Ranma ½ Rosario + Ranma

[leeyiankun]

Mythological Gods are all assholes, according to today's standards. Indians, Norwegians, Greeks, etc. The ones that took up the most interest in us, are the ones that did the most damage.

And most demons are Gods by any other names as well, It just that they probably lost the war somewhere, and they got branded from their lost.

Why should Jesus be different? If Christianity got routed in history, Jesus would have taken up Satan's role in some other religion's book.

A great example is probably Ramayana, the great story of Rama, the avatar of Narayana. Where the villain was duped and destined to die from the get go. And everyone that reads it, agrees that the villains was a pantheon of gods worshiped by a loser tribe in that region.

Heck, even the dame that was kidnapped was a weapon of mass destruction incarnated into a kidnap bait. All of this so that Rama had the excuse to purge the villains kingdom, and his sidekick raped/seduced all of the villain's wives.

Some gods are made up by kings as well. I think that one of China's emperor made up a Buddha in his own name to have people worshiped beyond his death. Kings are vain like that.

 

[JTibbs89]

Guys this isnt r/atheism.

Go to reddit is you want to talk about how religion is corrupt/worshiping assholes/etc..

 

[leeyiankun]

Guys this isnt r/atheism.

Go to reddit is you want to talk about how religion is corrupt/worshiping assholes/etc..

lol what?

I'm not dissin' anyone's gods here. Just pointing out that Religion is a flavor, a taste acquired by one self.

By taking that stance, I (and you as well) can totally enjoy BD's fics. And what's this about Atheism?

Let me tell you how I came to my conclusion. I'm a Buddhist, and I've seen (in my region anyway) the inclusion of GODS and local fables into it, and is masked as Buddhism. When your religion preaches about self improvement and how man can best Gods, and the locals tell you that worshiping Gods is totally in. You find yourself asking 'WTF, just happened?'

That's when I researched into how Religion grows belief. And I've came to be totally OK with what BD's doing what should be amount to blaspemy to some.

You see, your God might exists. But the tales are totally going to be mostly FAKED. Only a sliver of truth is left, after centuries pasts, believers often warped those tales to suit their needs.

A few of the new religions/cults in SEA had Islamic god/Muhammad, Christian god/Jesus, and 2 of the local gods in as their primary pantheon. And that's just counting the ones that came out from Taiwan/Japan! Heck, my mom even attends one!

Atheism? What the heck are you talking about! Those guys dismissed Gods! I'm still totally fine with worshiping Shiva after I found out about his past! (Yes, there are shrines erected that dedicated to Indian gods that was built by local Buddhists)

Hey, they may be assholes. But they have P0W3R. That I can dig.

Yes, by my logic, I might find myself worshiping Cthulhu next, but that's life.

 

[Black Dragon74]

A great example is probably Ranma, the great story of Ranma, the avatar of Nerima. Where the villain was duped and destined to die from the get go. And everyone that reads it, agrees that the villains was a pantheon of gods worshipped by a loser high school in that region.

Gentlemen, You have just witnessed the birth of another fanfic chapter.

Yes, by my logic, I might find myself worshiping Cthulhu next, but that's life.

No, that's insanity.
I mean, not just worshipping Cthulhu, but rather insanity would itself be the act of worship expected or required.

As for me, I used to be agnostic, but now I worship the Machine God.

There is no truth in flesh, only betrayal
There is no strength in flesh, only weakness
There is no constancy in flesh, only decay
There is no certainty in flesh... but death

 

[Li Qin]

A great example is probably Ranma, the great story of Ranma, the avatar of Nerima. Where the villain was duped and destined to die from the get go. And everyone that reads it, agrees that the villains was a pantheon of gods worshipped by a loser high school in that region.

Gentlemen, You have just witnessed the birth of another fanfic chapter.

Yes, by my logic, I might find myself worshiping Cthulhu next, but that's life.

