Ranma ½ Ranma x Dog Days

#1
How about a Ranma x dog Days cross over, where say maybe due to a magic mishap Ranma gets teleported to Flonyard when he meets Cinque and the rest of the biscotti people as well as Leo and her people
 

TenguPhule

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#2
princess_asuna said:
How about a Ranma x dog Days cross over, where say maybe due to a magic mishap Ranma gets teleported to Flonyard when he meets Cinque and the rest of the biscotti people as well as Leo and her people
Cat people.

Think this one over a little more.
 

vgz

Active Member
#3
TenguPhule said:
princess_asuna said:
How about a Ranma x dog Days cross over, where say maybe due to a magic mishap Ranma gets teleported to Flonyard when he meets Cinque and the rest of the biscotti people as well as Leo and her people
Cat people.

Think this one over a little more.
Well, it could make an interesting one shot. The reactions to neko-Ranma should be quite humorous.
 

zeebee1

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#4
And he can't even kill them when he goes on a terrifying berserker rage. Still, it wouldn't help him make any firends. And if it follows the cliche of being a demonic technique a lot of them will die.
 

Seed00

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#5
He'll remain in that state permanently, unable to return to full consciousness. Eventually, someone would have to put him out of hid misery.
 

Kerrus

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#6
I doubt it. One, they're people with cat ears, not cats. Ranma's fought a tiger before- it's not feline features that make him go crazy- his phobia is very specific to housecats in their appearance, and related sounds/noises. The cat ears would certainly put him on edge, but drive him into a permanent madness? Yeah, not so much.


Even the 'animal ball mode' thing isn't likely to do it, any more than a cat shaped pillow will drive Ranma into a permanent rage. They'll be off-putting, but not enough for a permanent state.
 

Garahs

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#7
Not only that, but it has to be prolonged close exposure to a cat. Didn't it take several moments of Shampoo latched onto his face for him to shift?
 

Seed00

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#8
Well, he did go around flapping his arms for a while before he effectively snapped. So yeah, it would take a while to take effect. OK, so the appearance is out. How long though before someone decides to experiment and see just what makes him flip. A member of the cast could get curious.
 

TenguPhule

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#9
Kerrus said:
I doubt it. One, they're people with cat ears, not cats. Ranma's fought a tiger before- it's not feline features that make him go crazy- his phobia is very specific to housecats in their appearance, and related sounds/noises. The cat ears would certainly put him on edge, but drive him into a permanent madness? Yeah, not so much.


Even the 'animal ball mode' thing isn't likely to do it, any more than a cat shaped pillow will drive Ranma into a permanent rage. They'll be off-putting, but not enough for a permanent state.
You forgot what happens when people lose the war games in Dog Days.

Poof, Instant Nightmare.
 

ToastedPine

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#10
I remember there's one fic where Ranma deluded himself into thinking that cat that was his constant companion was a randomly selected type of feral beast whenever someone asked him what he was doing with a cat.

From the plot device end, it shouldn't be that hard to use the heroic monument or some kind of magical battle goggles to change the appearance of cat people a bit. If we're going to do this the hard way, Ranma's able to punch the crap out of Bakeneko without turning.

The challenge I think is mostly finding someone who would like to write something like this, supposing we're going with the standard Nerima Crew gets summoned as hero route.

Dog days was fun to watch, but if one were to go canon flavor, it's almost completely sweetness and light along with moderate but frequent fanservice, which is great and all, but lacks inherent ability to stay interesting for too long.

Though... as the base for a fallen version of the world, which could either be the time before the legendary hero conquered the demon lord or some kind of magical demonic creature post apocalypse would be kinda cool.
 

PCHeintz72

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#11
Not a fan of Dog Days... disliked the concept immensely because of them making light of war.

However... should this be written Hopefully, Ranma would not be as easy to believe the lies told to the guy they brought over... or that he will exact revenge upon them for making him fight and lying to him when he does discover they lied...

Because they most certainly did lie to the kid in telling him they could not go back...
 

Smuthunter

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#12
PCHeintz72 said:
Not a fan of Dog Days... disliked the concept immensely because of them making light of war.

However... should this be written Hopefully, Ranma would not be as easy to believe the lies told to the guy they brought over... or that he will exact revenge upon them for making him fight and lying to him when he does discover they lied...

Because they most certainly did lie to the kid in telling him they could not go back...
This entire post is so ridiculous that I actually can't make fun of it.
 

PCHeintz72

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#13
Smuthunter said:
PCHeintz72 said:
Not a fan of Dog Days... disliked the concept immensely because of them making light of war.

However... should this be written Hopefully, Ranma would not be as easy to believe the lies told to the guy they brought over... or that he will exact revenge upon them for making him fight and lying to him when he does discover they lied...

