Ranma ½ [Ranma ½] Miscellaneous ideas.

chronodekar

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gemmaethanwhitaker said:
Idea/Fic Search: Barring the Ranma Engaged to Nabiki arc, Akane can do no wrong in their relationship, so how about something that plays off this?
What exactly do you mean by 'Akane can do no wrong' ? It's the kind of expression folks have wars over. Do you mean that she behaves like the ideal spouse and supports Ranma without complaining? Or is this supposed to be a story from Akane's point-of-view where she's the victim and everyone else is out to get her?

-chronodekar
 
I interpreted it as his usual bitching.
 

Lord Raa

Exporter of Juice Tins
New idea. Well, a reworking of an older one I had.


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“That's a fine boy you're raising there,” a man in a nice suit said to a bespectacled man in a dirty gi.

“What of it?” the man asked, moving between his son and the stranger.

“I apologise, sir, I meant nothing sinister,” the suited man bowed respectfully. “I was just lamenting that there are so many others who allow their children to squander their natural physical talents. Martial artists do not get the respect they deserve.”

The martial artist puffed up his chest in pride. “Yes, it's shame, but I promised to raise my son to a man amongst men. I can't fail him.”

“What if I offered you the opportunity to ensure that your son is a prime physical specimen? I can't do anything about his fighting skills, but I can help with his strength, stamina and poise.”

“I'm curious as to what you have to offer, but I know I cannot afford it. My son and I will have to do this old fashioned way.”

“I wouldn't charge you a single yen for this.”

“Why not?” the martial artist asked, his eyes narrowing in suspicion. He picked up his son. “Is this where I tell you to never speak to me or my son ever again?”

“Oh no, I apologise profusely, sir. I merely meant that it is an experimental treatment that does not guarantee results. You would be doing me a great favour by allowing me to... I hesitate to use the word experiment, but I fear I can't find a more suitable alternative.”

“You want me to risk my only son on a vague promise of him being a better martial artist? That I should let you stick him with countless needles on the off chance that he might be stronger?”

“Your method of training involves punching and kicking him,” the suited man countered.

“At least he will have earned every victory,” the man said as he turned to leave. “My son will not bring shame on me or our school by cheating with drugs.”

“Wait, what I meant to say is that you would also be compensated for your co-operation. Handsomely compensated. And it isn't performance enhancing drugs like they test for at the Olympics.”

The man paused. 'Money is tight right now...' “What are you planning for my son?”

“Just an examination and, if he's suitable, some treatments. There will be injections,” the suited man cautioned, “But not every day. The plan is regular observations. ”

“For how long? The total course of treatments, I mean.”

“You come to our lab every six months for a week. Two weeks, at the very maximum, depending on test results for the treatments, it could be something until he's 18.”

The martial artist considered the offer. Even if it didn't work out after this first meeting, he'd have a meal and a few yen to tide him over for the next few weeks while he figured out the next stage of training. And if it did work out well enough to bring them back every six months, then a guaranteed place for a week or two had its advantages too.

“Alright, take me to your lab, Mr.?”

“Urobuchi, Kozo Urobuchi,” the suited man said. “My employer, Amalgamated Life Sciences will be glad to see you and your son, Mr?”

“Saotome, Genma Saotome, and this is my son, Ranma.”

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I think I'm intrigued enough to want information.
 

Lord Raa

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nuclear death frog said:
I think I'm intrigued enough to want information.
Series for crossover with Ranma: Full Metal Panic.
Premise: Ranma, has had a slightly different childhood. Most of the same adventures until he's 12, but his time at the lab has changed him, which makes him a target for Amalgam (don't want to reveal too much until I can write something substantial).

As per Ranma canon, there will be plenty of people with different agendas interested in him.
 
chronodekar said:
gemmaethanwhitaker said:
Idea/Fic Search: Barring the Ranma Engaged to Nabiki arc, Akane can do no wrong in their relationship, so how about something that plays off this?
What exactly do you mean by 'Akane can do no wrong' ? It's the kind of expression folks have wars over. Do you mean that she behaves like the ideal spouse and supports Ranma without complaining? Or is this supposed to be a story  from Akane's point-of-view where she's the victim and everyone else is out to get her?

