Nasuverse Red Feather

Ray

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#1
Based off my idea of having Akabane Kuroudou from GetBackers find and raise Shirou. It's still unedited, and it's not the full chapter, so chances are it's riddled with mistakes. Rip it apart, people! :sisi:

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Chapter I:

Emiya Kiritsugu stared down at the child lying on the ground only a few meters before him. At his back, the fires generated by the grand finale of the Fourth Holy Grail War blazed, devouring everything they touched. It was clear to him, in his somber thoughts, that this boy, this innocent, was the only-

Kiritsugu was shaken out of his reverie as the ground shook with the force of another explosion, not far away. He approached the child slowly and carefully û the boy was badly wounded, and he-

BOOM!

Kiritsugu had just enough time to push the child away and jump back himself as an explosion ripped the ground he had been standing on apart. As it was, the shockwave sent him flying a good few meters away from the explosion point.

By the time he managed to get up from the ground, a wall of fire had separated him and the boy, and the flames around the area were threatening to trap him as well.

It was hopeless. He had to leave.


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Hours later, when fallen debris had smothered enough of the flames to allow entrance into the smoldering center of Fuyuki City, a lone black-clad figure traveled through the wreckage, the smoke filled air picking up the loose ends of the black suit coat he wore.

Hidden almost entirely, save for a small slit in the wide brimmed black hat that covered it, the manÆs face revealed nothing but a small, somewhat disappointed smile.

Things had taken an unlucky turn for him, you see. After hearing of the event taking place in Fuyuki, he had resolved to travel there, hoping to amuse himself out of his ever-present boredom by witnessing, and hopefully taking part in, the killing going on there. Unfortunately, several nuisances along the way had prevented him from arriving at a proper time, and now the occasion he had come here for was finished and out of his grasp.

He trudged through the ashes for a while, black coat flapping in the wind as he surveyed the wreckage.

After a while, he appeared to finally be satisfied that there was nothing of interest left, and turned to leave.

ThatÆs when he saw him.

A boy. He was just lying on the ground, covered in grime and blood. He wasnÆt moving at all, and there was nothing that seemed to indicate that he was still alive. Had he been anyone else, the man would have simply ignored the corpse and kept on walking, but a childà

Suffering children brought back memories. They embodied the manÆs greatest failure, and, to him, signified the entirety of humanityÆs defects. Someone so innocent was not meant to feel such pain.

Indeed, children were the only people the man had ever refused to kill, and the few that he would help unconditionally when he saw them suffering. The single one that had died because of him was enough.

But this one, though, this one was already dead.

The man turned around, sighing. He couldnÆt waste his time here anymore, and the child was long beyond saving.

Or so he thought.

At the very moment the man turned his back, the child woke up, wide, gold-colored eyes staring pleadingly at the manÆs retreating form.

A single cry was whispered from a throat rendered almost unusable by the smoke.

ôHelp!ö

No one should have heard him. His pleading was simply spoken too low for any normal human to hear at even a short distance.

But Akabane Kuroudou was anything but a normal human.

He approached the child without hesitation, hoisting him up in his arms and preparing himself to run. HeÆd get the child treated, and then heÆd leave him. After all, no matter how much the boy reminded him of his past, he wasnÆt about to take a child with him, rightà?

Akabane looked down at the child, who was tiredly giving him a thankful smile.

Right.

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Fuyuki City, Eight Years Laterà

To say that the area around Homurabara Gakuen wasnÆt one of the most peaceful places in Fuyuki would be a lie, even at midnight, a time of the day when crime around the city was at an all time high. Indeed, it seemed as if nothing could disturb the areaÆs tranquility.

Then the ground started shaking.

After a few seconds a massive armored truck, moving so fast it almost seemed to have appeared out of nowhere, speeded down the street. Its driver, whoever he was, seemed to have no regard for conventional rules of transit as he drove the truck in an almost demented pattern, several times coming close to hitting buildings, parked cars, and even a few lampposts, but always pulling a miraculous feat to avoid impact. Finally, the truck ended its insane ride with a screeching halt, stopping beside the main gate of FuyukiÆs most important high school.