Because they most certainly did lie to the kid in telling him they could not go back...
This entire post is so ridiculous that I actually can't make fun of it.
I admit to watching only about 5 episodes of Dog Days... but they *did* lie to him and deceive him... It was quite clearly shown that they can travel back and forth... they could have returned him right off... but told him they could not.
 

Smuthunter

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#14
They did no such thing. The knowledge regarding how to do so was sufficiently lost that it took Ricotta and a team of librarians most of a month to dig it out of the archives. Nobody lied to Cinque because nobody knew it could be done.

And I wasn't just referring to "they lied to him". You're also taking the idea of war games way too seriously.
 

Garahs

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#15
PCHeintz72 said:
I admit to watching only about 5 episodes of Dog Days... but they *did* lie to him and deceive him... It was quite clearly shown that they can travel back and forth... they could have returned him right off... but told him they could not.
I can understand where you believe that, though I think I only got through 3 episodes before getting pulled away, and there could be some reason why he specifically can't go back even if others can. I'm hesitant to say someone is lying until it's explicitly stated. Maybe it puts a strain on a human's astral signature or something...
 

PCHeintz72

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#16
Smuthunter said:
They did no such thing. The knowledge regarding how to do so was sufficiently lost that it took Ricotta and a team of librarians most of a month to dig it out of the archives. Nobody lied to Cinque because nobody knew it could be done.

And I wasn't just referring to "they lied to him". You're also taking the idea of war games way too seriously.
They did not remotely teleport or summon him such like was done in say Zero no Tsukima... and since that was random (not to mention a messed up summons by Louise and not normal) the fact they could not return him made perfect sense.

No... they actually sent someone to the Earth, whom tracked him down, teleported him without asking, then went back himself... By the time they teleported him, they knew it would work, because it already had to o get him.

He was definitively kidnapped.

The travel is definitively two way or the person sent would not have been able to return.

Since no mention was made of any debilitating effects, and doubly that the fact they had him in the games right away would indicate no debilitating effects and the being whom was sent went through twice also seemed ok we can conclude there is no bad side effects to the travel.

Were that happening to someone more prone to the physical, like Ranma, I would hope he gives someone a good thrashing for lying or deceiving him...
 

daniel_gudman

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#17
PCHeintz72 said:
Not a fan of Dog Days... disliked the concept immensely because of them making light of war.
Thus bugged me too until I realized that "Flon-style War" just meant "Punching Contest with Magical Safety Magic" and then it was a just a lighthearted romp about a bunch of kids hanging out and play-fighting. It's less dangerous than football.

If it's the kidnapping thing, then he was totally fine with it, and the big melodrama at the end of the first season was that Cinque couldn't ever come back after the summoning spell expired, not without preparing some ritual first. I was willing to let it slide.

Well, having said all that,
Ranma in Dog Days would be hilarious, because he's a savage who likes dirty tricks, and all his friends are also psychopaths.

I would definitely write it as the Nerima crew bringing 400% more violence than these cats were really prepared for.

"Summoning people from Nerima" = "Arms race"
 

Smuthunter

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#18
PCHeintz72 said:
They did not remotely teleport or summon him such like was done in say Zero no Tsukima... and since that was random (not to mention a messed up summons by Louise and not normal) the fact they could not return him made perfect sense.

No... they actually sent someone to the Earth, whom tracked him down, teleported him without asking, then went back himself... By the time they teleported him, they knew it would work, because it already had to o get him.

He was definitively kidnapped.

The travel is definitively two way or the person sent would not have been able to return.

Since no mention was made of any debilitating effects, and doubly that the fact they had him in the games right away would indicate no debilitating effects and the being whom was sent went through twice also seemed ok we can conclude there is no bad side effects to the travel.

Were that happening to someone more prone to the physical, like Ranma, I would hope he gives someone a good thrashing for lying or deceiving him...
Except for this one tiny little detail that this interpretation is horrifically out of character for everyone involved. Like, "Kasumi is actually Hannibal Lecter in a wig" out of character. The correct conclusion to draw from this is "oh shit, plot hole".
 

PCHeintz72

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#19
Smuthunter said:
Except for this one tiny little detail that this interpretation is horrifically out of character for everyone involved. Like, "Kasumi is actually Hannibal Lecter in a wig" out of character. The correct conclusion to draw from this is "oh shit, plot hole".
Not really... IIRC it sort of is alluded to in the conversation between the queen and thee servant after the kid is taken away after arriving...

Being a foreign national he is a illegally kidnapped and conscripted soldier fighting under false pretenses since he was lied to.

I left my thoughts from the first couple episodes back from around April 11th 2011 or so in the Anime watching thread.
 

Shadowseraph

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#20
You should probably not bother arguing with pcheintz. He's completely incapable of considering even the silliest and most light hearted things as anything less than deadly serious. Save yourself the trouble of headbutting a brick wall.
 