-chronodekar
Half the time she's your first option, and the other half the time she does things that should end the relationship right there but somehow don't (Siding with Royga for example)

EDIT: Let me expand upon that, I think something looking at this duality would be interesting
 
Lord Raa said:
nuclear death frog said:
I think I'm intrigued enough to want information.
Series for crossover with Ranma: Full Metal Panic.
I don't know much about that series, but thank you for fulfilling my request.
 

Lord Raa

Exporter of Juice Tins
nuclear death frog said:
Lord Raa said:
nuclear death frog said:
I think I'm intrigued enough to want information.
Series for crossover with Ranma: Full Metal Panic.
I don't know much about that series, but thank you for fulfilling my request.
It's a mangling of the FMP setting, going with Kaname being the MITHRIL agent who's initially assigned to look after Ranma. Mainly because I'm an idiot who wanted to revist Half Metal Panic but couldn't be bothered to do a proper rewrite.

Plus, Ranma/Mao would be good.
 
FMP is good. I have problems with what happened after Hong Kong, but a very good series.

For something Ranma based, I've been kicking around an idea for why Ranma can't marry Akane, and one of them is very interesting: Akane ISN'T a member of the Tendo School, or at least SOUN's Tendo School. Because she's basically been left to train herself she's functionally the master of her OWN school, if not grand-master of her own style
 

PCHeintz72

The Sentient Fanfic Search Engine mk II
What exactly do you mean by 'Akane can do no wrong' ? It's the kind of expression folks have wars over. Do you mean that she behaves like the ideal spouse and supports Ranma without complaining? Or is this supposed to be a story from Akane's point-of-view where she's the victim and everyone else is out to get her?
This... we've seen Akane support his rivals, even side with or at least be sympathetic toward her kidnappers. We've seen her Trick Ranma, and seen what she is like with a powerup...

To say she 'can do no wrong' definitely needs defining.
 
Side with his rivals and him not subsequently tell her to take a hike and compared with things like Ukyo showing up and her NOT getting upset at Ranma (About the worst that can be said about her it THAT case is her allowing her classmates to beat Ranma for no reason, I wonder why she made friends with Ukyo)
 

The Ero-Sennin

The Eyes of Heaven
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Ranma becoming a Whispered is an iffy prospect IMO. If they could just make Ranma something Amalgam could target, then Amalgam would just target the researchers and process that made Ranma into something worth targeting and their information.

Going forward with this: What exactly does Chidori offer that she can protect Ranma with? Or is she just another Tsundere to throw into that meat grinder? Ranma/Mao??? Is it because Mao's hot? There are so many better women in FMP, Mao is just boring by comparison. What about Arm Slaves, or are they going to be kicked to the curb by Charles Atlas Martial Artists? Ranma's going to die against the first sniper that decides he's not worth it.
 

Anonguy

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So.... here's a question, and I want a couple paragraph out of you Raa:

Why?
 

The Ero-Sennin

The Eyes of Heaven
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gemmaethanwhitaker said:
FMP is good. I have problems with what happened after Hong Kong, but a very good series.

For something Ranma based, I've been kicking around an idea for why Ranma can't marry Akane, and one of them is very interesting: Akane ISN'T a member of the Tendo School, or at least SOUN's Tendo School. Because she's basically been left to train herself she's functionally the master of her OWN school, if not grand-master of her own style
So then Ranma becomes engaged to Nabiki and becomes her bitch for life because Kasumi has "I cook" veto power. Since Nabiki takes no shit from anyone, she beats the tar out of Ranma's foot-in-mouth disease without so much as raising a finger at him, and they get married before Shampoo even shows up. Grandmaster Akane, meanwhile, goes off and does Grandmaster shit, like training hundreds and fighting evil.
PCHeintz72 said:
What exactly do you mean by 'Akane can do no wrong' ? It's the kind of expression folks have wars over. Do you mean that she behaves like the ideal spouse and supports Ranma without complaining? Or is this supposed to be a story from Akane's point-of-view where she's the victim and everyone else is out to get her?
This...   we've seen Akane support his rivals, even side with or at least be sympathetic toward her kidnappers.  We've seen her Trick Ranma, and seen what she is like with a powerup...