The right door of the cab then flew open, and a teenager jumped out. His appearance was quite formal, consisting of a shirt, black tie, and a long black trenchcoat. What really grabbed attention was his shocking head of red hair and deep golden eyes, which scanned the surroundings attentively.

The boy then turned around and nodded at the driver of the truck, smiling in acknowledgement.

ôThank you, Mr. No-Brakes,ö he said, before closing the door of the cab. The truck immediately sped off, moving every bit as insanely as before.

The boy stared at the truckÆs retreating form for a while, and then turned around, sighing. His father disapproved of this little venture, he knew. But heÆd prove him wrong. HeÆd keep the events of a decade ago from repeating themselves.

The Fifth Holy Grail War had only just started in Fuyuki City, but Akabane Shirou fully intended to end it.

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Ok, not exactly a lot. I'll post another snippet tomorrow. In the meantime, please criticize, flame, and give your opinions on this thing. I'd really appreciate any sort of comment.
 

shout27

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#2
1 thing, how did Shirou survive for hours in critical condition?
 

GenocideHeart

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#3
shout27 said:
1 thing, how did Shirou survive for hours in critical condition?
Anime Main Character Invulnerability?

Seriously, more ludicrous shit happens in F/SN. That's nothing in comparison.
 

SoulGriever13

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#4
Quite. Modifying the starting bits so that Kiritsugu manages to set the kid up with Avalon before getting seperated would work as a decent stopgap measure.

-Griever
 

grant

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#5
Shirou raised by Jackal...... :blink: :blink: . OMG the entire place is going to be turned into a replica of WWII Stalingrad isn't it.
 

ksho

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#6
Here's an idea...since Shirou didn't get Avalon, he won't have the artifact required to summon Saber.

Therefore, why not have Shirou become the master of Caster? Since he was raised by Dr. Jackal...but still has a sense of Justice, his mindset is probably closer to that of his future incarnation before he became an Eirei (probably still a bit naive and less world weary...but is willing to do what needs to be done) He probably won't begrudge Caster for killing her abusive former master.

Having Caster as a servant also means that he'll be able to have her contract Rider using the Book of the False Attendant after he kills Shinji for sexually abusing both Rider and Sakura.
 

shout27

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#7
Here's an idea...since Shirou didn't get Avalon, he won't have the artifact required to summon Saber.
I was under the impression that Avalon only gave him first-dibs on summoning Saber (Rin specifically tried to Summon Saber), and that if he were to participate without it, he'd be back to square-one.
 

ksho

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#8
shout27 said:
Here's an idea...since Shirou didn't get Avalon, he won't have the artifact required to summon Saber.
I was under the impression that Avalon only gave him first-dibs on summoning Saber (Rin specifically tried to Summon Saber), and that if he were to participate without it, he'd be back to square-one.
You seem to be under the impression that there is only one Saber. When in fact, Saber is a class of servant for Epic spirits who fit the mold for being skilled with the sword.

As mentioned in the series & game, when a master summons an epic spirit as his servant...the Epic spirit summoned is someone who's closest to the wavelength of the summoner. (personality/outlook on life) The epic spirit summoned will then be reincarnated into a physical body by the grail as a servant and given a designation/class that suits him/her the best...Saber, Archer, Lancer, Berserker, Rider, Caster & Assasin. (Note: It is entirely possible for an epic spirit to fit more than one class of servant. For example, Heracles(berserker) was elligible for six of the seven classes except Caster.)

Of course, this means that the summoner has no control on which epic spirit is summoned as his/her servant. Increasing the chances that an epic spirit summoned might be a weak one (like rolling a dice). The only way to cheat is if the summoner had a treasured artifact that once belonged to the epic spirit in question to act as a catalyst. In shirou's case, Avalon belonged to Arturia Pendragon...the King arthur of legends who was a Saber class servant.

Rin was trying to summon a Saber class servant (not specifically Arturia). Instead, she got an Archer class servant (Future Shirou). She was under the impression that she didn't have an artifact belonging to a hero from the past and was dutifully rolling the dice...believing the grail would recognize her excellance and give her a Saber class servant.

