important characters!" Well since when is a re-adaptation ever exactly like the original source material? Hardly ever if at all. A bunch of nerds need to grow up. They are just movies meant for entertainment.

I thought the transformers movies were ok. I couldn't stand Shia Lebouf, but that's not Bay's problem. And the storys could have been better. But the stories from the original cartoons weren't any better. (Pretty much story was about storing energon cubes for no reason.) Still the movies delivered on what was important. Giant Robots fighting. Was else did there need to be? I personally would have like the movies more, if they skipped the storyline totally, and just had scenes of robots fighting for 2 hours straight.)

Man talk about everyone getting on the hate bang wagon on bay again. This is getting stupid and old you all r just hating to hate and agreeing because the other person is saying it. Nothing wrong with shorting the title. Your comments about shortening names and stuff is cute but dumb. You are all going to go see it, your all going to enjoy it, just like you did with Transformers, and then say you hate it just to agree with everyone. JUST SHUT UP AND GROW UP!! I think what he is doing is fine i don't want to see the same movie i saw in the first one twice. Making the same movie would be stupid and a waste of time.

...You share a planet with these people....

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[Bill Felix]

I'm actually not surprised. This stuff is pretty par-the-course for Michael Bay.

 

[goldenarms]

I'm actually not surprised. This stuff is pretty par-the-course for Michael Bay.

The more surprising thing I've learned was that Kevin Eastman is the guy working with Michael Bay.

What makes this surprising is that Eastman no longer owns any rights to TMNT and hasn't since 2000 (he doesn't even get residuals anymore since Laird completed the buyout in 2008). Reason being? Peter Laird had come to the conclusion that Eastman just grew tired of TMNT and wanted to move on to doing other things.

And speaking of Laird, <a href='http://movies.ign.com/articles/122/1221503p1.html' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>he commented on the alien background</a>. Here's what was said:

Coming from a less optimistic point of view, TMNT's other original co-creator Peter Laird addressed the issue earlier this week in his blog, sarcastically writing that a planet of turtles was (kinda) cool. Unfortunately, Laird's cheeky response was taken a bit too literally in the translation. As a result, the comic book writer followed up his comment with another entry:

"Did you really get out of what I wrote that I in any way, shape or form LIKE the idea of a planet of Turtles? If so, I guess I have to re-think how I express myself," Laird wrote. "Just so it's absolutely clear -- I think a planet of turtles is not, in and of itself, a bad idea for some kind of science fiction/fantasy story. But as a way to explain any aspect of the backstory of TMNT, I think it is awful and unnecessary. Of course, we have no idea at this point if the plan is to have a planet of Turtles. It's probably a good idea to wait and see."

So, the guy that actually, you know, completely owns the rights to the Turtles thinks it's a bad idea and unnecessary. Of course, that's not the guy they're working with. They went with the co-creator that pretty much doesn't give a shit, and therefore, lets them get away with murder.

At this point, let's hire Uwe Boll to direct. He literally couldn't fuck this up any more than if he turned the Turtles into prostitutes and made Splinter their pimp.

And I am amazed that those posters from IGN could still mange to type coherently as deep as they were throating Bay's cock. Especially this gem:

I don't know what all the hate for Bay is. I know I am going to get hardcore nerd flamed for this but I could care less. Are the Transformers movies the best movies ever made? No. Do they deserve every single award? No. But they are still entertaining and fun to watch. 1 was good. 2 was alright. 3 was good as well. But I don't understand why every nerd out there has to cry over his movies because they aren't exactly what they wanted it to be. "But he ruined the whole original story and left out many important characters!" Well since when is a re-adaptation ever exactly like the original source material? Hardly ever if at all. A bunch of nerds need to grow up. They are just movies meant for entertainment.

:no:

So, by this piece of commentary, it's totally cool for me to rewrite Superman a shellshocked war veteran that gets hit with a piece of kryptonite and gains super powers, fights a psychic murderer conducting experiments in the name of aliens and has a wild attraction to the alien princess named Barda who totally murdered his family several years prior. Who gives a fuck if there's no Lois Lane, Lex Luthor, or Jimmy Olsen? So what if Clark doesn't work as a reporter for a newspaper? It's a re-adaption; it doesn't have to be exactly like the original source material, so stop bagging on me and my vision! BEE-YOTCH!

<_<

 

[Bill Felix]

So, by this piece of commentary, it's totally cool for me to rewrite Superman a shellshocked war veteran that gets hit with a piece of kryptonite and gains super powers, fights a psychic murderer conducting experiments in the name of aliens and has a wild attraction to the alien princess named Barda who totally murdered his family several years prior. Who gives a fuck if there's no Lois Lane, Lex Luthor, or Jimmy Olsen? So what if Clark doesn't work as a reporter for a newspaper? It's a re-adaption; it doesn't have to be exactly like the original source material, so stop bagging on me and my vision! BEE-YOTCH!

