Paid Forum?

BloodRedSword

Well-Known Member
#1
I'm kinda of wondering... Since we have crossed 4k of members, isn't it time for us to move over the a paid forum instead of a free hosting?

Just a food for though...
 

trevelyan1983

Well-Known Member
#2
Oro?

Is there some kind of unwritten rule of the interweb that says all forums must start making revenue after 4000 members are onboard? :unsure: :ph43r:
 

zeebee1

Well-Known Member
#3
Just what purpose would a paid forum serve? It's not like the site has ever shut down due to too much bandwith. Seeing as I've been here since day one, disregarding the days Hawk was the only member, I'm pretty sure I'm right when I say that isn't a problem.
 
#4
Fuck this idea. I don't care how good content is provided; if this forum moves to paid membership I'm gone.
 

GaelicDragon

Well-Known Member
#5
No...

All having a paid forum would do is to kill this group. I have already seen it happen over at Delphi forums when they went over to a paid forum. It killed one of the better run forums for Ranma fanfiction that I have been on.

Unfortunately, your food for thought was created by C-ko.
 

Souffle

Well-Known Member
#6
I think he worded it wrong.

I believe he's wondering if we're going to switch to a different forum software, which i believe you have to pay for.
 

Kayeich

Well-Known Member
#7
GaelicDragon said:
All having a paid forum would do is to kill this group. I have already seen it happen over at Delphi forums when they went over to a paid forum. It killed one of the better run forums for Ranma fanfiction that I have been on.
Wait, wait...you thought delphi was "one of the better run" fanfic forms?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Damn, man, I was a freaking -moderator- there, and I thought there was too much rampant stupidity there in the last two years of its life. Admittedly, it certainly didn't help that one of those years required the forum owner and his moderators to pay for their accounts. Or that Kwok was and still is one of the laziest asses in the world. And yet, what really killed the forum was Sunlord gaining control of it from Kwok, and having Maoh is his main flunky as well as his constant forum reboots.

The one thing I'll admit from delphi is a heckuva lot more good memories.

Anyhow, this forum is gold compared to delphi. I mean, c'mon, there's just Hawk here in charge, you don't see spam messages even rarely or possibly even at all, people actually listen when warned about what they're doing by Hawk.

Keep it as it is, the forum is fairly awesome as is.
 

Dawn_Gazer

Well-Known Member
#8
trevelyan1983 said:
Don't you dare blasphmy Kenshin!

:lonegunman: :flameon: :lonegunman: :flameon:


In seriousness, as long as I ain't deleted from the database, I don't care...

Though it -WOULD- cause world peace...
 

Legacy|iB

Well-Known Member
#9
....hell....NO!

As the saying goes, 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it.' I like TFF the way it is. It doesn't have to be fancy - it's a place for us to discuss items like fanfiction, anime, games, etc. Whatever number of new features and stuff like that isn't necessary, especially if it has to be paid for.

TFF is good the way it is. I suggest keeping it like that.
 

runestar

Well-Known Member
#10
Isn't "oro" supposed to stand to mean vaginal discharge of some sort? :unsure!:

I don't think this forum needs a upgrade. Even with so many members, I can safely say that 99+% of them are lurkers for most part, and would this pose little threat of overloading the servers or causing whatever damage you may have in mind.

Plus, I don't think anyone would come if you wanted to charge for its services. Part of this forum's allure is its "free and easy" nature, after all.
 

Souffle

Well-Known Member
#11

No one read my post, huh.

There is a good chance that you don't have to buy anything or pay to be on this forum. Infact, aside from somethingawful, i know no forums where you have to pay to register.

The only person incurring a fee would be Hawk, and as unlikely it would seem, if he was to get vBulletin, it would cost him $160 for an infinite license, and for a server of some sort to host it on, which depending can be incredibly cheap per year, about $12 or so a year.

Such a decision would be Hawk's and his alone if he wants to do such a thing. The OP is just asking if he would. Calm down.
 

GaelicDragon

Well-Known Member
#12
*re-reads post*

Now that I put a little more thought into it...yeah, your right Kayeich.

"Better run" wasn't what I was going for.

About the best that I can come up with is better attended. IE, more/better authors. Actual C&C being asked for and being done. Hell, a lot of addventure episodes were edited on that forum.

Enough reminiscing. Now back to the topic...

*content edited after reading Souffle's newest post*

Maybe a few advertisements added on. Kind of like what ff.net has currently. Of course, the revenue that the ads produce might only be a small bit.
 

trevelyan1983

Well-Known Member
#13
Dawn_Gazer said:
trevelyan1983 said:
Don't you dare blasphmy Kenshin!

:lonegunman: :flameon: :lonegunman: :flameon:


In seriousness, as long as I ain't deleted from the database, I don't care...

Though it -WOULD- cause world peace...
Sessha has been blaspheming Kenshin since he first joined TFF, de gozaru. :p

I all seriousness, I for one could not continue to be a member if we were asked to start paying for the privilege.
 