What she didn't know was that she WAS carrying an artifact belonging to a hero. (or at least, will belong to a hero) The gem left by her father which she used to rescue Shirou when he was killed by Lancer was left next to him when he woke up. Since he didn't know who rescued him (Rin never told him) he treasured the gem which he deduced belonged to him rescuer all his life. (even after his decapitation and subsequant rise as an epic spirit)
 

shout27

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Rin was trying to summon a Saber class servant (not specifically Arturia). Instead, she got an Archer class servant (Future Shirou). She was under the impression that she didn't have an artifact belonging to a hero from the past and was dutifully rolling the dice...believing the grail would recognize her excellance and give her a Saber class servant.
The funny thing is that by your own words she technically succeeded, Shirou though he fits Archer as well is a Swordsman. So if Shirou hadn't participated she would have likely gotten Saber! Shirou. Wanders off in thought. . .
 

Ray

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#10
Here be moar:

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The right door of the cab then flew open, and a teenager jumped out, long black trenchcoat flapping in the wind as he turned around and nodded at the driver of the truck, smiling in acknowledgement.

ôThank you, Mr. No-Brakes,ö he said, before closing the door of the cab. The truck immediately sped off, moving every bit as insanely as before.

The boy stared at the truckÆs retreating form for a while, and then turned around, sighing. His father disapproved of this little venture, he knew. But heÆd prove him wrong. HeÆd keep the events of a decade ago from repeating themselves.

The Fifth Holy Grail War had only just started in Fuyuki City, but Akabane Shirou fully intended to end it.

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Two hours later and half a city away, Tohsaka Rin was pissed.

She had a reason to, mind you. It was not every time that one wasted a chance presented only once every several decades. Still, everything about that mistake could be fixed. That wasnÆt what pissed her off. What did get her angry was the act of screwing things up. SheÆd botched the summoning so badly that not only had she gotten a Servant from a class completely different from what she wanted, but sheÆd also summoned a rebellious Servant to boot, one that was still making snide comments even after having been supposedly brought to heel by a command spell.

Patrol was going to be hell.

ôSo, explain to me, Rin,ö asked her Servant, his tone polite but a tad mocking ôwhy are we still here at night, on the street chasing shadows, when we could easily go back to the protection of your own home? You do know this is leaving us exposed, right

Rin took a deep breath. With conditions as they were, it would have been better to stay home. But stillà

ôItÆs a reconnaissance effort. We canÆt allow- wait, someoneÆs coming! Archer, dematerialize!ö

Her ServantÆs laid-back demeanor changed immediately, as he began to fade into apparent nonexistence just at the nick of time.

Sure enough, someone was coming. Rin could he see him walking down the narrow street: a red-haired boy clad in formal attire û shirt and tie covered by a long black trenchcoat. Overall, he seemed harmlessà until Rin saw his face.

He bore a small, apparently perpetual smile that for some reason sent shivers down RinÆs spine, and his eyes, a strange golden color, werenÆt focused on the road, but rather staring intently at Rin herself, as if analyzing her.

Something, she decided as the boy finally walked close enough for her to hear him talk, was terribly wrong.

ôGood evening,ö he said, the smile in his face still present, ôI am a traveler, and IÆm afraid I donÆt really know my way around the city very well. Would you, perchance, know the way to the Fuyuki Memorial Gardens?ö

Rin blinked, perplexed. The boyà all he wanted was to get to the Memorial Gardens? Noà If that were true, then all of her senses wouldnÆt be screaming danger right now. Still, it would be best if she played along. After all, there was nothing that indicated that the boy wasnÆt a normal human, which meant that there wasnÆt anything he could do to harm her that Rin couldnÆt stop.

Giving back a smile of her own, Rin answered the boyÆs request.

ôYouÆre pretty close, actually. Just keep heading right and then turn left at the next intersection. The entrance to the gardens is impossible to miss.ö

The boy nodded, his smile unwavering.

ôThank you,ö he answered, walking past her without showing any outward signs of wanting to harm her. Rin stiffened, and then it happened.

The moment RinÆs back was exposed to the boy he turned around with near superhuman speed and fired three metal projectiles before Rin could even finish turning to face him. The weapons were moving so quickly that a certain kill was assured the moment they were thrown.

Or at least it would have been assured, had Rin been alone.

