Akamatsuverse Negima: Farewell to the Flesh

[exar]

Honestly, I think Lich Negi would be a much more interesting story. while it doesn't play to sexy comedy, it does play to thought provoking. How does he face ethical and moral problems from beyond he grave? Does he still have the boundless optimism and never-say-die attitude as canon Negi? (though that phrase takes on a whole new meaning) How does he handle the mental changes of puberty in a body that will never enter it? How does he relate to his students and help them grow while his humanity and emotions are slipping away from him? Does Eva identify with him, take pity on him and try to help him stay human, or does she torture him to speed his fall?

And most of all, what happens to his sanity when he learns his father is still alive and all his sacrifices have been for nothing?

Also, remember that liches don't go crusty overnight. If Negi is 'fresh', so to speak, he would still look human, or close enough that makeup and/or minor illusion spells would hide his true nature. All but the cold aura, anyway.

 

[FH_Meta]

For me the major problem with Negi as a lich is that liches are pretty much as a whole represented as very evil, unwholesome things.

What do you do when the character starts off damned and shows no signs of improving?

 

[Wonderbee31]

Holy Krak, but this looks dark, so of course MOAR would be welcomed indeed. Lich Negi, now wouldn't that be something top let loose in Mahora school, wonder how the headmaster would handle that?

 

[Alzrius]

Hm, looking back at my last post, I didn't make it too clear that the way the story would be written would be different depending on which option I went with.

Negi as a living necromancer would be, in terms of tone, closer to the original manga. That is to say, it'd be a fic that's comparatively light in tone, and still have some level of being a sex comedy, though it'd still have plenty of drama also.

The fic with him as a lich would be much darker. I'm also of the opinion that virtually all liches are irredeemably evil, and this Negi would be no exception. In this case, the entire fic would be an action-drama story, with Negi being the antagonist.

Having said all that, most of you seem to have picked up on all of that intuitively, and want to go with the first option, which is enough to make me rethink my original idea.

Thanks for the feedback (and more is always welcome)!

 

[Prince Charon]

Personally, I think I'd go for living Necromancer, unless you want to go very Dark.

OTOH, I could see a Lich/Vampire pairing story potentially being light-hearted. Probably not, though.

 

[FH_Meta]

Personally, I think I'd go for living Necromancer, unless you want to go very Dark.

OTOH, I could see a Lich/Vampire pairing story potentially being light-hearted. Probably not, though.

It could be light-hearted, but it would also be indescribably disturbing. We have shota!Lich and pseudololi!Vampire engaged in the warm glow of some burning corpses, enjoying themselves far too much.

If they are engaged in 'romance' then it becomes even more disturbing.

 

[Grunt]

The sad thing is that I can think of far more funny scenes for LichNegi than for NecromancerNegi. Damn :blink:

Oh well, I vote for .. well I can't decide :headbanger: but i don't wanna be a Kuno :blue: so I will just say, do what you like, both ideas are great :yay:

 

[Zenithos]

It could be light-hearted, but it would also be indescribably disturbing. We have shota!Lich and pseudololi!Vampire engaged in the warm glow of some burning corpses, enjoying themselves far too much.

If they are engaged in 'romance' then it becomes even more disturbing.

Call me weird, but I find the image cute. No, I'm not a necrophile. I just like the image of Negi and Eva holding hands, enjoying a common interest. If the common interest is basking in the glow of a mass cremation, then heck, why not?

But being a big Negi fan, I vote for just a normal Negi Necromancer. I don't think the world's ready for another lich king. The Frozen throne would shatter and collapse from the weight of the egos.

 

[Fatuous One]

The fic with him as a lich would be much darker. I'm also of the opinion that virtually all liches are irredeemably evil, and this Negi would be no exception. In this case, the entire fic would be an action-drama story, with Negi being the antagonist.

See, I'd like to read this. While the Negima fandom isn't exactly full of good fics, reusing the same situation (Negi as 'slightly different' school teacher at Mahora) seems rather stale. Having Negi go lich and act as the bad guy is a breath of fresh air... or something.

Although, I DO wonder what Chao would be in this case. :/

Well, in the end, it's your choice. My vote is still Negi!Lich.

 

[GenocideHeart]

I vote Lich!Negi too.

Although, a Bone Master like Lothar from PS:T could also work...

 

[Moshulel]

Lich!Negi... *prolly played too much Warcraft 3*

Anything is available to one that can control magic.

 

[Jheph]

I still think that Negi is a bit young to want to become a lich. The fic can still be dark even if Negi is just a necromancer. If you planned on Negi having a near death experience and almost dying, then I guess it can make him desperate enough to convert himself into a skeletal undead and to placing his soul in a phylactery(sp?).

Either way, MOAR!

