Peter Parker, Sorceror Supreme!

[angrytiger0jg]

I had a strange plot bunny come into my head the other day over tea, and it refuses to leave me alone. Therefore, I thought I might share it with you all. As you may know, The Ultimate Marvel version of Doctor Strange is somewhat incompetent compared to the 616 version. Then the thought came to me: What if, somehow The Power of the Sorceror Supreme somehow passed to Peter Parker, before he became Spiderman? Perhaps The Ancient One saw something in Peter that merited his attention, perhaps Peter was chosen to become a Sorceror by the Vishanti themselves. The end result however is Peter becoming Something far more than he ever imagined. Personally, I view this as a serious sort of fic, and not a fic of the cracky variety, though I can see where that would be entertaining as well.


I'd be interested to know what you all think. Is it a good Idea? A bad one? Is my sanity taking it's last gasps (This IS TFF, after all)?

 

[Prince Charon]

I had a strange plot bunny come into my head the other day over tea, and it refuses to leave me alone. Therefore, I thought I might share it with you all. As you may know, The Ultimate Marvel version of Doctor Strange is somewhat incompetent compared to the 616 version. Then the thought came to me: What if, somehow The Power of the Sorceror Supreme somehow passed to Peter Parker, before he became Spiderman? Perhaps The Ancient One saw something in Peter that merited his attention, perhaps Peter was chosen to become a Sorceror by the Vishanti themselves. The end result however is Peter becoming Something far more than he ever imagined. Personally, I view this as a serious sort of fic, and not a fic of the cracky variety, though I can see where that would be entertaining as well.


I'd be interested to know what you all think. Is it a good Idea? A bad one? Is my sanity taking it's last gasps (This IS TFF, after all)?

Potential, it has. Could be very cool, if done right.

 

[wannabeamonkey]

I'd be interested to know what you all think. Is it a good Idea? A bad one? Is my sanity taking it's last gasps (This IS TFF, after all)?

You have sanity? Then why are you here?

HE'S A WITCH A WITCH, BURN HIM!

Having said this, I have a question, is he still in school struggling to gain control of this awesome powers, and if so, does he still get bitten?

 

[GhostElder]

[stupid voice] Burn the Witch! [/stupid voice]


Perhaps he stays at school for an idiot free period for some quiet glamoured spellbook/textbook study time, and isn't on the field trip at all.

 

[angrytiger0jg]

Having said this, I have a question, is he still in school struggling to gain control of this awesome powers, and if so, does he still get bitten?

Huh. That's an interesting question, that I hadn't given any thought to, honestly. The way I pictured it, it's Peter Parker, attitude and all, just with magic. I personally dislike the idea of Pete getting both Magic and Spider-powers simply because magic is more than powerful enough in the Marvel Universe as it is. It raises an interesting question, however. Who, if not Peter DOES get bitten?

Another question that I'd like to bounce off the peanut gallery is this: Should Peter eventually meet and team up with other Marvel Heroes of a Mystical bent? For example, It's Canon that Blade exists in the Marvel Universe. From a storytelling perspective would it make sense for these two to ever meet or team up?

 

[nuclear death frog]

The question remains: Would Parker turn J. Jonah Jameson into a newt?

And would he get better?

 

[SotF]

The question remains: Would Parker turn J. Jonah Jameson into a newt?

And would he get better?

It's not a question of if, but when. Peter's sense of humor would make it impossible for him to let that go.

 

[wannabeamonkey]

dude SPIRDER-MJ!

I patently refuse to give any unknowns spider powers and I sure ain't giving them to someone like harry who has such a fragile psyche and flash, HELL NO!

 

[angrytiger0jg]

I actually quite like the Idea of a Spider-MJ. And actually, it dovetails nicely with my other notion where Gwen Stacey at some point becomes Peter's apprentice. Every Sorceror needs an apprentice, right? A sort of Clea figure, if you will.


And yes, I think that JJ should most definitely be turned into a newt. Cosmic justice almost demands it.

All this talk of origins actually brings me to another interesting point. Where exactly DOES Peter meet up with the Ancient One, or whomever gives him training? The Ancient one, I believe is in Tibet...

Oh dear, I've just had a horrible idea. Is the Ancient One as a Mr. Miyagi type figure too much of a cliche? :huh.:

 

[the DragonBard]

I should point out that it's canon that Spidey 'is' a mystical being, being an incarnation of the Spider totem.

 

[wannabeamonkey]

I'm not so sure about that, I remember one arc where it was suggested, but, is it ever actually stated, also, why exactly does Peter need an ancient one. (Also, if you've seen the animated movie you'll note that Dr. Strange's training, had a very karate kid feel, so ancient one as mr miyagi, not really all that bad.

Now, like I said, who needs the ancient one? The sorcerer supreme isn't something that has a minimum amount of active duty is it?

If Strange found Peter and felt that he was supposed to be it, he could start the training.

 

[Jakkun]

It might not be so bad if Harry gets the powers. It should prevent Norman from going batshit. If Harry has the abilities, then Norman won't try and become a father to Peter. Instead, he will treat Harry better, and it would be better for all of them. Plus Ben would probably live. I don't know if I would trust Gwen with magic. Might be better to use MJ, and maybe add her as a second apprentice. Some competition between the two could be interesting. Add in some kinky apprentice outfit, and it should be good.