<_<

That actually sounds better than the last three Superman movies. I would much rather watch that movie.

 

[goldenarms]

So, by this piece of commentary, it's totally cool for me to rewrite Superman a shellshocked war veteran that gets hit with a piece of kryptonite and gains super powers, fights a psychic murderer conducting experiments in the name of aliens and has a wild attraction to the alien princess named Barda who totally murdered his family several years prior. Who gives a fuck if there's no Lois Lane, Lex Luthor, or Jimmy Olsen? So what if Clark doesn't work as a reporter for a newspaper? It's a re-adaption; it doesn't have to be exactly like the original source material, so stop bagging on me and my vision! BEE-YOTCH!

? <_<

That actually sounds better than the last three Superman movies. I would much rather watch that movie.

I'd watch Superman III, if only for Richard Pryor, but... yeah, that actually does sound kind of cool, now that I think about it... Damn, now I gotta go fix my argument...

...I got it!

I don't know what all the hate for Bay is. I know I am going to get hardcore nerd flamed for this but I could care less. Are the Transformers movies the best movies ever made? No. Do they deserve every single award? No. But they are still entertaining and fun to watch. 1 was good. 2 was alright. 3 was good as well. But I don't understand why every nerd out there has to cry over his movies because they aren't exactly what they wanted it to be. "But he ruined the whole original story and left out many important characters!" Well since when is a re-adaptation ever exactly like the original source material? Hardly ever if at all. A bunch of nerds need to grow up. They are just movies meant for entertainment.

So, you're saying you'd rather have Halle Berry's Catwoman instead of Michelle Pfeiffer's?

 

[nick012000]

To be fair, apparently, in the original comic, the ooze that mutated the turtles was of alien origin, and the villainous aliens in question would up inspiring that brain-alien villain in the cartoon.

 

[Python453]

To be fair, apparently, in the original comic, the ooze that mutated the turtles was of alien origin, and the villainous aliens in question would up inspiring that brain-alien villain in the cartoon.

Yeah, but see there's one difference between that and this movie: the turtles themselves were not alien in origin. They were just mutants.

 

[goldenarms]

To be fair, apparently, in the original comic, the ooze that mutated the turtles was of alien origin, and the villainous aliens in question would up inspiring that brain-alien villain in the cartoon.

Yeah, but see there's one difference between that and this movie: the turtles themselves were not alien in origin. They were just mutants.

This.

And this reminds me of an argument that pops up on whether or not to give Ranma special powers in crossover/fusions. Some are against it specifically because claiming his incredible martial arts skills and strength being the product of a mutation or special power cheapen the character. I think it'd do the same for the Turtles if you went ahead and gave them an alien origin. It takes away the fantastic element of ordinary turtles being mutated into five-foot tall humanoids that are able to learn ninjutsu from a talking rat.

It goes from "incredible" to "eh" when the turtles are of alien origin -- aliens can do damn near anything they want, so it's not spectacular. In fact, it might have been in their genes the whole time, like Saiyans in the Dragon Ball series, so it lacks the wonder and awesome factor, and while that's something that might not be so important to "the big picture" but it makes the story more interesting for the consumer if we're dealing with the ordinary being imbued or thrust in the extraordinary. After all, stories about superpowered cops taking on terrorists aren't as intriguing as the Ordinary Joe cop taking on terrorists.

 

[bissek]

<a href='http://ffn.malletspace.net/?p=1057' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>An explanation of the logic behind Bay's decision.</a>

 

[Slyfer101]

Farewell, yet another memory of childhood.

Let us bow our heads in remembrance of better times.

<a href='http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b74s3FcrLjc' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Amazing Grace</a>

 

[mortalone]

To be honest, it's not making the turtles aliens that bothers me. It's that this unnecessary change reflects a complete disregard for the franchise. You just know that this is the kind of thing where if it is well-done it will have very little payoff and if it's poorly done it will suck horribly.

Unfortunately, I think that Michael Bay is pretty typical of the kind of person working in Hollywood these days.

 

[ragnarok1337]

I think the Nostalgia Critic put it best: Micheal Bay makes movies that are occasionally fun to watch, if abusive to whatever franchise he is working on at the moment. if you can accept that it has absolutely nothing to do with TMNT, then it might actually be a decent movie.

 

[Bill Felix]

I think the Nostalgia Critic put it best: Micheal Bay makes movies that are occasionally fun to watch, if abusive to whatever franchise he is working on at the moment. if you can accept that it has absolutely nothing to do with TMNT, then it might actually be a decent movie.

Transformers is the only franchise he's directed. It's harder to make a case against him for his produced works because most of them are forgettable remakes of old horror films (overall meh).