In less time than it took to blink, Archer materialized and deftly caught the flying projectiles in mid-air with his left hand, throwing them back at the boy. He jumped back, but this seemed to be more to place distance between himself and the Servant than to dodge the projectiles, which abruptly changed course in mid-air, hiding themselves inside the folds of the boyÆs coat.

Rin couldnÆt believe it.

æHow did heà and were thoseà scalpels!?Æ

ôRin! I will engage the opponent now. I want you to stay behind me and out of the fight at all times. This boy is no Servant, but his skill level is so far above yours itÆs ridiculous.ö

ArcherÆs voice immediately shook Rin out of her thoughts. While she had to admit to hating what was, to her, a horribly botched judgment of her skills, there was no time to argue. SheÆd berate Archer later.

ôAlright, then, but be sure to make this quick. The longer we fight, the more likely itÆll get for a real Master and his Servant to find us and attack!ö

Archer nodded, a bright light flashing as a pair of finely crafted Chinese falchions appeared in his hands.

Their opponent, however, seemed thoroughly unfazed by the display, his smile unwavering.

ôIt is certainly unfortunate that I could not slay your Master before you appeared, Archer-kun,ö he said, ôhowever, this otherwise unlucky event might well give me a chance to obtain amusement, and for that I am always grateful.ö

Before either Master or Servant could respond he was already upon them, jumping into the air and launching a volley of scalpels, which were quickly blocked by Archer as he charged as well. Their opponentÆs speed was incredible, however, and he managed to avoid all of ArcherÆs blows with little difficulty, even going so far as to meet one of them with his right hand, using the scalpels he held as metal claws.

Soon enough, however, both opponents were forced to disengage, each landing on opposite sides of the narrow street. It was then that the differences between both became apparent: whereas Archer was completely unscathed, the boy was struggling to control his breath. The smile on his face, however, had only grown wider.

ôI should have done my homework more properly,ö he said, ôI did not expect Servants to be at such a high level. Stillàö

His body turned into a black blur as he charged at Archer again, the Servant responding with an assault of his own. At the last moment, however, the boy did not meet ArcherÆs attack, rather jumping into the air at the last second and pointing his right finger down at the Servant.

ôThis only spurs me on to fight more seriously! Bloody Stream!ö

Scalpels flew from the right sleeve of his coat at an almost supersonic speed in a continuous stream, forcing Archer to block. Behind her Servant, Rin watched the proceedings worriedly. If Archer was forced to concentrate on blocking the projectiles, then there would be no way for him to focus on the other aspects of the battle, which gave their opponent an advantage.

æIf he were simply able to dodge the volleys it would be much easier, but he canÆt because that would leave me open to be hit! I should- wait a minute, the attackÆs over!?Æ

Sure enough, the volley of scalpels had stopped, but the attacker was nowhere to be found.

æWhere could heàÆ

ôRin, watch out!ö

As if RinÆs very own thoughts were a jinx onto themselves, she found herself staring straight into her opponentÆs smiling face the moment she moved, the scalpels already arcing downwards and about to cut her open.

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An edited piece of the first snippet, and Rin and Shirou's first meeting. I'm having fun writing this, but as always, it sure seems like a helluva lot more text when I look at it in MS Word than when I post it here. Sigh. <_<
 

ksho

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shout27 said:
Rin was trying to summon a Saber class servant (not specifically Arturia). Instead, she got an Archer class servant (Future Shirou). She was under the impression that she didn't have an artifact belonging to a hero from the past and was dutifully rolling the dice...believing the grail would recognize her excellance and give her a Saber class servant.
The funny thing is that by your own words she technically succeeded, Shirou though he fits Archer as well is a Swordsman. So if Shirou hadn't participated she would have likely gotten Saber! Shirou. Wanders off in thought. . .
Except that Rin summoned Archer Shirou before Shirou summoned Saber Arturia.

There's no pre-set conditions on what class of servant appears first. Future Shirou is Archer because that is the class which suits his fighting style best when he was alive and when he is an Epic spirit. If he were a Saber class...he would be a weak or average one at best. As proven by Archer and Saber's fight in the Unlimited Blade Works route of the game, Archer is no match for Saber in a melee sword fight.