ToastedPine

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#21
For people from earth summoned via heroic summon, there was no known way back. That isn't to say the animals and animal people from dog days can't go back and forth. I will not theorize why not. Why either case is true. There was no explanation given. It's just how it is.

Later when the way back for Shinku was discovered, it was also believed that the trip would be one way. Shinku himself thought he would not be able to return to dog days world. However, in his heart he believed that he needed to have hope that he could or there would be no chance at all.

There is no explanation why the return trip for heroic summons was thought to be one way.

PC not that I mind or anything, but I notice a common semi-angry bent to most of your fic ideas and interpretations. Which is fine, it's just less average than my predisposition towards WAFF.
 

PCHeintz72

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#22
ToastedPine said:
PC not that I mind or anything, but I notice a common semi-angry bent to most of your fic ideas and interpretations. Which is fine, it's just less average than my predisposition towards WAFF.
I'm actually a bit tired of people getting away with stuff both in various respective canons and in fan fiction... Would actually prefer to read stories where the focus decides to surprise people and deny them their win, their fun, the manipulations, their scenarios, and what not...

Take here... they could have approached people, asked for help, negotiated deals, trade, whatever... it would have been all upfront and in the clear... no they basically shanghai some poor smuck and convince him to fight a war by their stupid rules. Since the series made fun of war on top of it... it was a nearly instant failure for me... due to the mainline plot, even if a handful of the characters were somewhat interesting.

Ranma, Love Hina, NGE, Sailor Moon, Haruhi Suzimiya, Black Lagoon, a whole bunch of others have specific characters I would love to see steamrolled for their actions, instead they get away nearly 100% of the time in canon and fan fiction.
 

Deathwings

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#23
PCHeintz72 said:
I'm actually a bit tired of people getting away with stuff both in various respective canons and in fan fiction... Would actually prefer to read stories where the focus decides to surprise people and deny them their win, their fun, the manipulations, their scenarios, and what not...

Take here... they could have approached people, asked for help, negotiated deals, trade, whatever... it would have been all upfront and in the clear... no they basically shanghai some poor smuck and convince him to fight a war by their stupid rules. Since the series made fun of war on top of it... it was a nearly instant failure for me... due to the mainline plot, even if a handful of the characters were somewhat interesting.

Ranma, Love Hina, NGE, Sailor Moon, Haruhi Suzimiya, Black Lagoon, a whole bunch of others have specific characters I would love to see steamrolled for their actions, instead they get away nearly 100% of the time in canon and fan fiction.
Look like you've got a serious Hate On for Karma Houdinies. Welcome to the club !:dodgy:
 

PCHeintz72

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#24
Deathwings said:
PCHeintz72 said:
I'm actually a bit tired of people getting away with stuff both in various respective canons and in fan fiction... Would actually prefer to read stories where the focus decides to surprise people and deny them their win, their fun, the manipulations, their scenarios, and what not...

Take here... they could have approached people, asked for help, negotiated deals, trade, whatever... it would have been all upfront and in the clear... no they basically shanghai some poor smuck and convince him to fight a war by their stupid rules. Since the series made fun of war on top of it... it was a nearly instant failure for me... due to the mainline plot, even if a handful of the characters were somewhat interesting.

Ranma, Love Hina, NGE, Sailor Moon, Haruhi Suzimiya, Black Lagoon, a whole bunch of others have specific characters I would love to see steamrolled for their actions, instead they get away nearly 100% of the time in canon and fan fiction.
Look like you've got a serious Hate On for Karma Houdinies. Welcome to the club !:dodgy:
What is worse than them getting away with it... a lot of these characters have fans whom defend them... To paraphrase a couple arguments over the years I've heard on a few characters:

'Granny Hina should not be punished, by sending Keitaro to the dorm the way she did it was the best possible thing that could have happened to him.'

'Gendo was not really a bad father, he recognized he could not raise Shinji himself, so sent him elsewhere to be raised.'

'Quite honestly they are being nice about it. Mamoru could tell the people of Earth to GTFO of his planet and the senshi have enough power to make his word law.'

'When your every single thought has the potential to bend reality, when worlds get fucked over just because you're emotional enough without even being conscious or willing about it, then the normal rules don't apply to you. The normal rules can't apply to you.'

And on and on...
 

Smuthunter

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#25
PCHeintz72 said:
Ranma, Love Hina, NGE, Sailor Moon, Haruhi Suzimiya, Black Lagoon, a whole bunch of others have specific characters I would love to see steamrolled for their actions, instead they get away nearly 100% of the time in canon and fan fiction.
Oh good Christ, you're one of those retards who believes in the Crystal Tokyo fanon, aren't you?
 
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