No, that's insanity.
I mean, not just worshipping Cthulhu, but rather insanity would itself be the act of worship expected or required.

As for me, I used to be agnostic, but now I worship the Machine God.

There is no truth in flesh, only betrayal
There is no strength in flesh, only weakness
There is no constancy in flesh, only decay
There is no certainty in flesh... but death

So... Which version of the Machine God do you worship? And then which teachings.

Also Magos Biologis says hi.

 

[WizardOne]

Guys this isnt r/atheism.

Go to reddit is you want to talk about how religion is corrupt/worshiping assholes/etc..

No, I'll trashtalk your (and everyone elses) idiotic religeous beliefs as much as I like.

ESPECIALLY in this thread.

And I don't use reddit either, thankfully.

 

[Black Dragon74]

As for me, I used to be agnostic, but now I worship the Machine God.

There is no truth in flesh, only betrayal
There is no strength in flesh, only weakness
There is no constancy in flesh, only decay
There is no certainty in flesh... but death

So... Which version of the Machine God do you worship? And then which teachings.

Also Magos Biologis says hi.

Hi Magos! Love your work with the Orks! Gestalt fields and fungal life cycles! Ha!

As for which version, that's actually a challenge, since I'm Chaos. The beliefs of the Dark Magos aren't very explicit beyond "Tech-heresy? Yeah, I'll have me some of that. Can we cram some daemons in there too?"

No, I'll trashtalk your (and everyone elses) idiotic religeous beliefs as much as I like.

ESPECIALLY in this thread.

Not the Machine God too! You'll upset you computer's machine spirit!

 

[WizardOne]

As for me, I used to be agnostic, but now I worship the Machine God.

There is no truth in flesh, only betrayal
There is no strength in flesh, only weakness
There is no constancy in flesh, only decay
There is no certainty in flesh... but death

So... Which version of the Machine God do you worship? And then which teachings.

Also Magos Biologis says hi.

Hi Magos! Love your work with the Orks! Gestalt fields and fungal life cycles! Ha!

As for which version, that's actually a challenge, since I'm Chaos. The beliefs of the Dark Magos aren't very explicit beyond "Tech-heresy? Yeah, I'll have me some of that. Can we cram some daemons in there too?"

No, I'll trashtalk your (and everyone elses) idiotic religeous beliefs as much as I like.

ESPECIALLY in this thread.

Not the Machine God too! You'll upset you computer's machine spirit![/quote]
My computer doesnt HAVE a spirit you superstitious fuck.

Thats even dumber than the one about the guy who turned water into wine, ruining perfectly good water. Fucking alcoholics.

 

[Black Dragon74]

My computer doesnt HAVE a spirit you superstitious fuck.

Thats even dumber than the one about the guy who turned water into wine, ruining perfectly good water. Fucking alcoholics.

Aww... That hurt my feelings. And probably your computer's too!
Why would you do that?

 

[zane]

Never mind in the bad old bronze and iron ages wine is safer to drink than water. Get cholera and die please. WizardOne you are such a negative vibe I'm starting to really dislike checking this thread for updates.

 

[Himitsu the Hunter]

I just read that snip and I'm not gonna lie. I was dying of laughter at what was in all practicality a Prince Phil moment.

PRAYER BEAM!


The entire combo just killed me.

 

[Black Dragon74]

I just read that snip and I'm not gonna lie. I was dying of laughter at what was in all practicality a Prince Phil moment.

PRAYER BEAM!


The entire combo just killed me.

Prince Phillionelle is clearly the Jesus of the Slayers world.
I mean, the man assaulted Zanafar unarmed and unspelled and lived. That's like three miracles at once.

 

[WizardOne]

Never mind in the bad old bronze and iron ages wine is safer to drink than water. Get cholera and die please. WizardOne you are such a negative vibe I'm starting to really dislike checking this thread for updates.

Make request for someone to die, call them a negative influence.