To say she 'can do no wrong' definitely needs defining.
Wait, which powerup, you mean how she acted when she accidentally ate the Super Soba after being shat on by Shampoo for being weaker than her? Or with the Battle Dougi, which only escalated because Ranma couldn't stand the idea that she was now stronger than him?
 

Anonguy

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Serious question: Do you honestly think RANMA would be all nice if he had gotten the Super Soba? Or the Battle Dougi? Because I have a feeling you're sipping from that fanon well that Ranma is a fucking saint and that shit is weak.
 
@Anonguy exactly who where you responding to there? In case it was me, well Ranma wouldn't have used them until he NEEDED them, at least if he was aware of what they where, if he didn't and used them accidentally unless they induced a personality change he might not even notice.

@Ero not exactly what I had in mind, which would have Ranma figuring it out much later on. What I described is the de facto situation in the manga, your idea would require it to be a de jure one. Further more why would Nabiki accept? Or move things forward that fast without encountering problems?

I think the thing is that Akane, far more so then any other Ranma character, believes cheating is acceptable
 

PCHeintz72

The Sentient Fanfic Search Engine mk II
Serious question: Do you honestly think RANMA would be all nice if he had gotten the Super Soba? Or the Battle Dougi? Because I have a feeling you're sipping from that fanon well that Ranma is a fucking saint and that shit is weak.
Um, I said nothing about Ranma being a saint. In fact, I said nothing about Ranma. I was replying to the comment Akane can do no wrong. As for Ranma, IMHO his single worst moment regarding personal power was how he acted after getting his strength back after the weakness moxibustion.

I think the thing is that Akane, far more so then any other Ranma character, believes cheating is acceptable
Blinks. Ok, how do you come to that conclusion?
 

The Ero-Sennin

The Eyes of Heaven
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gemmaethanwhitaker said:
@Anonguy exactly who where you responding to there? In case it was me, well Ranma wouldn't have used them until he NEEDED them, at least if he was aware of what they where, if he didn't and used them accidentally unless they induced a personality change he might not even notice.

@Ero not exactly what I had in mind, which would have Ranma figuring it out much later on. What I described is the de facto situation in the manga, your idea would require it to be a de jure one. Further more why would Nabiki accept? Or move things forward that fast without encountering problems?

I think the thing is that Akane, far more so then any other Ranma character, believes cheating is acceptable
Nabiki would accept the same way that Akane had to accept: by right of "1, 2, 3, not it". Nabiki also wouldn't face hardship because her character is literally unable to do so in canon, much in the same way that Kasumi remains blithely detached from everyone, Nabiki simply avoids consequences for her actions and doesn't even take splash damage from other people's shit blowing up. In fact, the one time we see Nabiki lose, it not only happens off-panel, but she also gains crucial information from her opponent when she does.

Also, Akane believes cheating is acceptable far more than any other Ranma character, when there are two schools that can be translated as either "Anything Goes" or "Indiscriminate Grappling", and you come to this conclusion from two instances where she accidentally got powerups that other characters had intended to use on themselves? Cute.
 
@PC, that was my interpretation of your post for Ero's benefit

@Ero, while the others used things like that, they didn't use them during fights.
 

AzaggThoth

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Personally, I don't think Akane is the only one to think cheating is acceptable. I think she is naive enough to think that when she does it, it is not cheating. That is a whole other kettle of fish.
 

Lord Raa

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The Ero-Sennin said:
Ranma becoming a Whispered is an iffy prospect IMO. If they could just make Ranma something Amalgam could target, then Amalgam would just target the researchers and process that made Ranma into something worth targeting and their information.

Going forward with this: What exactly does Chidori offer that she can protect Ranma with? Or is she just another Tsundere to throw into that meat grinder? Ranma/Mao??? Is it because Mao's hot? There are so many better women in FMP, Mao is just boring by comparison. What about Arm Slaves, or are they going to be kicked to the curb by Charles Atlas Martial Artists? Ranma's going to die against the first sniper that decides he's not worth it.
Only got a few minutes before I run off to work, so this response will have to be brief until I get home. Ranma will NOT be a Whispered, but his "McGuffin things" are sort of related. 

