Naruto Making Uzumaki (rewrite) Chapter 5b (Was Chapter 6)
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RE: Making Uzumaki (rewrite) Chapter 6
He might have had the chains anyway, its just he was always stuck in that wheelchair of his.
I will say that its actually interesting that Uzumaki have those chains that are so similar to the ones rinnegan creates. We know Uzumaki are apparently descended from the younger son and from the Sage. Maybe the Uzumaki chains and the rinnegan chains are the same thing, and the Uzumaki managed to somehow inherit the powers of one of the rinnegan paths.
The flashback scene with Itachi and Shisui especially is hilarious.
Shisui is just: "here, let me give you my eye" and then just rips out his own(!) eye out of his head with his fingers like its no big deal. Maybe the Uchiha have some jutsu that causes their eyes to pop out for easy exchange. Plug-and-eye so to speak.
He might have had the chains anyway, its just he was always stuck in that wheelchair of his.
I will say that its actually interesting that Uzumaki have those chains that are so similar to the ones rinnegan creates. We know Uzumaki are apparently descended from the younger son and from the Sage. Maybe the Uzumaki chains and the rinnegan chains are the same thing, and the Uzumaki managed to somehow inherit the powers of one of the rinnegan paths.
The flashback scene with Itachi and Shisui especially is hilarious.
Shisui is just: "here, let me give you my eye" and then just rips out his own(!) eye out of his head with his fingers like its no big deal. Maybe the Uchiha have some jutsu that causes their eyes to pop out for easy exchange. Plug-and-eye so to speak.
RE: Making Uzumaki (rewrite) Chapter 6
Kyubi is a chakra being. He is his power. The Creation of All Things Jutsu is what permitted the Sage to split the Juubi and actually turn the "cuttings" into entirely new beings.
Going to be a bit dark too
Yes I am.
Naruto never had anyone to show him how to use them or even knew they existed. Karin for all of her crazy was a student of Orochi "I Heart Bloodlines" Maru. Of course she was taught to use them!
Kyubi is a chakra being. He is his power. The Creation of All Things Jutsu is what permitted the Sage to split the Juubi and actually turn the "cuttings" into entirely new beings.
Going to be a bit dark too
Yes I am.
Naruto never had anyone to show him how to use them or even knew they existed. Karin for all of her crazy was a student of Orochi "I Heart Bloodlines" Maru. Of course she was taught to use them!
RE: Making Uzumaki (rewrite) Chapter 6
I dunno, it seems there should be somekind of core/soul to Kyuubi. I mean when Kyuubi fires a bijuudama for example, thats "his power" separated from the main body. Does that mean the bijuudama is sentient and aware? No.
Or a better example. When Naruto fights Kyuubi, he manages to forcibly separate a part of Kyuubis power from him, and store that power in a separate part of his mindscape (thats the KCM). Thats essentially the same thing that Minato did. And yet, the ball of chakra that powered Narutos KCM (which you can see here: http://www.mangapanda.com/93-56332-7/naruto/chapter-505.html ) did not become sentient.
Ohwell, its canon that Minato made another Kyuubi and this is not really on topic anyway.
Orochimaru would not know how to use the chains. Whats more, he seems surprised when Karin uses them, implying it was somehow instinctive on her part with Sasuke dying and she had never used them before. Which makes sense considering she did not use them against Hachibi for example.
Naruto was also told of the existence of the chains after gaining KCM, though admittedly that was a very short time ago in canon-time.
I dunno, it seems there should be somekind of core/soul to Kyuubi. I mean when Kyuubi fires a bijuudama for example, thats "his power" separated from the main body. Does that mean the bijuudama is sentient and aware? No.
Or a better example. When Naruto fights Kyuubi, he manages to forcibly separate a part of Kyuubis power from him, and store that power in a separate part of his mindscape (thats the KCM). Thats essentially the same thing that Minato did. And yet, the ball of chakra that powered Narutos KCM (which you can see here: http://www.mangapanda.com/93-56332-7/naruto/chapter-505.html ) did not become sentient.
Ohwell, its canon that Minato made another Kyuubi and this is not really on topic anyway.
Orochimaru would not know how to use the chains. Whats more, he seems surprised when Karin uses them, implying it was somehow instinctive on her part with Sasuke dying and she had never used them before. Which makes sense considering she did not use them against Hachibi for example.
Naruto was also told of the existence of the chains after gaining KCM, though admittedly that was a very short time ago in canon-time.
