Nasuverse Return of the King

[Euphemism]

Hm, what is the policy concerning thread necromancy?

In any case... From the impression I got through playing the translated FSN game, Saber never goes to the Throne of Heroes.

Reason: Saber's contract with the ToH was that she was to become a Servant if she were to gain the Holy Grail. This was made a long time ago, long before she died. Thus, on her deathbed, action is taken to ensure that she gets the opportunity to obtain the Holy Grail, and she is summoned into the future. Some words concerning causality are bandied around. However, because she chooses to destroy the Grail instead of claiming it, her opportunity to gain the Grail is removed. The Grail's power disappears, she gets returned to the past, and when she dies, because the terms of the Contract are never satisfied, she doesn't get claimed by the ToH.

At the very least, this should give Zenithos enough of a loophole to avoid the issue entirely... Meh, is work on this story still ongoing?

 

[ttestagr]

Arturia made the pact while she was dying I believe. She was a hero on her own merits, and made the contract so she could use the Grail to wish for a more suitable king for Britain. After Fate, she would have gone straight to the Throne.

 

[toraneko]

Hell, Arthur (Arturia) was such a big legend that it'd be pretty much impossible for her not to end up in the Throne of Heroes, on virtue of her legend alone.

I suspect there's Robin of Locksley (Archer-type) and Lancelot (another Saber-type) in there as well, just as an example.

edit: Off-topic, I know, but am I the only one who thinks Miyamoto Musashi would be damn near invincible if summoned in the Grail War? I mean, home turf advantage counts for a lot in F/SN, and Musashi was nearly undefeated...

 

[Liam-don]

edit: Off-topic, I know, but am I the only one who thinks Miyamoto Musashi would be damn near invincible if summoned in the Grail War? I mean, home turf advantage counts for a lot in F/SN, and Musashi was nearly undefeated...

I imagine he'd be a something like Koujirou but with better all around stats. However, as long as he doesn't have a broken Noble Phantasm, he'll be eaten alive by the upper-tier servant.

 

[toraneko]

Lessee... wrote the Book of Five Rings, had a 60-0 win-loss record in duels despite wielding a bokken, was proclaimed "Japan's greatest swordsman", was made a legend in his own lifetime and a bigger legend afterward. He was made into a Kensei posthumously.

He'd work especially well as Saber, but also to a lesser extent as Archer, since one of his reputed skills was throwing his wakizashi and using shuriken.

Of note: Kojiro, as Assassin, was weakened several times over. First, by being improperly summoned - a Servant of a Servant. Second, by being not a real person (in the Type-Moon universe, anyway) but rather one cobbled together from various other swordsmen. Third, by vice of how his legend is mostly centered around his humiliating defeat and death at the hands of Musashi. Fourth, by the way that he was summoned in a class not at all suited to his skills.
Yet, Kojiro still managed to give Arturia quite a hard time. Skill alone let him defy the laws of physics, despite having no Noble Phantasms.

Consider that, and then imagine what someone who was not a jobber, rather a superior warrior, could have accomplished.

I mean, seriously - Musashi is more or less considered the pinnacle of swordsmanship in Japan's history. That, plus the "home turf advantage", might just put him over the top.

 

[Liam-don]

Yeah, Musashi isn't a chump. ^_^

But still, what is he supposed to do against Nine Lives, Excalibur, Ea or Bellerophon? Even if he had A in every stats, he'd still get punked by those.

Maybe If he had a powerful Noble Phantasm on his own, he could fight Saber on equal terms, but Musashi never possesed any mythical weapon, so he's at a huge disadvantage.