Naruto Naruto/Gold Diggers Xover (No GD Chars)

[GaelicDragon]

As funny as that would be, this idea has (at least partially) already been claimed by Shinji the good sharer.

And my idea is a lot different from that (look at the title, where it says No GD Chars)

No, I think this is going to be a Naru/Pride pairing ^^, the nice way of saying Harem in were-creature Fanfics

You know, the only thing about someone posting an idea is that as long as you add a note about it, the author doesn't have much control over it. Especially since Shinji has so many ideas/concepts.

Anyways, just because Shinji was the first one to post a basic concept involving Naruto/GD crossover doesn't mean he owns any similar ideas. Change the situation slightly and its original. Write a Naruto/GD story first and all Shinji's complaining is taken as worth a grain of salt.

 

[FH_Meta]

Huuuum...I need some precision, I payed BoF 3, 4 and 5 but only in french, so if you could help me with the translation of the species name, I would be thankful.

So, I supose the Grassruner are the half-canine characters, woren obviously are the half feline ones, we have the dragon race (wich I never remeber the official name) and their counterpart lead by Myria whose Garr is a member in BoF 3, I also know Manillo of the fishmen and there was some sort of half human-monkey NPC in BoF 3 that I don't know the name of...ah yes, and of course the windians, the bird-men.

Now, I have another specie I absolutly don't know the name of : the half-rabbit people, like for example Momo, dif someone know their name, please, don't hesitate to share.

Did I miss anyone ?

Momo is a Grassrunner too. Grassrunners aren't just dog-men, it includes hares, bunnies and other typical grassland creatures.

The Dragon race and the half snake race that Myria and Deis belong to are both Endless.

Garr and his Guardian ilk used to be human, but were modified by magic to serve as Myria's swords.

Also, you forgot the frog people Jean belongs to, and the bull-like people Ox belongs to as well. But the latter two are never explicitly named.

EDIT: Oh, and Ursula is a foxwoman, for the record.

If I remember correctly, (and can find the link later to back this up) the Creeping Clan is what Eraku Hope de Tapeta (Jean) belongs to and Ox belongs to the Iron Ogre Clan.

I'll edit this post once I can find the link that I got that from for now, I'm just using my conversion notes.

Ok, I found the link. I have no idea how accurate Dragon-Tear.net is, but I used it.

 

[GenocideHeart]

If I remember correctly, (and can find the link later to back this up) the Creeping Clan is what Eraku Hope de Tapeta (Jean) belongs to and Ox belongs to the Iron Ogre Clan.

I'll edit this post once I can find the link that I got that from for now, I'm just using my conversion notes.

Wikipedia said that too, IIRC.

However, the 'Momo is a Grassrunner' bit was specifically stated by Capcom of Japan.

 

[FH_Meta]

Well, either the place I got the translations of the instruction booklets was lazy or they have invaded Wikipedia.

 

[rootathell]

hmm.....If Naruto is a Werecheetah, anyone did care for do the spell what nullifies the thrall infection what would happen if he scratchs or bites anyone?....

I think the Yondaime was smart enough to either do the ritual as Naruto was born or the Kyuubi seal took care of that

That ritual, last I checked, took several hours... and Naruto was born smack in the middle of the Kyuubi attack. There was no time to perform it, and I don't buy for a moment that the Shiki Fuujin can conveniently block something completely different.

That particular plothole cannot be resolved without absolutely ludicrous explanations, and is the one reason why I don't recommend using the Gold Digger variety of lycanthropes.

Maybe the seal was just the 'quick fix' until his heritage comes forth, then Sarutobi has to do the rital with instructions left by the Yondaime, or someone has to be called in.

or the Yondaime left a medailion that keeps the thrall effect in check, which would be hilarious if he lost it during battle and made an enemy his loyal servant ^^

 

[GenocideHeart]

Maybe the seal was just the 'quick fix' until his heritage comes forth, then Sarutobi has to do the rital with instructions left by the Yondaime, or someone has to be called in.

or the Yondaime left a medailion that keeps the thrall effect in check, which would be hilarious if he lost it during battle and made an enemy his loyal servant ^^

I *really* don't recommend these solutions. One, the Shiki Fuujin is meant to be a suicide sealing technique, and that's all it is, so that possibility is out.