 

[AzureSky]

MOAR

Either Lich! Negi or Necromancer! Negi is fine by me.

Here's a question: Would Chao exist if Negi is a lich? Remember she is Negi's descendant from the future.
I don't think Lich can procreate naturally.. (without the help of magic of course)

 

[alansg]

Here's a question: Would Chao exist if Negi is a lich? Remember she is Negi's descendant from the future.
I don't think Lich can procreate naturally.. (without the help of magic of course)

Since Akamatsu started playing with time travels, the Negima already have 3 different time lines. Five if you consider the 2 animes. We can always say Chao is Negi's great grandaughter from an alternate future.


As for this fic, Linch Negi would be way too dark. Also, I can see somebody like Takamichi allowing him to become one. Necromancer Negi is the way to go.

 

[Alzrius]

I'd like to ask for no spoilers regarding the exact nature of Chao, if you please. I haven't read any scanlations of the manga, preferring instead the licensed, domestically-released manga, of which the twelfth volume only recently came out.

That said, thanks to everyone here for the lively discussion about which direction this fic should go in! I've largely made up my mind, and hope to get moar up soon!

 

[titanz]

good Idea when is more comming out

 

[Belgarion213]

Ok seriously wtf? Have you ever looked at the date for the post above you? In case you haven't let me post it for you

Posted on Dec 18 2006, 02:42 PM

Yes thats right, it was posted in December two YEARS ago... Why did you have to necro it. Necroing makes cat girls cry.

 

[Andoryu-sama]

MOAR...

Just had to get it in at least once...lol

It's an interesting take on the Negima series though so I'm looking forward to the next update.

 

[Scygnus Darkhawk]

*cough*

Necro-ing the Necromancer!Negi thread... :snigger:

 

[BloodRevan]

Apologies for the necro!

I'll admit to preferring the idea of Lich!Negi. But being of the opinion that alignment should be more about choice over species/type, I must humbly
disagree with the idea that all Liches are or should be irredeemably evil. Vampires are also limited to evil alignments by DnD standards, if memory serves, but Evangeline seems Chaotic Neutral to me. If being a Lich makes Negi automatically irredeemably evil, than the same should be true about Eva. This means there is no way in hell she is at Mahora, as Nagi would have probably destroyed her at first opportunity. You think the old man would want her within a thousand miles of Konoka, much less the same class? Now, as I said, while evil alignment in gameplay may be true for a Lich, as opposed to the any non-evil of a Archlich, I think in a story it should be up to the Lich whether or not it chooses to be evil. Apathy I can understand though, I figure someone who is beyond starvation would have a hard time feeling much sympathy for the starving peasants.

Now. as has been mentioned, undead shota does not lend itself very well to a sexy comedy.

So, in true TFF fashion, let's make it...

I very vaguely recall reading somewhere, some DnD site I think, about a theory that certain paths to Lichdom doesn't necessarily kill the body. It's just that after the ritual, the new Lich doesn't take care of it and so it dies. Doesn't bother to eat or sleep, that sort of thing. I also remember reading somewhere that Lichdom can happen as the result of life prolonging magics and rituals.

So here's a way we do it, some time after the demon attack on his village, Negi convinces Nekane and Anya to take part in a little ritual he's set up. Details of the ritual is up to the author but the one in my head would be a relatively minor one that takes ambient mana from the environment and uses it to expand the reserves of the participates. This is on the assumation that the lifespan and the maximun mana reserves of a mage are directly porportional. While he was very careful when setting up the places for Anya and Nekane, he got a little careless with his own. The ritual ends with Nekane having to revive Negi with CPR, mouth-to-mouth, or a spell or something, followed by them forcing an explanation on the ritual from a curiously apathetic Negi. Don't have any ideas for how the two would come to the realization that he has become/is becoming, a Lich. Besides the obvious; not eating, sleeping, etc.

Anyone have any ideas? For his Phylactery, as well?

I think I shall bow out for a few hours to get some sleep.

 

[Master of Squirrel-Fu]

NEEEECCCCRRRROOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!

[RAGEFACE]

 

[ttestagr]

NEEEECCCCRRRROOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!

[RAGEFACE]

Shut up. He actually had something to say. Necros like this are cool.



That said, the appeal of lich-Negi is less now that we have canon lightning demon Negi.

 

[Dark Knight Gafgar]

All the ladies dig rigormortis.

 

[zeebee1]

I think he was joking.

 

[Gatorade]

NEEEECCCCRRRROOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!

[RAGEFACE]

Shut up. He actually had something to say. Necros like this are cool.



That said, the appeal of lich-Negi is less now that we have canon lightning demon Negi.

Not just lightning demon, he can theoretically absorb any elemental magic and take its properties, what ever they are.