Moshulel

Well-Known Member
#14
"If it's not broken don't fix it."

And that sums up my opinion on the subject.
 

zeebee1

Well-Known Member
#15
Despite being free the site does use ads. That's why it's free after all.
 

BloodRedSword

Well-Known Member
#16
Souffle said:
I think he worded it wrong.

I believe he's wondering if we're going to switch to a different forum software, which i believe you have to pay for.
Correct... My mistake... My bad... Anyway it is just a suggestion guys...
 

Steel

Well-Known Member
#17
And, uh, guys, he's not talking about paying to use it. He's talking about a paid hosting, with domain name, etc. And a real skin.
 

SimmyC

Well-Known Member
#18
In that case...

I still see no reason for it. Granted, if Hawk wanted to make this site all 'cool looking', then yeah. He could. Problem is, well, it would still have to come out of his own pocket. Unless one of your are generous enough to help him pay for it. <_<
 

PCHeintz72

The Sentient Fanfic Search Engine mk II
#19
Steel said:
And, uh, guys, he's not talking about paying to use it. He's talking about a paid hosting, with domain name, etc. And a real skin.
Skins are a almost worthless feature. Almost always I have to override it to a default due to something not working correctly in the skin.

As a recent example, the Fukufics skin is dreadful, I cannot pageup, pagedown or properly copy paste in it, had to set my profile to override it and go to the default non-skin mode of the php forum software. Which is a further annoyance, as I used to like being able to browse that forum without logging in, cannot do that anymore.

I'd rather Innvision have a working search. This and MediaMiner count as the top worst ones out there IMO. In comparison, I like FanFiction.NET's search, much more reliable.
 

runestar

Well-Known Member
#20
And it is a pity that advanced Google search does not work here either. :(

I actually like this bare-bones blue background. For me at least, no significant improvement of any sort is needed yet. Maybe search, but I have no need for such a function yet.
 

Souffle

Well-Known Member
#21
The one failing problem i have with this forum is the lack of a functioning search.
 

PCHeintz72

The Sentient Fanfic Search Engine mk II
#22
runestar said:
And it is a pity that advanced Google search does not work here either. :(
I do not think I even managed to find anything on any Invision based forum with that search.

I actually like this bare-bones blue background. For me at least, no significant improvement of any sort is needed yet. Maybe search, but I have no need for such a function yet.
Well... I did not mean the default interface is perfect, just much better than my luck with skins.

Functionality wise I far prefer the interface forrmat of Beehive or MX Board with threads to the left than the top down model of php, Invision, or VBulletin based forums. I find this interface design clumsy but reliable.

It is mostly trouble free, other than the weird moments the forum stops responding (I occasionally lose typed posts that way), and the odd instances where it accepts a post, but does not display it right away when refreshing the page.
 

Souffle

Well-Known Member
#23
There have been several instances where i posted, but the thread doesn't show such in the thread list(doesn't even cycle it to the top), or i double posted for no reason.

Another huge problem is the quoting system. It's dumb if i want to quote different people, and the fact that quotes next in each other so easily is terrible.

Functionality wise, imo, invisionfree is blegh. It works, but it feels very broken.
 

SimmyC

Well-Known Member
#24
As people mentioned, this type of forum is not perfect. As mentioned before, issues like Search or the quote thing needs some tweaking. Though the quotes are manageable. Maybe not inconvenient but, you can simply open the topic in a new window and quote from there. Only thing that requires more than just (quote and /quote with the [] in it) is when you're identifying who it is. In those cases, I just copy the coding that enabled names, and just, change the name.

But overall, this bare bones forum is sufficient. And again, a fancy skinned forum may not always be cracked up to the job for some/many people.
 

PCHeintz72

The Sentient Fanfic Search Engine mk II
#25
Another huge problem is the quoting system. It's dumb if i want to quote different people, and the fact that quotes next in each other so easily is terrible.
Though the quotes are manageable. Maybe not inconvenient but, you can simply open the topic in a new window and quote from there. Only thing that requires more than just (quote and /quote with the [] in it) is when you're identifying who it is. In those cases, I just copy the coding that enabled names, and just, change the name.
Actually, I disagree. The quote tagging system as used in Invision works practically identically as everywhere else.

- Invision (like here and Shinji's) and phpBB (like both Fukufics and Kasumi & Ranma) based forums all use what they call BBCode for its taging system in posts.

- VBulletin (like Sanjiyan's) based forums use what they call Vb Code, but still is basically a variation on BBCode (in fact, the Vb Code page on it at Sanjiyans has BBCode in the URL).

- Beehive (like Anifics) based forums use different brackets, but functionality is nearly the same. Beehive has slightly more tags available than BBCode were one to get fancy (like for example superscript and subscript), but are not really needed in everyday posting anyway.

All are variations on attempts at simplified HTML tagging.
 
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