Again, don't want to reveal too much at this time, lest I lose interest in writing this one.
 
AzaggThoth said:
Personally, I don't think Akane is the only one to think cheating is acceptable. I think she is naive enough to think that when she does it, it is not cheating. That is a whole other kettle of fish.
I don't know if that's being kind to her or not, it requires a massive disconnect with reality, more so then we've seen from her before
 

goldenarms

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The Ero-Sennin said:
gemmaethanwhitaker said:
FMP is good. I have problems with what happened after Hong Kong, but a very good series.

For something Ranma based, I've been kicking around an idea for why Ranma can't marry Akane, and one of them is very interesting: Akane ISN'T a member of the Tendo School, or at least SOUN's Tendo School. Because she's basically been left to train herself she's functionally the master of her OWN school, if not grand-master of her own style
So then Ranma becomes engaged to Nabiki and becomes her bitch for life because Kasumi has "I cook" veto power. Since Nabiki takes no shit from anyone, she beats the tar out of Ranma's foot-in-mouth disease without so much as raising a finger at him, and they get married before Shampoo even shows up. Grandmaster Akane, meanwhile, goes off and does Grandmaster shit, like training hundreds and fighting evil.
I disagree. When it was 2-on-1, Kasumi and Nabiki could gang up on Akane and pre-emptively foist Ranma onto her. In a 1-on-1 situation, Nabiki is faster on the withdrawl than Kasumi, since she has Karma Houdini on her side, plus Kasumi's traditional sensibilities would work against her, making her more likely to pick up the engagement out of duty. And if that fails, she can always twist Soun's arm into giving up on her by telling him she's selling the dojo and ending the martial arts nonsense if she got married to Ranma, which means, if he wants the union to mean anything, he's going to have to beg convince Kasumi anyway.

The Ero-Sennin said:
PCHeintz72 said:
What exactly do you mean by 'Akane can do no wrong' ? It's the kind of expression folks have wars over. Do you mean that she behaves like the ideal spouse and supports Ranma without complaining? Or is this supposed to be a story from Akane's point-of-view where she's the victim and everyone else is out to get her?
This...   we've seen Akane support his rivals, even side with or at least be sympathetic toward her kidnappers.  We've seen her Trick Ranma, and seen what she is like with a powerup...

To say she 'can do no wrong' definitely needs defining.
Wait, which powerup, you mean how she acted when she accidentally ate the Super Soba after being shat on by Shampoo for being weaker than her? Or with the Battle Dougi, which only escalated because Ranma couldn't stand the idea that she was now stronger than him?
It's been a while since I read it, and online sources are pretty crap at giving me the chapters, but Akane did revel in her super-strength for a time, going so far as to snub Ranma when he told her of the negative side-effects of the noodles. Only when she did develop the whiskers on her face did she cave to taking the cure. While she might not have intended to gain superpowers, she did let it go to her head once she had them and could trounce Shampoo.
 

gsteemso

Keeper of the Unknown Thingumawhatsit
Context is everything… While my distant recollection of the Super Soba incident (unusually, I can't seem to remember anything but the anime episode, despite my usual strong preference for the manga) says that Akane did blow off Ranma's poorly-worded warning that she REALLY didn't want to continue on the course of action that she was at that time enjoying, he had shortly prior to that been making humorously childish and inept efforts to regain physical superiority to her, and I'm fairly certain he never actually mentioned why this time was different or just what side-effects she was risking. This is pretty typical Ranma-Akane interaction, really… He can't communicate to save his life, believing instead that people should accept that he usually knows what he is talking about and just do as they are told; while she is fiercely (violently?) self-reliant, and expects to be given sufficient background data to make informed decisions on her own recognizance. Both of them are nearly always disappointed, and usually are greatly offended when their expectations are not met, which with the self-centredness of youth, neither ever handles very gracefully.
 
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