Irony is great.

I'm perfectly aware of the dangers of unpurified water in the early AD's,
The point is, Jesus. He could have just purified the water, but nooo. Alcohol everywhere. Disgusting drink.

Now go eat some falaffles or something.

 

[Black Dragon74]

I'm perfectly aware of the dangers of unpurified water in the early AD's,
The point is, Jesus. He could have just purified the water, but nooo. Alcohol everywhere. Disgusting drink.

How do you know?
It's not like he could do literally ANYTHING. He probably woke up in the morning and chose his miracles like any other cleric. "Purify Water" just wasn't available for his religion of choice. Maybe if he would have chosen Evangelism, but that didn't exist while he did (ironic).

 

[WizardOne]

He wasnt a cleric, work on your lore checks dude, he was a demi-god.

Demi-god that can cause a complete transmutation of two completely disparate objects, can't purify water?

Nay I say. NAY.

 

[Black Dragon74]

He wasnt a cleric, work on your lore checks dude, he was a demi-god.

Demi-god that can cause a complete transmutation of two completely disparate objects, can't purify water?

Nay I say. NAY.

Demi-god is a species (kind of) not a class choice. Jesus was a prophet and preacher before he was the son of the Allmighty (maybe).
Besides, knowing one sort of transmutation does not imply the ability to instantly or easily kill parasites and impurities that would have made it dangerous to consume water. You only have so many spell slots, and nobody knows what level he was. To criticise him for not having the BEST miracle possible for a situation is just petty, Wiz.

 

[Dumbledork]

He wasnt a cleric, work on your lore checks dude, he was a demi-god.

Demi-god that can cause a complete transmutation of two completely disparate objects, can't purify water?

Nay I say. NAY.

Demi-god is a species (kind of) not a class choice. Jesus was a prophet and preacher before he was the son of the Allmighty (maybe).
Besides, knowing one sort of transmutation does not imply the ability to instantly or easily kill parasites and impurities that would have made it dangerous to consume water. You only have so many spell slots, and nobody knows what level he was. To criticise him for not having the BEST miracle possible for a situation is just petty, Wiz.

Didn't he resurrect someone? I think I also remember that he conjured up fish and bread from nowhere.

 

[Black Dragon74]

Didn't he resurrect someone? I think I also remember that he conjured up fish and bread from nowhere.

I think he was the one resurrected, though canon material suggests this was divine intervention from a meddling deity rather than his own power. Summoning food is a low-level spell. He did cure a blind person, which is a bigger deal, but it still wouldn't imply the ability to purify water.

Look, all I'm saying is that water into wine was probably the best he could do. It doesn't mean he's an alcoholic. I'm sure he could have summoned a pillar of flame to torch people's houses too, which is what I would've done in that situation, so personally I admire his restraint.

 

[Dumbledork]

Didn't he resurrect someone? I think I also remember that he conjured up fish and bread from nowhere.

I think he was the one resurrected, though canon material suggests this was divine intervention from a meddling deity rather than his own power. Summoning food is a low-level spell. He did cure a blind person, which is a bigger deal, but it still wouldn't imply the ability to purify water.

Look, all I'm saying is that water into wine was probably the best he could do. It doesn't mean he's an alcoholic. I'm sure he could have summoned a pillar of flame to torch people's houses too, which is what I would've done in that situation, so personally I admire his restraint.

He could also walk on water.

So, would you say that Moses was more powerful? After all, he split the Red Sea and drowned the pharaoh and the complte Egyptian army.

Here's also a link to the miracles realised by Jesus

<a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miracles_of_Jesus' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miracles_of_Jesus</a>

 

[Shadowseraph]

Didn't he resurrect someone? I think I also remember that he conjured up fish and bread from nowhere.

I think he was the one resurrected, though canon material suggests this was divine intervention from a meddling deity rather than his own power. Summoning food is a low-level spell. He did cure a blind person, which is a bigger deal, but it still wouldn't imply the ability to purify water.