 

[mandalorianjedi]

It might not be so bad if Harry gets the powers. It should prevent Norman from going batshit. If Harry has the abilities, then Norman won't try and become a father to Peter. Instead, he will treat Harry better, and it would be better for all of them. Plus Ben would probably live. I don't know if I would trust Gwen with magic. Might be better to use MJ, and maybe add her as a second apprentice. Some competition between the two could be interesting. Add in some kinky apprentice outfit, and it should be good.

Slutty Sorceress Gwen and MJ, FTW!!!

 

[angrytiger0jg]

Now you're talking my Language!


Just to be clear, this Idea is an open one. Anyone who'd care to take a crack at it is more than welcome to.

 

[BF110C4]

Also if you want to keep the spider theme without getting the bite, you can say that the magic comes from his uncle the former sorcerer and his death was due to the failed exorcism of a Demon Spider, leaving Peter with a badly contained servant of Loth inside him (Gaara level of contaiment) and the risk of madness.

So Peter tries all the contacts of his uncle until a Madame Web tells him of his destiny and introduce him to the proper Old Wise Man ?.

And for Gwen, you could put her like a New Age witch, without any power but all the funny cliche false magic facts.

 

[wannabeamonkey]

It might not be so bad if Harry gets the powers. It should prevent Norman from going batshit. If Harry has the abilities, then Norman won't try and become a father to Peter. Instead, he will treat Harry better, and it would be better for all of them. Plus Ben would probably live. I don't know if I would trust Gwen with magic. Might be better to use MJ, and maybe add her as a second apprentice. Some competition between the two could be interesting. Add in some kinky apprentice outfit, and it should be good.

I'm not very familiar with the comics, but it it's anything like the 90s show didn't Harry go batshit while trying to avenge his father? if so, Powers or no powers he would still go batshit.....

and if it's like what the newer series was like, then, harry was trying to gain his father's approval, but being a jock didn't work because his father was only interested in business and science. So once again, the powers wouldn't matter.

Also, we need to take one thing into accound, the web shooters. I don't think anybody in the series besides Peter has the mind to make those, harry, could conceivably get somebody down at Oscorp to make them, but for anyone else, Peter Parker would probably end up as a confidant.

Also, wasn't the death of Uncle ben a home invasion? I know the movie had it as a carjacking, but I remember something about it being a home invasion, so, since Peter probably wouldn't be at the wrestling matches, the bad guy could still get away and bingo bongo home invasion still happens, depending on whether Peter's there or not uncle ben dies, or lives, or he still dies despite peter being there.

 

[SotF]

It wasn't a home invasion. The movie got it pretty much right. Peter was trying wrestling to get money from his powers and Ben died due to the guy he let get away.

 

[Jakkun]

This is the Ultimate timeline, so things are quite a bit different. I don't remember how Ben died in this version, I suppose I could re-read that part. I think he was alive for quite a while. He was a lot more fleshed out than he normally is. He is a pretty cool hippy type guy. May is not just a little old lady, she has a personality and bitches out JJ.

In Ultimate Spider-man, the trip happens but it is to Oscorp. He gets bitten by a spider that was part of an experiment involving a super soldier serum. Norman goes pretty far to try and control Peter. He considers him to be a major achievement. If Harry was bitten instead, then Norman would be happy with it. He tried to make Harry an experiment later and it kinda failed. Since Norman was trying to make the next Captain America, things could have turned out fairly well if it was Harry. Norman probably wouldn't have ended up such an evil bastard.

I like the Ultimate universe. I have only really read Spider-man and the Ultimates, but it seems pretty good. Ironman was nice, but doesn't have any connection to the Ultimates version that I can tell, plus it was pretty short so far. I think the new movies might be based on this universe partially. They talked about casting roles in one of the comics. Another fun thing about USM is that it tends to have the females naked a lot, which is interesting since they are 15. MJ, Gwen and Liz Allen have all been naked that I can recall. Maybe Kitty too, not sure. Usually involves powers getting out of control. Which is a bit more realistic than miraculously having clothes that cover everything in just the right places.

 

[SotF]

It's pretty much the same in the Ultimate universe...even more similar to the movie one.

 

[wannabeamonkey]

It didn't mention this was ultimate series spiderman, mentioned as such about dr. strange, but, since this is AU....

Also, SOTF, in the series it was home invasion, by the guy peter let go, also, can anyone point me to a place I can read Ultimate Spiderman online?

I didn't have a job when it came out and the library has a very weirdly designed collection of it....(many volumes missing)

 

[the DragonBard]

I'm not so sure about that, I remember one arc where it was suggested, but, is it ever actually stated...

It was also suggested in an arch of the Ultraverse comic, Prime, which was owned by Marvel at the time, making it canon. There was a dimensional link between the Ultraverse and Marvel, which was connected to Spidey.

 

[wannabeamonkey]

I have no clue what the ultraverse is.

And incidentally, how do you know that wasn't the one I meant?


Ahhh, the Ultras, I loved Ultraforce, that show rocked.

 

[wingthesword]

I got to agree with monkey, where can we read it online?

 

[the DragonBard]

I got to agree with monkey, where can we read it online?

No clue.
I just remember it from back when they were still releasing Ultraverse comics.

 

[wannabeamonkey]

uh, I think he meant Ultimate Spiderman, cause that's sure as hell what I meant.