Michael Bay should just stop directing franchise related films. Not because of how 'abusive' they are to the source material (given Hollywood's love of crushing franchises this past decade, any fan should have learned to ignore what they hate by now), but because the Transformers movies were REALLY FUCKING BAD MOVIES. Much worse than his non-adaptation works.

 

[Ordo]

...Diabolical...

 

[mortalone]

The thing is, he won't stop. The Transformers movies were drawing close to ONE BILLION dollars each at the box office. Somehow it makes me very sad for the fate of this world that these are the types of people we share this planet with.

 

[RockLeeTheAwesome]

The thing is, he won't stop. The Transformers movies were drawing close to ONE BILLION dollars each at the box office. Somehow it makes me very sad for the fate of this world that these are the types of people we share this planet with.

The fact that this wasn't readily apparent to you with the way TV is nowadays is head scratching.

 

[Ordo]

Supposedly this is concept art for the Turtles in the film....I don't think this will be the final design, in fact I have doubts about it's authenticity, but will post it here just in case.

 

[Ordo]

<a href='http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/06/15/ninja-turtles-shut-down' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Pre-Production on Ninja Turtles halted</a>

 

[Ordo]

<a href='http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/08/28/bad-buzz-on-bays-ninja-turtles-script' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Ninja Turtle Script</a>

You won't like this....

in this version Casey Jones and April O'Neil are 18-year-olds and exes. The villain is one Colonel Schrader. The Foot isn't a ninja clan in this, but rather a black-clad special forces unit led by Schrader (caught on to the similar-sounding name yet?).

See more <a href='http://latino-review.com/2012/08/28/exclusive-bays-failed-ninja-turtles-script-review/' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>here</a>.

 

[WhiteKnightLeo]

<a href='http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/08/28/bad-buzz-on-bays-ninja-turtles-script' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Ninja Turtle Script</a>

You won't like this....

in this version Casey Jones and April O'Neil are 18-year-olds and exes. The villain is one Colonel Schrader. The Foot isn't a ninja clan in this, but rather a black-clad special forces unit led by Schrader (caught on to the similar-sounding name yet?).

See more <a href='http://latino-review.com/2012/08/28/exclusive-bays-failed-ninja-turtles-script-review/' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>here</a>.

.............Yeah, that sucks fucking shitballs.

 

[Mick]

<a href='http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/08/28/bad-buzz-on-bays-ninja-turtles-script' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Ninja Turtle Script</a>

You won't like this....

in this version Casey Jones and April O'Neil are 18-year-olds and exes. The villain is one Colonel Schrader. The Foot isn't a ninja clan in this, but rather a black-clad special forces unit led by Schrader (caught on to the similar-sounding name yet?).

See more <a href='http://latino-review.com/2012/08/28/exclusive-bays-failed-ninja-turtles-script-review/' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>here</a>.

.............Yeah, that sucks fucking shitballs.

<a href='http://www.shootfortheedit.com/forum/showthread.php?10567-Ninja-Turtles-Script' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>http://www.shootfortheedit.com/forum/showt...-Turtles-Script</a>

He's trying to claim that's nonsense. I wouldn't trust him either way though..

 

[goldenarms]

<a href='http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/08/28/bad-buzz-on-bays-ninja-turtles-script' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Ninja Turtle Script</a>

You won't like this....

in this version Casey Jones and April O'Neil are 18-year-olds and exes. The villain is one Colonel Schrader. The Foot isn't a ninja clan in this, but rather a black-clad special forces unit led by Schrader (caught on to the similar-sounding name yet?).

See more <a href='http://latino-review.com/2012/08/28/exclusive-bays-failed-ninja-turtles-script-review/' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>here</a>.

.............Yeah, that sucks fucking shitballs.

<a href='http://www.shootfortheedit.com/forum/showthread.php?10567-Ninja-Turtles-Script' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>http://www.shootfortheedit.com/forum/showt...-Turtles-Script</a>

He's trying to claim that's nonsense. I wouldn't trust him either way though..

You know, I had forgotten all about this until seeing the thread.

Reading Bay's forum shames me. I'm personally embarrassed for the fanboys slobbering all over Bay's knob whenever he says anything.

Especially when someone posts this:

Thanks for letting us know that it's canned...However, We both know it was announced that Bay and PD got hired in late 2010 by Paramount. Then remember that on of the earliest writers to get attached after this was Marcum and Holloway while Applebaum and Nemec were only attached since late 2011 and the date ON THE SCRIPT is January 2012 lol.