Look, all I'm saying is that water into wine was probably the best he could do. It doesn't mean he's an alcoholic. I'm sure he could have summoned a pillar of flame to torch people's houses too, which is what I would've done in that situation, so personally I admire his restraint.

He could also walk on water.

So, would you say that Moses was more powerful? After all, he split the Red Sea and drowned the pharaoh and the complte Egyptian army.

Here's also a link to the miracles realised by Jesus

<a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miracles_of_Jesus' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miracles_of_Jesus</a>

Nah Moses was a minmaxer, traded in his sense of direction for increased spellpower. Also, he was using an older ruleset, way more powergaming possibilities in that edition.

 

[Black Dragon74]

Look, it doesn't matter which prophet was higher level; Jesus clearly put extra points into Charisma and the Diplomacy skill than was necessary for his build anyway. I'm just trying to establish that Jesus wasn't necessarily an alcoholic, which is something I never imagined I'd actually have to type ever.

But here we are.

 

[shinzero01]

Besides, who knows what counted for wine back then. It could've been our equivalent of Hawaiian Punch. Maybe it was just water laced with LSD.
.
...actually hallucinogenics would make a lot of that make more sense.
or Illusionist Chris Angel being the first person to utilize time travel.
But probably the LSD.

 

[Black Dragon74]

Besides, who knows what counted for wine back then. It could've been our equivalent of Hawaiian Punch. Maybe it was just water laced with LSD.
.
...actually hallucinogenics would make a lot of that make more sense.
or Illusionist Chris Angel being the first person to utilize time travel.
But probably the LSD.

Well, I don't know if ancient wine differs considerably from modern wine, but Jesus' Magic Wine probably wasn't like the normal kind. I mean, its vintage would be measured in hours, there would be no barelling, and I doubt there was even a cork, which I guess affects the flavor somehow (my Dad is a wino, so I hear a lot of ridiculous-sounding tidbits like that).
It might have even been non-alcoholic! Jesus is typically not considered a party animal, you know.

 

[bissek]

As for me, I used to be agnostic, but now I worship the Machine God.

There is no truth in flesh, only betrayal
There is no strength in flesh, only weakness
There is no constancy in flesh, only decay
There is no certainty in flesh... but death

So... Which version of the Machine God do you worship? And then which teachings.

Also Magos Biologis says hi.

Hi Magos! Love your work with the Orks! Gestalt fields and fungal life cycles! Ha!

As for which version, that's actually a challenge, since I'm Chaos. The beliefs of the Dark Magos aren't very explicit beyond "Tech-heresy? Yeah, I'll have me some of that. Can we cram some daemons in there too?"

No, I'll trashtalk your (and everyone elses) idiotic religeous beliefs as much as I like.

ESPECIALLY in this thread.

Not the Machine God too! You'll upset you computer's machine spirit!

How about the Heresy of Turing, which holds that if a machine in a known state given a known command always has a known, predictable response, then said machine cannot possibly have a Machine Spirit?

Or the writings of Asimov in "Segregationalist", in which he stated that a man seeking to be more like a machine (Or a machine seeking to be more like a man) is not seeking self-improvement, but simply rejecting one's self by turning into something alien?

Isn't it logical to suppose an individual would be too proud of his structure and identity to want to dilute it with something alien? Would he want mongrelization?

... I believe in being what one is. I wouldn't change a bit of my own structure for any reason. If some of it absolutely required replacement, I would have that replacement as close to the original in nature as could possibly be managed. I am myself; well pleased to be myself, and would not be anything else.

Note that this statement was made by a robot who found humans seeking to be more mechanical (And robots seeking to be more organic) to be offensive.

 

[Hawk]

The problem with just purifying the water instead of transmuting to wine is that no one would know that the water was now safe, there would be no difference in appearance after all.