And if an enchanted medallion to keep the effect in check was possible to make, why has it not been made yet in GD? There's plenty of COMPETENT mages in it to do that, and ou'd think someone'd have tried, at least... but no, not a peep. Which IMHO, means it's just not possible.

Unless you want to risk future events to make the fic crumble, I'd suggest not messing with Gold Diggers canon.

 

[zeebee1]

Rootahell mentioned a second massacre. So it sounds like this exists in the future of the GD universe. It could be that since the rebirth of the were cheetah race was through Brittany that the thrall effect may have been magically removed from her and her descendants.

 

[GenocideHeart]

Rootahell mentioned a second massacre. So it sounds like this exists in the future of the GD universe. It could be that since the rebirth of the were cheetah race was through Brittany that the thrall effect may have been magically removed from her and her descendants.

That does not explain the complete lack of actual magic from the ninja world, though... unless it's been so many millennia that magic was lost. And in that case, I'd imagine that the removal would become ineffective over time, since it's an inherent ability of the were-races.

In essence, while I like he idea, it's too fragile to make a serious fic of it.

 

[Matdeception]

Meh, Genocide, you're taking the difficulty with the Infliction ability way to far.

Yes, I understand you like the Woren idea better then the GD idea, you happen to be the main enthuasiast for the idea, but really, it's not as big a deal as you seem to be implying.

Now, the reason there is no 'such amulet' in GD is because every mage and their mother can ward, even the Werewolves living on Earth can ward. It's seriously not a hard thing to have done.

Now in the Narutoverse it would be a little bit harder, no doubt, but I seriously doubt it would be as hard as you seem to implicate. Sure, the Death God sealing technique isn't it, and I'd laugh if some one said so, but just suggesting it seems like an attempt to put to detail a warding technique that just doesn't need it.

Now, I can see the Yondaime performing the warding just as soon as Naruto comes out, but given the time constraints with Kyuubi and the like, I'll grant it's feasible he wouldn't have the time. However, I sincerely doubt Sarutobi didn't know Arashi was a were-cheetah, or about the *basics* of his kind, and make no mistake, the ability to inflict is the most *feared* aspect of most Were-creatures, everyone knows who has even a cursory knowledge of were-creatures knows about it.

For Simplicity sake Sarutobi could seal the ability to inflict. Simple enough explanation that doesn't require a convulting story point. I really fail to see the problem with using GD style Were-creatures (Cause thats all I'm seeing is wanted for this particular cross).

Meh. I'm more a fan of GD then I am of Woren, but I'm not unhappy with either series. I don't see a problem with using either, given a little explination.


EDIT:

And as for the complete lack of magic, understand the GD is a realm of different dimensions. There have been people dimension hopping to and from GD, it's easy to come up with a mis-happed dimension jump could easily explain the presence of some were-cheetahs in the Naruto-verse

 

[GenocideHeart]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't were-cheetahs... and werecreatures in general... less than inclined to TELL people about what they are?

And a ninja-werecheetah is even less likely to say anything about it. Look at what happened to Gaara for just having a dangerous demon sealed in him. BEING what people perceive as a dangerous demons would've killed any chances the 4th had of becoming Hokage, and I don't seehim telling anyone, not even Sandaime. Secrets are tailor made to be revealed when shared, and the 4th never struck me as stupid in the Gaiden.

I'd gladly support any other kind of werecreature, it's not simply a matter of it being Woren or not, but Gold Diggers has a specific series of rules in the story, and bending them just is NOT possible without seriously wrecking the idea.

 

[ttestagr]

hmm.....If Naruto is a Werecheetah, anyone did care for do the spell what nullifies the thrall infection what would happen if he scratchs or bites anyone?....

I think the Yondaime was smart enough to either do the ritual as Naruto was born or the Kyuubi seal took care of that

That ritual, last I checked, took several hours... and Naruto was born smack in the middle of the Kyuubi attack. There was no time to perform it, and I don't buy for a moment that the Shiki Fuujin can conveniently block something completely different.

That particular plothole cannot be resolved without absolutely ludicrous explanations, and is the one reason why I don't recommend using the Gold Digger variety of lycanthropes.