RE: Making Uzumaki (rewrite) Chapter 6
Well for some connecting tissue, you already had Kakashi confronted over whether or not Naruto is of the Uzumaki. You could have a continuation of that conversation as a lead in to what will happen next. Perhaps Kakashi asks why Tsunami asked that, and she points out the near royal status that affords Naruto if it's true. The status he's already getting an inkling of from the townsfolk.
Well for some connecting tissue, you already had Kakashi confronted over whether or not Naruto is of the Uzumaki. You could have a continuation of that conversation as a lead in to what will happen next. Perhaps Kakashi asks why Tsunami asked that, and she points out the near royal status that affords Naruto if it's true. The status he's already getting an inkling of from the townsfolk.
RE: Making Uzumaki (rewrite) Chapter 6
True, but if there was an Uzumaki Temple in Kohoha, it implies that there should have also been at least a small Uzumaki Clan Compound surrounding that Temple which Naruto, as the only Konoha-born Uzumaki and de-facto Clan Head, is the rightful owner of. It gives him more land to work with away from his apartment but still within Konoha.
True, but if there was an Uzumaki Temple in Kohoha, it implies that there should have also been at least a small Uzumaki Clan Compound surrounding that Temple which Naruto, as the only Konoha-born Uzumaki and de-facto Clan Head, is the rightful owner of. It gives him more land to work with away from his apartment but still within Konoha.
RE: Making Uzumaki (rewrite) Chapter 6
Ok, near royal wasn't the best wording. I was trying to point out that earlier scenes in the story here show Naruto being treated with reverence. I was making comparisons that aren't entirely accurate, but should be fairly close to describing the awe that Naruto's presence in the area invoked.
Ok, near royal wasn't the best wording. I was trying to point out that earlier scenes in the story here show Naruto being treated with reverence. I was making comparisons that aren't entirely accurate, but should be fairly close to describing the awe that Naruto's presence in the area invoked.
RE: Making Uzumaki (rewrite) Chapter 6
Hmm. I hope you arent planning on exaggerating Narutos Uzumaki status?
You should remember that Uzushiogakure was destroyed quite a while ago. (to quote Kushina "My country is long gone"). Odds are that only the old people remember its existence, and people like Tsunami probably only knew it from stories heard from their parents.
Furthermore, Uzushiogakure was a shinobi village so its unlikely that Wave village would have had massively close connection to Uzushiogakure. So while Naruto being Uzumaki might impress people to an extent, I think the idea that he would be considered "royalty" or something due to his Uzumaki heritage is going a bit too far.
I would infact say that the fact he was instrumental in saving the place and the resulting fame as a hero should and would far surpass the fact that he is an Uzumaki.
Basically, I think having people think something like "One of the last Uzumaki came to save us, how fitting" would be great. But having them think "An Uzumaki has returned! He is royalty! Lets make him a KING!" would be going way too far in my view.
So what I am trying to say is that you should not go overboard with Uzumaki worship here. Uzushiogakure has been destroyed for too long, and as a shinobi village the contact between the two villages was probably mostly trade and such, rather than Uzushiogakure ruling Wave or anything like that.
Psyckosama said:
The Uzumaki were from Uzushiogakure no Sato in the tiny island nation of Uzu no Kuni.
There's a theme there and its not a stretch to connect those dots...
There's a theme there and its not a stretch to connect those dots...
You should remember that Uzushiogakure was destroyed quite a while ago. (to quote Kushina "My country is long gone"). Odds are that only the old people remember its existence, and people like Tsunami probably only knew it from stories heard from their parents.
Furthermore, Uzushiogakure was a shinobi village so its unlikely that Wave village would have had massively close connection to Uzushiogakure. So while Naruto being Uzumaki might impress people to an extent, I think the idea that he would be considered "royalty" or something due to his Uzumaki heritage is going a bit too far.
I would infact say that the fact he was instrumental in saving the place and the resulting fame as a hero should and would far surpass the fact that he is an Uzumaki.
Basically, I think having people think something like "One of the last Uzumaki came to save us, how fitting" would be great. But having them think "An Uzumaki has returned! He is royalty! Lets make him a KING!" would be going way too far in my view.
So what I am trying to say is that you should not go overboard with Uzumaki worship here. Uzushiogakure has been destroyed for too long, and as a shinobi village the contact between the two villages was probably mostly trade and such, rather than Uzushiogakure ruling Wave or anything like that.
