Naruto Naruto's Regeneration

half baked cat

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#26
RE: Funny Naruto Pics

What Kakashi thinks about Naruto's healing should be taken with a grain of salt. He is not a medic, he is not an expert on Biju, seals, or Jinkurkin, he is merely a very powerful ninja.

I would say that the healing thing cannot be said to come from any specific source at the current moment. It might be an Uzumaki thing, it might be a Naruto thing, or it might be a Kurama thing.

For all we know, Kushina being an Uzumaki and the fact she got pregnant might have combined to form a new bloodline trait that is accelerated healing.
 

Knyght

The Collector
#27
[split] Funny Naruto Pics

Altered Nova said:
It's pretty much because of Karin. Before her I assumed that the Uzumaki having "high vitality and longevity" just meant they had lots of stamina and lived to be really old. But then she came along and there were two Uzumaki who done heal good, and healing factors does fit in with that whole "strong body" thing the Senju and Uzumaki had going for them as descendants of the younger son of the Sage.
And Kabuto implies it's a part of her heritage.
 

Amberion

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#28
RE: Funny Naruto Pics

knight504 said:
Altered Nova said:
It's pretty much because of Karin. Before her I assumed that the Uzumaki having "high vitality and longevity" just meant they had lots of stamina and lived to be really old. But then she came along and there were two Uzumaki who done heal good, and healing factors does fit in with that whole "strong body" thing the Senju and Uzumaki had going for them as descendants of the younger son of the Sage.
And Kabuto implies it's a part of her heritage.
Wasn't he referring to Uzumaki chakra? Seems the chakra itself "can" give members various abilities.

half baked cat said:
What Kakashi thinks about Naruto's healing should be taken with a grain of salt. He is not a medic, he is not an expert on Biju, seals, or Jinkurkin, he is merely a very powerful ninja.
He has and had connection to both Uzumaki and jinchuuriki.
 

Altered Nova

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#29
RE: Funny Naruto Pics

knight504 said:
Altered Nova said:
It's pretty much because of Karin. Before her I assumed that the Uzumaki having "high vitality and longevity" just meant they had lots of stamina and lived to be really old. But then she came along and there were two Uzumaki who done heal good, and healing factors does fit in with that whole "strong body" thing the Senju and Uzumaki had going for them as descendants of the younger son of the Sage.
And Kabuto implies it's a part of her heritage.
The weird part about Kabuto splicing Karin's DNA into his body to gain a healing factor though is that Karin herself doesn't seem to have one. She heals other people, but when she got stabbed by Sasuke she was apparently done for until Sakura showed up and healed her. What's up with that?
 

whitewhiskey

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#30
Deciding to move this discussion here, this thread is to discuss ideas and theories on Naruto's healing abilities. As far as I see it, there are three main ways to see it.

It's a clan thing-The belief that the Uzumaki clan's vitality and longevity are the source of Naruto's prodigious healing abilities, somewhat supported by Kushina's ability to survive Kurama's removal. Yes, some may say that shouldn't count because she died and, if she had this healing ability, she should have healed and survived, which is kinda like saying since you have an immune system that can fight off disease, you should be immune. Yes, you can fight off disease, but you still get the damn cold every couple months, your body can fight it, but you still feel the effects.

So Kushina might just have been to heal, but the injuries were too great for her to recover from on her own, especially when you add the giant freaking claw that probably shredded a vital organ or two.

It's a Kyuubi thing-The idea that Naruto's ability is rooted in his nature as a junchuriki, supported by the fact that that Naruto's cloak, the red ones anyway, were able to heal him to the point of closing a fist sized hole in his chest.

But, in a recent chapter, Naruto's shoulder was dislocated, and the golden cloak didn't automatically heal it, he had to have Hinata (IIRC) pop it back into place.

It's both-The idea that both the unique features in the Uzumaki clan, their wide range of abilities, combined with the fact that he is the son of a jinchuriki are the reason for his abilities. This can be supported by the fact that, at times, even without the cloak Naruto heals damn fast, and the cloak seems to speed things up, but also harm him. Naruto was also able to heal quickly with Hinata's salve, despite the fact that the Five Prong Seal had locked Kyuubi off, and it was still way to fast for just some medical salve. This would also explain why other Uzumaki may not have the same regenerative ability.

