My Little Pony: FIM

seitora

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Honestly, I would expect Season 1 to make the least sense with characterisation, simply because they were all produced about the same time with no prior episodes for reference in any case.


EDIT: Also some odd syndication order, though I don't know if all the episodes were completed before airing the first one or not. For example, Running of the Leaves should have been aired BEFORE Winter Wrap-Up, unless Equestria has some sort of bizarro reverse-season order where fall comes right after winter as opposed to right before it.
 

seitora

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Watched Feeling Pinkie Keen

Some of these episodes are weirdly part-consistent. One of Fluttershy's lines harkens back to the episode with that dragon, but she can't just go and pick up Twilight from the other side of the ravine even though she did exactly that in the second episode?
 

akun50

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seitora said:
Watched Feeling Pinkie Keen

Some of these episodes are weirdly part-consistent. One of Fluttershy's lines harkens back to the episode with that dragon, but she can't just go and pick up Twilight from the other side of the ravine even though she did exactly that in the second episode?
Fluttershy's physical strength seems to vary as much as her wing strength, though my guess is a lot of it is heavily based on her self esteem. If she's in a panic to save someone or just pissed right the fuck off, she gets the adrenaline rush that everyone does and gets a strength boost.

And don't forget that she was helping Rainbow Dash in the second episode, and did make the comment that she usually doesn't carry things much heavier than a baby bunny. She did almost drop Twilight as well (my guess would be the adrenaline was wearing off).

You'll also note she struggled with locking up her wings out of fear during the dragon episode.
But she WAS pulling a cart earlier in the Hydra episode. I have to wonder what the weight on that was if she's able to pull that, because it CERTAINLY isn't aerodynamic.

As for the episode order, yeah, they have weird Takahashi-esque seasons throughout.
 

seitora

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Up to The Show Stoppers.

Again, there's that sort of weird semi-consistency here where Snips and Snails magic act are seemingly inspired by Trixie from Boast Busters (she never did any rabbit in the hat stuff or anything but same principle), but other things seem to be handwaved away like the CMC having super-loud voices every time they cheer from just one episode prior.

They really screwed up with the episode order with the middle part of the season. They have Cutie Mark Crusader episodes as episodes 12, 17 and 18. Meanwhile, they have Rarity episodes in 14 and 19, but then she's the deuteragonist in episode 16, and assumedly co-main of episode 20. They should have spaced those out a bit more.
 

seitora

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Finished watching Season 1

While none of the cast are evil or anything, Rarity and Twilight stick out to me as being just plain bitches on occasion. The other ponies have their own moments but nothing too major.
 

autobot314

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Thought on the most recent episode:
So that's who Moondancer is! She's basically a clone of Twilight. Which calls into question Spike's implied crush on her way back in season one. Also, look closely at the scene where they're dining together. Look at the left corner. Doesn't that mane look familiar?

 

seitora

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autobot314 said:
Thought on the most recent episode:
So that's who Moondancer is! She's basically a clone of Twilight. Which calls into question Spike's implied crush on her way back in season one. Also, look closely at the scene where they're dining together. Look at the left corner. Doesn't that mane look familiar?

Maybe Spike just has a thing for nerdy girls as well but Twilight is too much of a sister/mom for him?
 

Ordo

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seitora said:
autobot314 said:
Thought on the most recent episode:
So that's who Moondancer is! She's basically a clone of Twilight. Which calls into question Spike's implied crush on her way back in season one. Also, look closely at the scene where they're dining together. Look at the left corner. Doesn't that mane look familiar?

Maybe Spike just has a thing for nerdy girls as well but Twilight is too much of a sister/mom for him?
Soooooo.....Spike might secretly be a mother/siscon....and dealt with it by going for the next best thing.....Touta reborn?
 

seitora

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Watched the first four eps of Season 2 (Return of Harmony 1 +2 , Lesson Zero, Luna Eclipsed)

Discord is awesome troll, Luna cool princess, Twilight's got mental problems
 

AJ_Katon

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Glimmervoid said:
So who are people's favourite youtube reviewers?

Silver Quill is the best (obviously). His smooth, respectful style is just great.
Not really a brony but it's a tie between Joshscorcher and Silver Quill.
 

seitora

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Finished up to episode 9 of Season 2, Sweet and Elite. I saw Blueblood standing next to Rarity while she christens a ship. What an incredibly bizarre background cameo given the events of The Best Night Ever.

Mysterious Mare Do Well was a really weak episode especially since it seems Twilight learned nothing from Lesson Zero, and Ponyville seems to go through more disasters on a daily basis than Nerima.

Cutie Pox was enjoyable, May the Best Pet Win not so much.

As for Sisterhooves Social and Sweet and Elite, Rarity is a really easy pony to write an Aesop episode around. I just kind of get this sinking suspicion that she's going to be flanderised multiple times with her character development reset every time an episode revolving around her gets made so that she learns something new by the end. Sweet and Elite, though? Man, you'd think the Mane 6 would learn after The Best Night Ever.