RE: Making Uzumaki (rewrite) Chapter 6
Hmm. I hope you arent planning on exaggerating Narutos Uzumaki status?
You should remember that Uzushiogakure was destroyed quite a while ago. (to quote Kushina "My country is long gone"). Odds are that only the old people remember its existence, and people like Tsunami probably only knew it from stories heard from their parents.
Furthermore, Uzushiogakure was a shinobi village so its unlikely that Wave village would have had massively close connection to Uzushiogakure. So while Naruto being Uzumaki might impress people to an extent, I think the idea that he would be considered "royalty" or something due to his Uzumaki heritage is going a bit too far.
I would infact say that the fact he was instrumental in saving the place and the resulting fame as a hero should and would far surpass the fact that he is an Uzumaki.
Basically, I think having people think something like "One of the last Uzumaki came to save us, how fitting" would be great. But having them think "An Uzumaki has returned! He is royalty! Lets make him a KING!" would be going way too far in my view.
So what I am trying to say is that you should not go overboard with Uzumaki worship here. Uzushiogakure has been destroyed for too long, and as a shinobi village the contact between the two villages was probably mostly trade and such, rather than Uzushiogakure ruling Wave or anything like that.
I agree. Unless they were closely connected to Uzu and their relationship was extremely beneficial for Wave, I don't see a reason for the villagers to worship him.
datakim said:
Psyckosama said:
The Uzumaki were from Uzushiogakure no Sato in the tiny island nation of Uzu no Kuni.
There's a theme there and its not a stretch to connect those dots...
There's a theme there and its not a stretch to connect those dots...
You should remember that Uzushiogakure was destroyed quite a while ago. (to quote Kushina "My country is long gone"). Odds are that only the old people remember its existence, and people like Tsunami probably only knew it from stories heard from their parents.
Furthermore, Uzushiogakure was a shinobi village so its unlikely that Wave village would have had massively close connection to Uzushiogakure. So while Naruto being Uzumaki might impress people to an extent, I think the idea that he would be considered "royalty" or something due to his Uzumaki heritage is going a bit too far.
I would infact say that the fact he was instrumental in saving the place and the resulting fame as a hero should and would far surpass the fact that he is an Uzumaki.
Basically, I think having people think something like "One of the last Uzumaki came to save us, how fitting" would be great. But having them think "An Uzumaki has returned! He is royalty! Lets make him a KING!" would be going way too far in my view.
So what I am trying to say is that you should not go overboard with Uzumaki worship here. Uzushiogakure has been destroyed for too long, and as a shinobi village the contact between the two villages was probably mostly trade and such, rather than Uzushiogakure ruling Wave or anything like that.
RE: Making Uzumaki (rewrite) Chapter 6
The villagers already revere him for what he did then and there at the bridge. Finding out that he had blood ties to a Hidden Village that was once considered a big enough threat that it was wiped out due to the fear of other villages only adds to his mystique. Especially if the Uzumaki were essentially a local equivalent to noble clans like the Uchiha or the Hyuuga. And when you look at the maps that have been shown Whirlpool Country and Uzushiogakure were the closest geographically to Wave by far so it's not a stretch to say many people in Wave might be descended from civilian refugees from Uzu.
The villagers already revere him for what he did then and there at the bridge. Finding out that he had blood ties to a Hidden Village that was once considered a big enough threat that it was wiped out due to the fear of other villages only adds to his mystique. Especially if the Uzumaki were essentially a local equivalent to noble clans like the Uchiha or the Hyuuga. And when you look at the maps that have been shown Whirlpool Country and Uzushiogakure were the closest geographically to Wave by far so it's not a stretch to say many people in Wave might be descended from civilian refugees from Uzu.
RE: Making Uzumaki (rewrite) Chapter 6
I wouldn't think they'd be any in wave. If the village was enough of a threat to warrant it's complete destruction, I'm willing to bet that the villages responsible for it would ensure that some of their forces would attempt to pick off or capture any surviving members.
Like it or not, Wave is too close to Uzu to not be watched for a period after Uzu's destruction and too weak to protect any refugees.
I wouldn't think they'd be any in wave. If the village was enough of a threat to warrant it's complete destruction, I'm willing to bet that the villages responsible for it would ensure that some of their forces would attempt to pick off or capture any surviving members.
Like it or not, Wave is too close to Uzu to not be watched for a period after Uzu's destruction and too weak to protect any refugees.