Now, let's discuss...
 
#31
Regarding the limitations of his healing abilities. (Not just in the he can't heal his head if it's crushed like a grape limited)

I'm not a doctor (or a medic-nin), but here's the scene where Kabuto explains what he did to Naruto.

http://www.mangapanda.com/93-173-10/naruto/chapter-168.html

From what I understand Kabuto severed/blocked Naruto's chakra (and blood flow) from that area of his body (and thus preventing Uzumaki genes or Kurama from doing anything since I assume either way his healing is chakra based).
 

whitewhiskey

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#32
It does make sense that his healing would be chakra based, Kurama's power would amp it up for the other two. But an idea like that would mean Kurama isn't the direct source of Naruto's healing, since Naruto's healing was still quick during the Chunin preliminaries when Kurama's power was sealed off
 

half baked cat

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#33
Amberion said:
half baked cat said:
What Kakashi thinks about Naruto's healing should be taken with a grain of salt. He is not a medic, he is not an expert on Biju, seals, or Jinkurkin, he is merely a very powerful ninja.
He has and had connection to both Uzumaki and jinchuuriki.
That may be true, but that does not make him an expert.


As for the healing being chakra based, I don't see any other way for it to be. Don't all the bloodlines and other special abilities in the series require chakra to one degree or another.

Also, while in sage mode, does Naruto have his healing and access to Kurama's chakra at the same time?
 

whitewhiskey

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#34
half baked cat said:
Amberion said:
half baked cat said:
What Kakashi thinks about Naruto's healing should be taken with a grain of salt. He is not a medic, he is not an expert on Biju, seals, or Jinkurkin, he is merely a very powerful ninja.
He has and had connection to both Uzumaki and jinchuuriki.
That may be true, but that does not make him an expert.


As for the healing being chakra based, I don't see any other way for it to be. Don't all the bloodlines and other special abilities in the series require chakra to one degree or another.

Also, while in sage mode, does Naruto have his healing and access to Kurama's chakra at the same time?
Not sure. He did slip into a sort of Kyuubi-Sage mode when talking to Nagato (He didn't do anything, it was mostly to show how pissed he was), but every time he's used sage mode since, he's either left the golden cloak or made a clone without the cloak to use it.

It's also unsure of it's effects on his healing, since Sage Mode increases his resiliance, making him harder to damage
 

violinmana

(Hardcore) Gamer
#35
Sasuke shoved his hand through Naruto's shoulder, Naruto got some Kurama chakra, Naruto regenerated.
 

MTing

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#36
Naruto got poisoned by the Demon Brothers, stabs himself, wound insta-heals and poison is flushed out.

The seal was still at it's strongest as Naruto has yet to tap into Kurama's chakra.
 

whitewhiskey

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#37
MTing said:
Naruto got poisoned by the Demon Brothers, stabs himself, wound insta-heals and poison is flushed out.

The seal was still at it's strongest as Naruto has yet to tap into Kurama's chakra.
But I think that has a solid basis in normal medicine, bleeding out the poison in a way that is similar to when people correctly use leeches. It's not exactly above natural healing, and we don't even know what kind of poison it was, whether it was a lethal poison or a paralytic, how much was actually in Naruto's system, or how much was needed to take effect.
 

Amberion

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#38
MTing said:
Naruto got poisoned by the Demon Brothers, stabs himself, wound insta-heals and poison is flushed out.

The seal was still at it's strongest as Naruto has yet to tap into Kurama's chakra.
I think Naruto has always had Kyuubis chakra going through him.

EDIT: Didn't it steam or something during it? If it did, it's not normal healing.
 

whitewhiskey

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#39
Amberion said:
MTing said:
Naruto got poisoned by the Demon Brothers, stabs himself, wound insta-heals and poison is flushed out.