On the note of Rarity, it's kind of nifty to realise that each of the Mane 6 have their own 'walking' style (asides from Rainbow Dash who rarely walks). Pinkie does a lot of straight hopping, Twilight is more a slow, casual canter, Applejack is more regular trotting and Rarity is more of a quick, even trot as she does multiple times in Sweet and Elite.

Also, Pinky's party cannon? If an official MLP game ever gets made that isn't freemium mobile crap, that should be the OP weapon.
 

seitora

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Secret of my Excess was kind of an 'eh' episode. Overall plot was neat, just something was really lacking. It feels sorta like plot device that Spike literally can't be meaningfully selfish or else he becomes a big dragon.

Hearth's Warming Eve was pretty cool. Fluttershy, Rainbow and Pinkie all make nifty actors. I want a gif image of Fluttershy hiding in a box now.

Family Appreciation Day I think hits home for a lot of people, not even with grandparents embarrassing them but just with disconnect between two different generations. That said, damn Granny Smith was a badass. Also, this is the second Apple Bloom episode this season along with what was arguably an episode as the protag and another as the deuteragonist last season (Call of the Cutie and Bridle Gossip). When does Scootaloo get her own episode?!

Baby Cakes actually nicely characterises Pinkie Pie (or is it Whitie Piegiven the amount of flour that ends up on her in this episode?!) as something beyond comic relief. The minute-and-a-bit genre shift to horror halfway through was a bit wtf though.
 

seitora

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I actually got into most of Season 3, but I won't do my thoughts all at once.

The Last Roundup is iffy. I can see Applejack being prideful enough to act the way she does in this episode, but she takes it to a ridiculous extreme that I would expect more out of Rainbow Dash, refusing to tell her friends after they hunt her down until after a comical chase sequence. Honestly, though, given her letter at the start, I would expect at least one of her friends to have clued in on why she was staying away from Ponyville, it was that obvious. Of course, part of it is Mayor Mare's fault, given it seems that she decided that AJ was going to contribute her winnings to fixing Town Hall (at least, the way she words her thanking AJ)? The Pegasus Formerly Known as Derpy also speaks for the first time in this episode, a major step-up from her cute poking-head-out-the-curtain act in Hearth's Warming Eve, and the initial voice-acting and lines caused a controversy. I have to actually agree that the original voicing was over-the-top listening to it (that, and the redone voice-acting is soooooooo cute!) Also, when Pinkie Pie talks about candy, it's barely noticeable but Big Macintosh is licking his lips. Big Mac for best stallion.

The Super Speedy Cider Squeezy 6000. This episode was so, so good, with a terrific musical sequence, and then they blew the ending. There was no real reconciliation of traditional ways and modern techniques, no attempt at an Aesop (I wonder if the writer realised this and lampshaded it with Applejack's letter to Celestia), nothing. The Flim Flam Brothers had a perfectly good machine that was far faster than the Sweet Apple Acres family, they just pushed it too hard at the end to stay ahead and reduced quality, and it could have been a combined lesson learned.

Read It and Weep. Now this is like The Last Roundup as far as pride goes, and it's over a pony who I an actually see as going to extreme actions over her pride. I can see why Rainbow Dash doesn't like reading, though, since she apparently took like two or three days, and stayed up all night at least once to read through a single adventure novel, and didn't finish it! The average person can read something like 250-300 words a minute, and I know I can sustain 500-600 words a minute reading pulp fiction (the upper limit for most prolific readers), so even a big book shouldn't have taken more than a little over a day of solid reading. The Solid Snake-esque sequence, however, is amazing, and the whole grainy filter they put on the Daring Doo scenes is ingenious.

Hearts and Hooves Day. It took a little for me to warm up to the Cutie Mark Crusaders, but their antics are so adorable it's hard not to like 'em. It also features Big Macintosh who even though he's mainly in the background I already have in my head as Best (Male) Pony with all his "Eeyup"s and "Ee-nope"s and the fact that in the fourth episode of Season 1, the first Applejack-centric one, AJ doesn't even get half the orchard done before the ending and she's downright tuckered, meaning that Big Mac must be doing most of that work on an annual basis. What a beast! But anyways, the CMC have another nice song, then they get into silly filly antics all episode long, and Twilight just decides to give them a book right after talking about a love potion. The only thing that keeps Twilight so far from being an outright complete Sue is her neurosis and holding the idiot ball at times like this.
 

akun50

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seitora said:
I want a gif image of Fluttershy hiding in a box now.
Found these on Derpibooru:


Also, Flufflepuff did a thing.
[video=youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20doefeSbek[/video]
It amused me.
 

seitora

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akun50 said:
seitora said:
I want a gif image of Fluttershy hiding in a box now.
Found these on Derpibooru:
All the internets!


Anyways, next batch of episodes I'll give my thoughts on, I guess...


A Friend In Deed. Pinky really doesn't come off too well. Personal space much, Pinkie? However, there's another amazing musical sequence which includes all the ponies doing parkour jumping across rooftops. LOVE IT!