Maybe the seal was just the 'quick fix' until his heritage comes forth, then Sarutobi has to do the rital with instructions left by the Yondaime, or someone has to be called in.

or the Yondaime left a medailion that keeps the thrall effect in check, which would be hilarious if he lost it during battle and made an enemy his loyal servant ^^

Two words: Female Haku


Or if you're really looking for fun, Anko when she licks his blood ^_^

 

[holyknight]

Another Kick to the hornet's nest..... :headbanger:

JADE. :sisi:

what happened with this plane?....maybe the FUBAR what left the world in this state, sealed temporally the dimensional barriers, or something of the style? And what if the Summons are from this dimension? :huh.:

 

[cilrais]

Well if no GD characters are even going to be in the story, why even constrain yourself to the ruleset of their universe, just lift the ideas you want to use off it, i.e. werecreature, cheetah, fast, strong, etc, and ignore stuff like inflicting and rituals and magic.

Or even a fic where yondy and naruto are to cheetahs as the inuzukas are to dogs.

 

[rootathell]

hmm.....If Naruto is a Werecheetah, anyone did care for do the spell what nullifies the thrall infection what would happen if he scratchs or bites anyone?....

I think the Yondaime was smart enough to either do the ritual as Naruto was born or the Kyuubi seal took care of that

That ritual, last I checked, took several hours... and Naruto was born smack in the middle of the Kyuubi attack. There was no time to perform it, and I don't buy for a moment that the Shiki Fuujin can conveniently block something completely different.

That particular plothole cannot be resolved without absolutely ludicrous explanations, and is the one reason why I don't recommend using the Gold Digger variety of lycanthropes.

Maybe the seal was just the 'quick fix' until his heritage comes forth, then Sarutobi has to do the rital with instructions left by the Yondaime, or someone has to be called in.

or the Yondaime left a medailion that keeps the thrall effect in check, which would be hilarious if he lost it during battle and made an enemy his loyal servant ^^

Two words: Female Haku


Or if you're really looking for fun, Anko when she licks his blood ^_^

Hm... the thrall effect could have been weakened over time so that it isn't the 'slavery kinda thing' or something like that, ideas are appreciated, that's the reason I posted the idea here.

 

[Matdeception]

I beg to differ about the thrall effect 'weakening' over time.

It doesn't weaken, the fact no one gets inflicted in GD is because they go to great pains to ward every were birth there.

Being Inflicted is not a good thing, by far. I'll even give you a perfect example why being Thralled doesn't weaken.

Iceron, the bastard little mage who created the freaking WERE races was inflicted by Sherra(Think thats her name), a were-rat crone of a bitch, and to this day Iceron is her personal bitch.

...

In the form of Gothwrain. Yes, Gothwrain is in fact Iceron, in case none of you knew.

Anyway, it really doesn't matter how you include, or if you include GD. For all we know Jade could be a barren waste land, some cataosphre nuked the Etheral stream which caused the destruction of the magical feilds within said place, killing off the inhabitants in mass, or could just as simply not exist - There is a reason for AU's, after all.

Tho, I am more inclined to the Woren idea, since it follows the K.I.S.S. method of writing (Keep It Simple, Stupid.)

 

[Typhonis]

Or Arashi got there by a dimensional jump to escape the werewolf betrayal.

Everyone thinks that what Arashji had was some weird bloodline limit. He knew better and kept his mouth shut on it but always was afraid those damn werewolves would find him and finish the job. So he has to deal with Kyuubi and now he has to seal him and realise something from his studies.Something that could translate to his heirs if he is lucky.... Kyuubi enhancing Narutos abilities as they were. Regeneratioin on a level never before seen. Endurance like no other and a possible lessening of his weaknesses.

Arashi goes ahead with the sealing but knows he will not survive .He hopes Naruto will and when the wolves do come he will hand them their asses.



Fast forwards to the Chunnin exam...Naruto vs Neji and he has sealed Narutos tenketsu when Naruto transforms for the first time. The crowd is stunned ...and a few speak out about a Yellow Flash......most thast knew Arashi and of his'bloodline limit' realise that Naruto may very well be related to him.

 

[Matdeception]

It's a thought, that's for sure. While Arashi could very well be afraid of the were-wolves, especially if he was banished by Brendan before the Betrayer got control of the powers granted by the book, it's not too unfeasible to think he was merely removed for destruction at a later time.

Meh.