The seal was still at it's strongest as Naruto has yet to tap into Kurama's chakra.
I think Naruto has always had Kyuubis chakra going through him.

EDIT: Didn't it steam or something during it? If it did, it's not normal healing.
The cuts he got while fighting Kiba steamed, after putting on Hinata's salve and Kyuubi was sealed
 

half baked cat

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#40
whitewhiskey said:
MTing said:
Naruto got poisoned by the Demon Brothers, stabs himself, wound insta-heals and poison is flushed out.

The seal was still at it's strongest as Naruto has yet to tap into Kurama's chakra.
But I think that has a solid basis in normal medicine, bleeding out the poison in a way that is similar to when people correctly use leeches. It's not exactly above natural healing, and we don't even know what kind of poison it was, whether it was a lethal poison or a paralytic, how much was actually in Naruto's system, or how much was needed to take effect.
That being a way to remove poison does not really explain the insta-healz of his brand new stab wound. That wound was pretty deep, yet he manages to heal from it in seconds. Unless that poison was some sort of special poison that heals after it enters or leaves the body, then it was a healing factor and Kurama would have had very little to do with it.

Amberion said:
MTing said:
Naruto got poisoned by the Demon Brothers, stabs himself, wound insta-heals and poison is flushed out.

The seal was still at it's strongest as Naruto has yet to tap into Kurama's chakra.
I think Naruto has always had Kyuubis chakra going through him.

EDIT: Didn't it steam or something during it? If it did, it's not normal healing.
I think that may be fanon that Naruto always had a bit of the Kyubi's chakra running through his system. Is there anything in canon that says Naruto constantly had some of the Kyubi's chakra going through his system?
 

Altered Nova

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#41
half baked cat said:
I think that may be fanon that Naruto always had a bit of the Kyubi's chakra running through his system. Is there anything in canon that says Naruto constantly had some of the Kyubi's chakra going through his system?
 

Knyght

The Collector
#42
I wonder...has the Kyuubi's chakra been mixing with his all his life or did it only start after the seal cracked open for the first time at the bridge?
 

whitewhiskey

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#44
Most likely in miniscule amounts, but it amps up a bit after that, especially over the timeskip when Jiraiya loosens the seal
 

half baked cat

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#45
Ah, the joys of reading so much fanfiction canon and fanon are mixed together and are unrecognizable.
 

Knyght

The Collector
#46
It's just that I think I remember Jiraiya saying at some point that it wasn't until recently that his body was capable of handling the Kyuubi's chakra. Made me think that the bridge could have been the first time they'd ever mixed.

Just a random thought anyway.
 

half baked cat

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#47
Well, on that page he says the chakra mixes. So, it is diluted by Naruto's natural chakra. It is not the use of it in its pure form.

It is like comparing a 75% concentrate acid with a 5% concentrate acid. Both will produce a reaction, but you are far less likely to feel much of anything in the 5% compared to acid burn you likely would get from the 75%.
 

Altered Nova

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#48
It does explain why Naruto has such an absurd amount of chakra though. Even when he's not actively cracking open the seal and drawing directly from the Kyuubi's chakra a significant portion of the chakra he's using is from the Kyuubi because it passively leaks into his body.

I wonder if that is a standard feature of jinchuuriki seals or if Naruto's seal is unique in that way?
 

Knyght

The Collector
#49
The way Jiraiya talks about it there makes it sound specific to Naruto, imo.
 

Altered Nova

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#50
That might explain why every Kyuubi jinchuuriki has been an Uzumaki, maybe that was part of the deal the Senju struck with the Uzumaki to be allowed to use the Uzumaki's uber fuinjutsu to contain the Kyuubi. Having each jinchuuriki be an Uzumaki gives the Uzumaki clan a lot of leverage in their alliance with Konoha, and Konoha's jinchuuriki get to have the best damn seal in the elemental countries, allowing their jinchuuriki to still be monstrously powerful due to to their overwhelming chakra capacities despite the fact that Konoha apparently never trained their jinchuuriki to actively use their bijuu's power.
 
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