Putting Your Hoof Down. Angel Bunny is literally the most evil thing on the show so far. At least the other villains haven't singled out Fluttershy to bully her, and only Gilda I think has yet made her actually cry, but Angel Bunny bullies her on a daily basis! I enjoyed the overall plot, but there's one scene that's amazing IMO, and that's the one where Fluttershy bullies Rarity and Pinkie Pie. Not only does she make them cry, but I think she's flying for the entire scene! That's a rather subtle touch since Flutters nearly always stays on the ground, while Rainbow Dash is normally airborne, despite both of them being pegasi, so the instant Fluttershy gets more assertive she starts flying more.

It's About Time. You know, I honestly think after going through more than the first three seasons that Twilight is very close to a canon Sue. The only thing that prevents this from being completely so is her neurosis, which we see bits of in Season 1, but is perfectly encapsulated between Lesson Zero and now this episode, as well as the first Crystal Empire episode. It's a shame that the only thing we really get developmentally after this is in the second-last episode of Season 3 where she's shown to do breathing exercises whenever she gets stressed, and it's not even verbally mentioned. Future!Twilight's appearance is a nice little callout to some of those stealth games, especially MGS. Also, Fluttershy managing to tame freaking Cerberus? Badass.

Dragon Quest. Let's ignore Spike for a minute here. When Rainbow Dash attempts to get Fluttershy out of her house, Fluttershy manages to completely wreck Rainbow Dash in a one-two-PAWNCH maneuver. Holy shit, between this and last episode are we sure it's Rainbow Dash who's the one with a black belt, and Twilight Sparkle the one who will become super-pony? This was a decent episode. Too bad it's the last decent Spike episode for a while.
 

seitora

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I wrote a Pony fic. You can see it here


Hurricane Fluttershy, the only level -1 hurricane ever. Again, the series is weirdly consistent at times and then inconsistent at other. This is one of the latter where Fluttershy doesn't retain the slight bump in assertiveness she had from the end of Putting Your Hoof Down, but crying Fluttershy is always too cuuuuute!

In Ponyville Confidential, we get another CMC episode, and the CMC seem to get more lovable with every episode, even as their antics get more and more destructive. First they dose Big Mac and Cheerilee with a love poison, now they're running a gossip column that causes no small amount of heartbreak. DT gets her comeuppance at the end of the episode, as always, but man, will this show ever actually give her an episode where she finally becomes nicer permanently? Doubtful. Also, Celestia eating cake.

MMMystery on the Friendship Express, never mind the Sherlock Holmes and Agatha Christie references, this episode has something that really throws you off if you view too many episodes close together, and that's that the train going to Canterlot is apparently an overnight trip when every other time it only seems to be a few hours at the most since Ponyville is not quite but just about a suburb of Canterlot. Hell, in the next season a train ride all the way up to the Crystal Empire is treated as a day trip! That said, this was a fun episode, and while I expected two of the ponies to do the deed due to their poor impulse control throughout the show (and had deduced as much from the events in the episode prior to the reveal), the third one was a surprise!

A Canterlot Wedding episodes. First off, Daniel Ingram is a genius. This Day Aria might just be the best song in the series, period, and it comes at the perfect time.

It's too bad I knew roughly what the plot was behind the two-parter going in, because watching it blind must have been genuinely shocking. It doesn't even have to butcher the characters too much, as all of them have already been shown to lose their senses a bit when coming to high society. Faux Cadance manages to turn the rest of the Mane 6 against Twilight perfectly by making them her bridesmaids. Really, the only thing that is out of place is that the thing keeping Twilight from being a Canon Sue isn't her neurosis for once, but her being a complete bitch at the end of the first part.

Chrysalis is pretty compelling as fanfic fuel for a returning villain, given she actually manages to beat Celestia, overruns Canterlot, and the only thing that beats her is deus ex machina even worse than the Elements of Harmony.

The only downside to the two-parter that can't be chalked up to this being a kid's show (that is, Queen Chrysalis' plan was mostly good but should have killed Cadance and Twilight instead of just leaving them trapped in the caverns) is Shining Armor's accent. Ho. Lee. Shit. It's so hard to take him seriously when I want to laugh every time I hear it.
 

akun50

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Originally posted this in the wrong thread, WHOOPS!

Haven't finished watching it, but Ponies: Anthology 5 has been live as of 8/8/2015. For those who aren't subscribed:
[video=youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0LgI6nF0rM[/video]
Aside from the Fart skit and a few of the rap songs (I'm not a fan of most rap), I liked it. I'd give it a 4.2 out of 5.
 

seitora

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One wonders if this will make sense at all in context. Sunset Shimmer as a welder?! This doesn't seem like an interschool competition anymore, unless Canterlot High is suddenly a technical college.

Fluttershy has a huge visual pun here, though - 'butterfly style' is the name of a hockey goaltending style which involves dropping down a lot and using the goalpads as a defense, and what else would she have on her pads :p?




Having watched Amending Fences, Moondancer is great and all, but Minuette is like, on my top-tier of ponies as a less-crazy Pinkie Pie who's still rad. Those glasses were awesome.


(perhaps we should start a separate image thread before I shit this thread up with images?)
 

Ordo

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