 

[GenocideHeart]

Well, if rootathell uses the GD version, I might try a Naruto/Breath of Fire crossover myself. It was a dead idea of mine, after all... I'll see. *shrug*

 

[Mighty Bob]

'Fraid I gotta agree, seems it would be easier to just nab the ideas you like from GD and not worry about the rest, could just make a note at some point in the first chapter that the were abilities were inspired by, but aren't completely lifted from GD. There, no problem about warding or inflicting or whatnot. Unless that was gonna play some part in your story in which case this goes back to being a problem, which I can't offer any thoughts on cause everything I know about Gold Diggers I learned from this thread. :sweat:

Go for it either way GH, world could use more good Naruto fics, and just plain Breath of Fire exposure even if it's only through crossover or fusion.

 

[rootathell]

Well, I got an Idea yesterday night, what if the Yondaime did the thrall ritual while Naruto was being born and that's why the mother died.

They both knew they didn't have the time for the ritual after Naruto was born or they couldn't save the village.

And so the death of Naruto's mother vanishes in the files ad complications during an operation instead of giving birth.

 

[GenocideHeart]

Well, I got an Idea yesterday night, what if the Yondaime did the thrall ritual while Naruto was being born and that's why the mother died.

They both knew they didn't have the time for the ritual after Naruto was born or they couldn't save the village.

And so the death of Naruto's mother vanishes in the files ad complications during an operation instead of giving birth.

...

You are unnecessarily complicating things. If you want to use were-cheetahs, go ahead, but I HIGHLY HIGHLY recommend leaving the Gold Digger stuff out of it instead of covering for it with bullshit.

Sorry if I sound overly harsh, but I'm actually a huge Gold Digger fan, and it annoys me to see people mess with it when there are far simpler solutions.

In addition to this, Yondaime was also implied to have been on the damn battlefield or near it for the majority of the fight... there's a reason why he had Naruto BROUGHT to him. The only reason why Konoha's ninja lasted as long as they did was because their Hokage's presence inspired them... how else do you expect them actually delaying a gigantic fox's advance like that?

Anyway, you sould listen to Mighty Bob's advice. Lift SOME of the details from GD, and can the rest. It's preferable to totally screwing up the GD facts. Especially since you are almost guaranteed to be screwed over by whatever the author has planned.

 

[Matdeception]

Use the tried and true method.

K.I.S.S.


Keep. It. Simple, Stupid.

 

[Typhonis]

which is why my idea is that Arashi was sent here BY the werewolves. Brendan drunk with power or whatever wanted to test them out and they briught him a young Arashi or this was done much earlier.

He used a spell that sounded nasty and said werecheetah was blasted from his sight. Only after reeadinbg the details of the spell did he realise his mistakle but didn`t worry about it because of the troubles magical and non magical creaturs have reproducing so he marked Arashi down as a dead were cheetah.

Arashi thought they would come for him so when finnaly he goes to seal Kyuubi he plans on using his own son so that by the time the werewo9lves get there...they will have one nasty oponent to face.

In almost all fics everyone says that Arashi was kind and noble...thought to give him a mean streak as well.

 

[Mighty Bob]

Well, I got an Idea yesterday night, what if the Yondaime did the thrall ritual while Naruto was being born and that's why the mother died.

They both knew they didn't have the time for the ritual after Naruto was born or they couldn't save the village.

And so the death of Naruto's mother vanishes in the files ad complications during an operation instead of giving birth.

Eh, well if you're the one writing this you're welcome to do so, but it seems like you're stretching just to make it work. I still think my idea makes more sense and is over all simpler than all this contortion to get the ritual in.

Like GH said, sealing the Kyuubi into Naruto was an absolute last ditch effort by the Fourth. Until then he was out there with the rest of the ninja's of the village, doing his damnedest to kill or drive off the Fox. I doubt he had time to be there before or during Naruto's birth (even if he was his kid, or from some other origin) Actually I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't consider the Shiki Fuujin until he'd gotten word that a suitable container had in fact been born (again whether or not Naruto is his kid is a moot point, without a fairly newborn kid the Shiki Fuujin wouldn't be worth spit)

Is there really any reason you're so set to specifically make this a Gold Diggers crossover rather than just using the idea of Were-beings with super human ablitiles? Including all the baggage that comes with Gold Diggers Were-beings just seems to be making it more complicated for yourself.