Reference points:

Paramount and Viacom gets the rights to TMNT in 2009: <a href='http://www.deadline.com/2009/10/nick...ights-for-60m/' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>http://www.deadline.com/2009/10/nick...ights-for-60m/</a>

Platinum Dunes gets attached in late 2010: <a href='http://www.deadline.com/2010/05/plat...tles-relaunch/' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>http://www.deadline.com/2010/05/plat...tles-relaunch/</a>


First set of Writers are hired: <a href='http://www.deadline.com/2010/08/para...big-franchise/' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>http://www.deadline.com/2010/08/para...big-franchise/</a>

Applebaum and Nemec are hired: <a href='http://www.deadline.com/2011/06/para...ninja-turtles/' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>http://www.deadline.com/2011/06/para...ninja-turtles/</a>

Also y'all should remember prior to it's time at Paramount the last writer mentioned to be attached was John Fusco.

I don't do this to disrespect Bay because I'm glad he addressed this but not EVERYTHING he says is true.

and someone responds with this:

Is this a courtroom? No.

Are you a DA? No.

Are we talking about a brutal crime or a terrorist attack? No.


We are talking about a movie about fighting turtles. So let's not blow this thing out of proportion. Judging by the way the Turtles fans have treated Bay I'm surprised that he's not posting only lies just to have fun with these people. Because after the nasty stuff they've said, they certainly don't deserve a serious response from Bay.

Bottom line - he said the script these fanboys whined about doesn't exist anymore. That's all you need to know.

Move on.

:no:

 

[LightningHunter]

What the fuck do you expect from a guy called "Bayhem"?

 

[goldenarms]

What the fuck do you expect from a guy called "Bayhem"?

I know, right?

 

[shinzero01]

<a href='http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/08/28/bad-buzz-on-bays-ninja-turtles-script' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Ninja Turtle Script</a>

You won't like this....

in this version Casey Jones and April O'Neil are 18-year-olds and exes. The villain is one Colonel Schrader. The Foot isn't a ninja clan in this, but rather a black-clad special forces unit led by Schrader (caught on to the similar-sounding name yet?).

See more <a href='http://latino-review.com/2012/08/28/exclusive-bays-failed-ninja-turtles-script-review/' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>here</a>.

.............Yeah, that sucks fucking shitballs.

<a href='http://www.shootfortheedit.com/forum/showthread.php?10567-Ninja-Turtles-Script' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>http://www.shootfortheedit.com/forum/showt...-Turtles-Script</a>

He's trying to claim that's nonsense. I wouldn't trust him either way though..

You know, I had forgotten all about this until seeing the thread.

Reading Bay's forum shames me. I'm personally embarrassed for the fanboys slobbering all over Bay's knob whenever he says anything.

Especially when someone posts this:

Thanks for letting us know that it's canned...However, We both know it was announced that Bay and PD got hired in late 2010 by Paramount. Then remember that on of the earliest writers to get attached after this was Marcum and Holloway while Applebaum and Nemec were only attached since late 2011 and the date ON THE SCRIPT is January 2012 lol.

Reference points:

Paramount and Viacom gets the rights to TMNT in 2009: <a href='http://www.deadline.com/2009/10/nick...ights-for-60m/' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>http://www.deadline.com/2009/10/nick...ights-for-60m/</a>

Platinum Dunes gets attached in late 2010: <a href='http://www.deadline.com/2010/05/plat...tles-relaunch/' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>http://www.deadline.com/2010/05/plat...tles-relaunch/</a>


First set of Writers are hired: <a href='http://www.deadline.com/2010/08/para...big-franchise/' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>http://www.deadline.com/2010/08/para...big-franchise/</a>

Applebaum and Nemec are hired: <a href='http://www.deadline.com/2011/06/para...ninja-turtles/' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>http://www.deadline.com/2011/06/para...ninja-turtles/</a>

Also y'all should remember prior to it's time at Paramount the last writer mentioned to be attached was John Fusco.

I don't do this to disrespect Bay because I'm glad he addressed this but not EVERYTHING he says is true.

and someone responds with this:

Is this a courtroom? No.

Are you a DA? No.

Are we talking about a brutal crime or a terrorist attack? No.


We are talking about a movie about fighting turtles. So let's not blow this thing out of proportion. Judging by the way the Turtles fans have treated Bay I'm surprised that he's not posting only lies just to have fun with these people. Because after the nasty stuff they've said, they certainly don't deserve a serious response from Bay.

Bottom line - he said the script these fanboys whined about doesn't exist anymore. That's all you need to know.

Move on.

:no:

But we ARE talking about a brutal crime and terrorist attack. He's raping our childhood heroes like he's Spielberg and Lucas. I barely let it slide with Transformers and that was only because some good figures came out of it.


On a side note that has nothing to do with Bay at all: I'm still kinda pissed Hasbro never got around to making that movie Arcee-Chromia-Elita1 gestalt figure they promised and made Elita 1 a recolor instead of something unique to complete the combination. I've got 2 robots that link in an admittedly odd way and a third that is just a repaint.

Its bad enough we got a small glimpse of it in the comics that occur between the films.