And Ray...nice addition, Shirou's fight with Rin and Archer was quite nicely done. Ironically though, the Dr. Jackal fighting style is also quite similar to Archer's canon fighting style as in the game, Archer could also materialize Noble phantasms and shoot them ala Dr. Jackal...his speed when shooting regular arrows using his nameless bow was said to be even faster and more accurate, akin to a machine gun.

Still, it seems a bit off for him to try and kill Rin. Given that he's been shown to have a Dr. Jackal like personality, he has to know that without a Prana source...Archer's abilities will be greatly limited. Unless of course you are making a play at his sense of justice in much the same way that Dr Jackal was with his professionalism when doing a job. (Killing the master is the fastest way to end the war)
 

shout27

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#12
odd, i thought it had been mentioned that the Summoning process had already been going on for more than 3 weeks for Shirou, and that the summoning had only just finished when Lancer nearly killed him a second time. Hey, F1, could you clear that up? I don't have access to the series anymore.
 

Fatuous One

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#13
Rin screwed up her summoning, doing it one hour before/after (I can't remember which) her best point in time. However... she probably would have gotten Archer anyway thanks to the catalyst she was using (her main gem), which had a connection to Shirou. Essentially, what ksho said is right.

I don't recall any points being made that the summoning process was in progress for Shirou. While my memory on the exacts of his summon are foggy at best, I'd guess it was just heat of the moment. *shrug* Not sure though, so I might be completely off.

Besides that... a few points:

ksho said:
There's no pre-set conditions on what class of servant appears first. Future Shirou is Archer because that is the class which suits his fighting style best when he was alive and when he is an Epic spirit. If he were a Saber class...he would be a weak or average one at best. As proven by Archer and Saber's fight in the Unlimited Blade Works route of the game, Archer is no match for Saber in a melee sword fight.
Uhm, no.

EMIYA would never be a Saber, ever. His stats are too low. Saber isn't just a class 'for swordsman', as you put it. There are always statistical requirements for each class (except Berserker), and Saber's are the HIGHEST. Meaning that even if you're an awesome swordswo/man, if your stats suck (like EMIYA's do), you're not going to be able to get summoned as one. Also, there HAS been shown to be some pre-set conditions on who gets summoned first. However, it's not really known what they are. Berserker apparently comes first, however.



ksho said:
What she didn't know was that she WAS carrying an artifact belonging to a hero. (or at least, will belong to a hero) The gem left by her father which she used to rescue Shirou when he was killed by Lancer was left next to him when he woke up. Since he didn't know who rescued him (Rin never told him) he treasured the gem which he deduced belonged to him rescuer all his life. (even after his decapitation and subsequant rise as an epic spirit)
Shirou wasn't killed. That's the whole point on how she saved him. He was still alive, so she could use her magic to heal him. If he were dead, nothing short of the Third Magic would have been able to help him.
 

SoulGriever13

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#14
Fatuous One said:
Shirou wasn't killed. That's the whole point on how she saved him. He was still alive, so she could use her magic to heal him. If he were dead, nothing short of the Third Magic would have been able to help him.
Because people die when they are killed!

:rip1:

Did anyone else had an urge to quote Miracle Max there and then?

-Griever
 

Ray

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#16
So Lancer didn't actually manage to off Shirou, and it's another anime-created misconception? :huh:

Wait a minute, if that's true, then wouldn't Shirou have simply been able to get back on his feet after a few hours without anyone else's help, thanks to Avalon? (Though Rin wouldn't know this and probably still heal him, but what the heck...)
 

Fatuous One

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#17
Ray said:
So Lancer didn't actually manage to off Shirou, and it's another anime-created misconception? :huh:
Yes.

Ray said:
Wait a minute, if that's true, then wouldn't Shirou have simply been able to get back on his feet after a few hours without anyone else's help, thanks to Avalon? (Though Rin wouldn't know this and probably still heal him, but what the heck...)
No, because Avalon wasn't funtioning at that point. Despite what many people seem to think, Shirou hasn't always had that thing working. Even the passive regeneration abilities require a feed of prana to them to work.

Kiritsugu probably shoved a bit of his into it for it to heal Shirou when he was young, and (probably) Rin's healing of him feed some energy into it. Maybe, anyway. It could a have been due to Saber's appearance that it started working, but the former seems more likely for various reasons.
 

Shiakou

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Ray said:
So Lancer didn't actually manage to off Shirou, and it's another anime-created misconception?? :huh:

Wait a minute, if that's true, then wouldn't Shirou have simply been able to get back on his feet after a few hours without anyone else's help, thanks to Avalon? (Though Rin wouldn't know this and probably still heal him, but what the heck...)
Probably, but when someone saves your life, and neither of you realized that you would have survived anyway, it's still something you appreciate. I know I would.

Then again F1 makes a good point.
 

ksho

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#19
EH...this just goes to show the difference between someone who read the translated chinese scripts of the 3 routes as opposed to someone who actually played the game in its entirety. -_-

Thanks for clearing that up F1.
 

Fatuous One

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#20
Uhm... While I HAVE played the game in its entirety, I'm not extremely fluent in the Japanese language, and could barely understand much of it. The only path I've actually played is Fate (which is the only one which has been translated to English). I've read summaries of UBW and HF, but to actually playing the entire game and understanding it completely... no.

However, I've read as much as I can about it. FuyukiWiki (which has been created by pretty much THE guy how knows about the Nasuverse... and knows English, anyway), Beast's Lair to nab various statements from individuals whose info I trust...

Well, I'd like to think I know something about the universe... But if you've read conflicting statements from those scripts, feel free to contradict me. I'm far from infallible, after all.
 

ksho

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#21
Fatuous One said:
Uhm... While I HAVE played the game in its entirety, I'm not extremely fluent in the Japanese language, and could barely understand much of it. The only path I've actually played is Fate (which is the only one which has been translated to English). I've read summaries of UBW and HF, but to actually playing the entire game and understanding it completely... no.

However, I've read as much as I can about it. FuyukiWiki (which has been created by pretty much THE guy how knows about the Nasuverse... and knows English, anyway), Beast's Lair to nab various statements from individuals whose info I trust...

Well, I'd like to think I know something about the universe... But if you've read conflicting statements from those scripts, feel free to contradict me. I'm far from infallible, after all.
Actually...what I do know of the universe was read through the chinese translation scripts of all 3 routes with screenshots. Which is kinda like reading a novel, except that it'll break off into script format whenever they characters start to speak (The format is exactly the same as the english translation of the fate route found here: Fate Route )


I haven't actually played very far through the game since I can't read japanese. Therefore, I know the story and all the different twists...but since I didn't actually play the game, I'm not privy to info such as character stats, short list of Gil's hougu etc. (I usually get auxillary info like that from different sites like fuyuwiki of beast lair)
 

Fatuous One

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#22
Well, FuyukiWiki actually has what weapons that are known to be in Gilgamesh's vault listed (it has 'Gilgamesh has this in his vault' listed at the bottom of them description in the 'Artifact' section, besides the ones listed... you actually aren't aware of which ones he has unless you go by visual of the CGs, and even that's not really definitive), and character stats can be viewed over on the Moonlit World (check the 'Servant Status' in the Fate/stay night section). Some of the Moonlit World and FuyukiWiki info is translated directly from the game(s), and other various sources (like with the misc. character section, which has a summary of what's said in the character materials, and sometimes a direct translation).
 

Lord of Bones

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#23
Deeply sorry about the necro, but given this Shirou's disdain for the Grail War and his need to kill off the Servants and Masters; what would be his reaction if (when?) he summons Saber or any other Servant for that matter? What about Archer and his hatred for Emiya Shirou (who technically doesn't exist)?
 

shout27

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#24
are you kidding? at the rate this is going, Shirou is going to have to fight Heroic Spirit!Ginji Amano (aka The Lightning Lord of Infinity Fortress) whom everyone seems aware of, somewhat unlike Paradox/Canon!Archer at the time he was summoned. . .
 

Lord of Bones

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#25
shout27 said:
are you kidding? at the rate this is going, Shirou is going to have to fight Heroic Spirit!Ginji Amano (aka The Lightning Lord of Infinity Fortress) whom everyone seems aware of, somewhat unlike Paradox/Canon!Archer at the time he was summoned. . .
That doesn't really answer my question...
 
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